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It looks like Microsoft are to get the jump ahead of everyone, and in particular Nintendo, in the next generation console war.
Developers have been primed by Microsoft to have software ready for the "X-Box 2" (name set to change as Microsoft don't want to seem inferior to the PS3) by Christmas 2005. It has been reported that several developers would be miffed if the system was not ready by then. The X-box 2 is set to have no hard drive and no backwards compatability and this is believed to avoid a loss on the system like last time. Traditionally the first console out is the weakest and it looks like this can be the case, with Sony once again developing new architecture, Microsoft have left it to ATI and IBM to provide the guts of the system.
These are the exact companies that are creating the guts for Nintendo's upcoming "Revolution" console, and these companies are given an extra year to develop more powerful technology for Nintendo's machine. Despite Nintendo claiming to have "Revolution" ready by the release of the rival system it is looking unlikely they will match the PS3. Zelda is set to try and counteract the "X-Box 2" as that will almost certainly have a Christmas 2005 release as the Gamecube's swan song. A mid to late 2006 launch seems likely and the console is touted by Nintendo head "Iwata" as a "revolution" in the way we play games. He declared the system may incorperate ideas from the highly original DS system showcased at this years E3 that included wireless online modes, touch screen, duel screens and new forms of game storage. Nintendo have declared that Revolution will be backwards compatible with the Gamecube.
With Microsoft preparing a weak console it is up to Sony to provide the strong one. Sony in partnership with IBM is developing the uber-powerful follow up to the PS2's "emotion Engine", CELL. Although it may have similar development issues and what CELL can do is widely exageratted it does seem like a monster is in the works. But the PS2 for a change maybe set to launch its system last. DVD's destroyed the DivX system because the millions of game players could use the PS2 to play their DVD's. Now Sony have developed a high-definiton DVD system, Blu-Ray. But this has a formidable hurdle to overcome, the Toshiba and NEC backed "HD-DVD". How to defeat it? Include Blu-Ray into the ever increasing in power PS3.
For the first time ever Sony maybe last to the table, but with the most powerful system to offer. Nintendo are unsure on how powerful "revolution" maybe. Sony is going for power, Microsoft for early release and Nintendo is doing what the hell it wants to do. And that scares them more than anything.
Dringo.
Developers have been primed by Microsoft to have software ready for the "X-Box 2" (name set to change as Microsoft don't want to seem inferior to the PS3) by Christmas 2005. It has been reported that several developers would be miffed if the system was not ready by then. The X-box 2 is set to have no hard drive and no backwards compatability and this is believed to avoid a loss on the system like last time. Traditionally the first console out is the weakest and it looks like this can be the case, with Sony once again developing new architecture, Microsoft have left it to ATI and IBM to provide the guts of the system.
These are the exact companies that are creating the guts for Nintendo's upcoming "Revolution" console, and these companies are given an extra year to develop more powerful technology for Nintendo's machine. Despite Nintendo claiming to have "Revolution" ready by the release of the rival system it is looking unlikely they will match the PS3. Zelda is set to try and counteract the "X-Box 2" as that will almost certainly have a Christmas 2005 release as the Gamecube's swan song. A mid to late 2006 launch seems likely and the console is touted by Nintendo head "Iwata" as a "revolution" in the way we play games. He declared the system may incorperate ideas from the highly original DS system showcased at this years E3 that included wireless online modes, touch screen, duel screens and new forms of game storage. Nintendo have declared that Revolution will be backwards compatible with the Gamecube.
With Microsoft preparing a weak console it is up to Sony to provide the strong one. Sony in partnership with IBM is developing the uber-powerful follow up to the PS2's "emotion Engine", CELL. Although it may have similar development issues and what CELL can do is widely exageratted it does seem like a monster is in the works. But the PS2 for a change maybe set to launch its system last. DVD's destroyed the DivX system because the millions of game players could use the PS2 to play their DVD's. Now Sony have developed a high-definiton DVD system, Blu-Ray. But this has a formidable hurdle to overcome, the Toshiba and NEC backed "HD-DVD". How to defeat it? Include Blu-Ray into the ever increasing in power PS3.
For the first time ever Sony maybe last to the table, but with the most powerful system to offer. Nintendo are unsure on how powerful "revolution" maybe. Sony is going for power, Microsoft for early release and Nintendo is doing what the hell it wants to do. And that scares them more than anything.
Dringo.
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But, Dringo, look just how quickly people gave up with Nintendo with the 64 and GC after the SNES? It could happen with the Revolution, under the correct circumstances, easily, and the Playstation could become a thing of the past.
Could. Nit will. Could.
Could. Nit will. Could.
As it has been already noted I took these points from an IGN article and expanded them and created my own post.
You think Sony is worried about the competiton? The Playstation franchise may take a knock but it needs a MASSIVE knock if Microsoft and Nintendo are to overtake it.
DVD is Sony's biggest earner at the moment, high definition DVD system Blu-Ray is Sony's next mega release and if Sony want to nail the coffin shut on the rival HD-DVD then it is logical to bundle it with the PS3.
In which case we are to recieve the PS3 in 2007. Of course it is possible they'll be two versions with a PS3 advanced released in 2007, but this will "help" Blu-Ray as opposed to single handidly selling it like all consoles coming with it a standard.
The PS3 will be a giant machine, an absolute monster of power and abilities.... it doesn't matter if its released next year or 2008... Joe gamer cannot afford to go without it.
