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Sun 08/07/01 at 15:25
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OK. Just as I suspected you are reading this probably just like you listen to the likes of Eminem, Dr. Dre and other rappers and singers that use explicit lyrics in their songs. But why? After all like the albums with these lyrics I put a parental advisory sticker on my post!!

My point is what is the point in them. I can go into a shop and buy an album with the sticker parental advisory on it without any hassle. Got Eminems latest album the Marshall Mathers LP no problem. At the age of 11 I even grabbed a copy of Calafornia Love which apparently had explicit lyrics, and some Coolio songs at about 10. So what's the point if I can listen to a certain four letter word beginning with "f" in a song at the age of 11 but couldnt hear it in a 15 certificate film.

If those people in the age restrictions office are heavily monitoring the things we are watch on television and in the cinema making sure we are "protected" from offensive material why aren't they doing the same thing for the music industry instead of turning a blind eye to it.

Yes I do listen to parental advisory lyrics. I can handle them. They don't make me evil, make me do crazy things, effect me mentally but for some people I'm sure it can affect them deeply.

Many people can handle the odd four letter offensive word as it is part of our everyday language and for most of us it doesn't offend us. Yet people are being restricted from hearing these words in films. Yet far worse are some of the lyrics in music. Kim for example by Eminem even I was shocked by. It was a very disturbing song about Eminem violently killing his wife in front of his daughter. If this was happening in a film it would certainly gain a 15 certificate or even an 18.

Just because we can't see these violent things in music doesn't mean they can still effect people. If we are going to protect certain individuals from being offended in the film industry we certainly need to reassess the protection of the music industry. Children are growing up idolising rap stars and other singers and are being exposed to their minds and feelings and some are growing up in the same way. Certainly the form of age certificates used in the film industry does also need to be applied to the music industry??
Sun 08/07/01 at 20:08
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Ah but you forget that if they put legally binding age ratings on music then the sales would die ! Where I work I'd say the average age of anyone buying parental guidance cds is about 10. The fact that swearing is commonplace now and the fact that swearing does not offend us all the time is simply a sign of the times. Sure it is the year 2001 but have we really come so far ? Technologically; yeah we're looking to the future, Socially; Well if I were the Home Secretary I'd be looking at increasing the Police force massively for the future because we're gonna need it.

A common defensive argument as to why music should not be rated is that they are only songs, not visual material. but books are visual like a film are they ? And books are never censored, right ? Wrong.....many are, and with good reason too. A book was part of an idea that led to the greatest conflict in known history Music is words, it gives people ideas because a song we ourselves like can inspire us or make us feel certain emotions. In America law enforcement agencies occasionally use types of music during sieges as they did in Waco years ago. Why ? Music can affect people in certain ways. If you're 10 years old and you hear swear words then you're going to use them, and if an artist you like hates certain groups of people then many wil hat those groups without knowing why. Many of Eminem's younger fans seem similar to him in dress and mindset and how they act, which is fine to a certain limit but where is that limit ?

Anyone who keeps tabs on the news in America will know that there is a growing pressure on Congress to bring about new laws to legally rate music after several ex-music industry employess admitted that companies target younger age groups with the styles of music which get "parental guidance" stickers plastered all over them. Over the past years a number of teenage killers have blamed artists like Korn and Eminem for how they acted/what they did. I don't agree with that but a lot of people miss the point......those committing the crimes believe in the ideas the music idealises. Those of 18+ are adults so they can make their own mind up about what they wish to listen to. Most of us at this age know what is right and what is wrong, we know swearing every other word is not going to get us that high paying job we want.

We live in a democracy where we have the right to choose what we want to do, listen to, read e.t.c but I think we also have the responsibility to protect our younger generations whether they think they need to be protected or not.

I'm not against this kind of music, admittedly I don't like it but just because I don't like it doesn't mean I think no one should listen to it. I do think those listening to it should be old enough to not be adversely influenced by it....unless we want a culture of hate, fear and verbal abuse.........
Sun 08/07/01 at 15:31
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There are good points there. It's probably just because if there were no stickers people would complain. It's probably just to keep people quiet.
Sun 08/07/01 at 15:25
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OK. Just as I suspected you are reading this probably just like you listen to the likes of Eminem, Dr. Dre and other rappers and singers that use explicit lyrics in their songs. But why? After all like the albums with these lyrics I put a parental advisory sticker on my post!!

My point is what is the point in them. I can go into a shop and buy an album with the sticker parental advisory on it without any hassle. Got Eminems latest album the Marshall Mathers LP no problem. At the age of 11 I even grabbed a copy of Calafornia Love which apparently had explicit lyrics, and some Coolio songs at about 10. So what's the point if I can listen to a certain four letter word beginning with "f" in a song at the age of 11 but couldnt hear it in a 15 certificate film.

If those people in the age restrictions office are heavily monitoring the things we are watch on television and in the cinema making sure we are "protected" from offensive material why aren't they doing the same thing for the music industry instead of turning a blind eye to it.

Yes I do listen to parental advisory lyrics. I can handle them. They don't make me evil, make me do crazy things, effect me mentally but for some people I'm sure it can affect them deeply.

Many people can handle the odd four letter offensive word as it is part of our everyday language and for most of us it doesn't offend us. Yet people are being restricted from hearing these words in films. Yet far worse are some of the lyrics in music. Kim for example by Eminem even I was shocked by. It was a very disturbing song about Eminem violently killing his wife in front of his daughter. If this was happening in a film it would certainly gain a 15 certificate or even an 18.

Just because we can't see these violent things in music doesn't mean they can still effect people. If we are going to protect certain individuals from being offended in the film industry we certainly need to reassess the protection of the music industry. Children are growing up idolising rap stars and other singers and are being exposed to their minds and feelings and some are growing up in the same way. Certainly the form of age certificates used in the film industry does also need to be applied to the music industry??

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