It does though, give Microsoft and Nintendo a window of oppertunity.
Dringo.
You think Sony is worried about the competiton? The Playstation franchise may take a knock but it needs a MASSIVE knock if Microsoft and Nintendo are to overtake it.
DVD is Sony's biggest earner at the moment, high definition DVD system Blu-Ray is Sony's next mega release and if Sony want to nail the coffin shut on the rival HD-DVD then it is logical to bundle it with the PS3.
In which case we are to recieve the PS3 in 2007. Of course it is possible they'll be two versions with a PS3 advanced released in 2007, but this will "help" Blu-Ray as opposed to single handidly selling it like all consoles coming with it a standard.
The PS3 will be a giant machine, an absolute monster of power and abilities.... it doesn't matter if its released next year or 2008... Joe gamer cannot afford to go without it.
It does though, give Microsoft and Nintendo a window of oppertunity.
Dringo.
Sony WERE saying about consoles having a cycle of 7 years, nowadays, so who knows?
PS3 in 2007? How stupid do you think Sony are? You think they'll leave the PS2 on the market for another 3 years? No way my friend. It'll be unveiled in May next year at E3 (or slightly before), will be released in March or so in 2006 and hit UK stores in around October/November 2006.
Brent Spiner wrote:
> Very true - Is the PS3 going to be backwards compatable with PS2
> software?
I'll only buy a PS3 if it's backwards compatable, and has a good GTA game.
> Very true - Is the PS3 going to be backwards compatable with PS2
> software?
I'll only buy a PS3 if it's backwards compatable, and has a good GTA game.
PsY©Ho FoX 1987 wrote:
> This may we well and true and all, but what about the costs on release.
Obviously this isn't confirmed, but I have the prices as:
X-Box2 - £200
PS3 - £150
Nintendo Next - £150
Advanced PS3 - £300
Of course those prices will most likely change.
> This may we well and true and all, but what about the costs on release.
Obviously this isn't confirmed, but I have the prices as:
X-Box2 - £200
PS3 - £150
Nintendo Next - £150
Advanced PS3 - £300
Of course those prices will most likely change.
Mattributé wrote:
> If M$ don't get a 'cool' exlusive game out straight away, the lead
> could come to naught.
I can almost guarantee Halo3 will be the big launch title. I like Halo, but it's way over-rated so I'm hoping for something original.
> If M$ don't get a 'cool' exlusive game out straight away, the lead
> could come to naught.
I can almost guarantee Halo3 will be the big launch title. I like Halo, but it's way over-rated so I'm hoping for something original.
Looks like MS wanted to re-release the Gamecube.
I don't understand the lack of hardrive though. That's really important this time round, especially with the focus on online play.
Perhaps they're trying to win the market with cheap games, and therefore don't want to make so much loss on the console.
As to Nintendo, I can't imagine them pulling anything really THAT special out of the bag, but they might surprise me.
And Sony?
It's barely a game console anymore from what I've heard! :-D
I don't understand the lack of hardrive though. That's really important this time round, especially with the focus on online play.
Perhaps they're trying to win the market with cheap games, and therefore don't want to make so much loss on the console.
As to Nintendo, I can't imagine them pulling anything really THAT special out of the bag, but they might surprise me.
And Sony?
It's barely a game console anymore from what I've heard! :-D
Sorry psycho fox, I mean't a PC monitor.
Brent Spiner wrote:
> Sony could be making a mistake - if power is everything, why did the
> N64 fail (in comparison with Playstation)
Because PSX was better marketted and had a headstart, while the N64 was expensive, hard to develop for, and had huge holes in the release schedule.
> why did Dreamcast fail (in comparison with Playstation)
The DC was released so late in that generation it never had a chance really. It was kind of the 'inbetween' console of the N64/PSX and the PS2/GC/Xbox. And don't forget Sega had already had one console beaten by the PSX (Saturn), so had probably lost a fair bit of credibility there.
> why did Game Gear fail (in comparison with Game Boy)
Erm... Don't know... batteries ran out too fast... :S
Or possibly cause the GG was barely portable (okay, the original GB wasn't THAT portable either, but better)
> and why is the Xbox still fighting for second place with GameCube against the weaker machine?
Because, as you said, power isn't everything! Despite the hype about the most powerful hardware, if it's too expensive, an utter b**ch to develop for (and hence lacks quality titles) or simply isn't marketted effectively, people won't buy it...
> Sony could be making a mistake - if power is everything, why did the
> N64 fail (in comparison with Playstation)
Because PSX was better marketted and had a headstart, while the N64 was expensive, hard to develop for, and had huge holes in the release schedule.
> why did Dreamcast fail (in comparison with Playstation)
The DC was released so late in that generation it never had a chance really. It was kind of the 'inbetween' console of the N64/PSX and the PS2/GC/Xbox. And don't forget Sega had already had one console beaten by the PSX (Saturn), so had probably lost a fair bit of credibility there.
> why did Game Gear fail (in comparison with Game Boy)
Erm... Don't know... batteries ran out too fast... :S
Or possibly cause the GG was barely portable (okay, the original GB wasn't THAT portable either, but better)
> and why is the Xbox still fighting for second place with GameCube against the weaker machine?
Because, as you said, power isn't everything! Despite the hype about the most powerful hardware, if it's too expensive, an utter b**ch to develop for (and hence lacks quality titles) or simply isn't marketted effectively, people won't buy it...
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