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Rather good, and out on Friday.
Thrashes Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for gameplay; 10,000+ items to collect; 5 playable classes (male or female, so 10 different characters, all fully customisable); and of course up to 4 player co-op, offline AND online.
I haven't tested it online yet because although the servers are up I appear to be one of the few lucky persons who got a freebie copy a week early (ta, Sony), so there's never anybody on when I look for games.
Tips:
If you go Barbarian you'll be able to carry much more before you have to nip back to the shop to sell your loot.
You can save your game twice, import one character to a new game, drop items on the ground, pick them up with another imported character and thereby dupe items to your heart's content and never be short of gold, same with items. In a way this is a good thing because you won't see a bunch of people using action replay to cheat their way to the best items just so they can flog them on eBay. Not something I'd do personally because it takes all the fun out of finding stuff yourself.
Best Solo Class? Dark Elf ShadowKnight I feel, mine's level 20 and in Act IV of V without too many problems. He did get stuck at the end of Act 1 trying to defeat the boss Spider at level 10, but I just started a new game, imported my level 10 Delf, got him to level 12 by the time he reached the spider second time around and kicked his butt. Plus at level 15 he gets a Skeleton buddy to fight along side him, not to mention Harm Touch (one shot kill baby yeah!) at level 25.
Save your weapon crafting gems! (Unless you're a duper of course). Lightning ones look really cool when you add them to a level 13 weapon plus they slow down whatever you hit :)
Boss Tactics: Most bosses you can just run about in circles to get up close and behind them then whack them when they're facing the other way, but make sure you've got at least one ranged attack spell or a bow to weaken the bigger bosses first
Finally, be careful how you level your skills. They max out at 20 points, you only get something like 160 skillpoints up to level 50, so you can be a jack of all trades and level them all a little, or concentrate on just a few skills and specialise (I think you can max out a total of 8, not sure on that yet, but I'm working on it).
10/10 Enjoy.
Thrashes Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance for gameplay; 10,000+ items to collect; 5 playable classes (male or female, so 10 different characters, all fully customisable); and of course up to 4 player co-op, offline AND online.
I haven't tested it online yet because although the servers are up I appear to be one of the few lucky persons who got a freebie copy a week early (ta, Sony), so there's never anybody on when I look for games.
Tips:
If you go Barbarian you'll be able to carry much more before you have to nip back to the shop to sell your loot.
You can save your game twice, import one character to a new game, drop items on the ground, pick them up with another imported character and thereby dupe items to your heart's content and never be short of gold, same with items. In a way this is a good thing because you won't see a bunch of people using action replay to cheat their way to the best items just so they can flog them on eBay. Not something I'd do personally because it takes all the fun out of finding stuff yourself.
Best Solo Class? Dark Elf ShadowKnight I feel, mine's level 20 and in Act IV of V without too many problems. He did get stuck at the end of Act 1 trying to defeat the boss Spider at level 10, but I just started a new game, imported my level 10 Delf, got him to level 12 by the time he reached the spider second time around and kicked his butt. Plus at level 15 he gets a Skeleton buddy to fight along side him, not to mention Harm Touch (one shot kill baby yeah!) at level 25.
Save your weapon crafting gems! (Unless you're a duper of course). Lightning ones look really cool when you add them to a level 13 weapon plus they slow down whatever you hit :)
Boss Tactics: Most bosses you can just run about in circles to get up close and behind them then whack them when they're facing the other way, but make sure you've got at least one ranged attack spell or a bow to weaken the bigger bosses first
Finally, be careful how you level your skills. They max out at 20 points, you only get something like 160 skillpoints up to level 50, so you can be a jack of all trades and level them all a little, or concentrate on just a few skills and specialise (I think you can max out a total of 8, not sure on that yet, but I'm working on it).
10/10 Enjoy.
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Helios wrote:
> Anyway, is it like Dark Alliance Co-op when playing online i.e.
> competing for items dropped by enemies?
Yup, but so far everyone I've grouped with and killed bosses with has said "OK, so you're a Dark Elf, lets see what we got..." and then they chuck all the good Dark Elf stuff that I can use on the ground. Unless they're a Dark Elf themselves of course, in which case we don't worry about it and agree that I can get the drop from the next boss etc.
Pretty friendly online. The system is if it drops anyone in the group can pick it up, but so far everyone doesn't seem greedy, which is neat.
> Anyway, is it like Dark Alliance Co-op when playing online i.e.
> competing for items dropped by enemies?
Yup, but so far everyone I've grouped with and killed bosses with has said "OK, so you're a Dark Elf, lets see what we got..." and then they chuck all the good Dark Elf stuff that I can use on the ground. Unless they're a Dark Elf themselves of course, in which case we don't worry about it and agree that I can get the drop from the next boss etc.
Pretty friendly online. The system is if it drops anyone in the group can pick it up, but so far everyone doesn't seem greedy, which is neat.
Smashamof wrote:
> Is it just me or do the bad guys drop tons of items that you have to
> recall lots, because that is what we were doing a lot of! Selling.
Yup, but don't worry, once you get to lvl 15+ or so you'll have good equipment and then you won't hang about picking up EVERYTHING that drops and having to go back to the shop every 5 minutes :)
E.G. all your armour is at like AC 50 except your boots? Just pick up boots till you get a nice pair. Also try to just pick up the yellow coloured 'unique' items, boss mobs drop these at the end of acts (the sub bosses you meet on the way there whose names are displayed at the bottom of the screen complete with health bars don't always drop, but the big ones do).
Also, for real fun, just charge through each mission ignoring all the monsters on the side, get to the end of the Act, (takes about an hour) take out the main boss (Spider in this case, hard to miss, he fills the screen), see what he drops, then equip that and go through Act 1 again at your leisure taking out everything you missed the first time.
> Is it just me or do the bad guys drop tons of items that you have to
> recall lots, because that is what we were doing a lot of! Selling.
Yup, but don't worry, once you get to lvl 15+ or so you'll have good equipment and then you won't hang about picking up EVERYTHING that drops and having to go back to the shop every 5 minutes :)
E.G. all your armour is at like AC 50 except your boots? Just pick up boots till you get a nice pair. Also try to just pick up the yellow coloured 'unique' items, boss mobs drop these at the end of acts (the sub bosses you meet on the way there whose names are displayed at the bottom of the screen complete with health bars don't always drop, but the big ones do).
Also, for real fun, just charge through each mission ignoring all the monsters on the side, get to the end of the Act, (takes about an hour) take out the main boss (Spider in this case, hard to miss, he fills the screen), see what he drops, then equip that and go through Act 1 again at your leisure taking out everything you missed the first time.
Woah thats fast!
I just purchased the game because I have been waiting for it since about January! But it was worth it, an excellent game.
My friends and I (three of us) were playing multiplayer, for about 90 minuts, but only got to, what I assume is only about half way through act 1! :S
Is it just me or do the bad guys drop tons of items that you have to recall lots, because that is what we were doing a lot of! Selling.
I just purchased the game because I have been waiting for it since about January! But it was worth it, an excellent game.
My friends and I (three of us) were playing multiplayer, for about 90 minuts, but only got to, what I assume is only about half way through act 1! :S
Is it just me or do the bad guys drop tons of items that you have to recall lots, because that is what we were doing a lot of! Selling.
10 out of 10 for rather good?
Anyway, is it like Dark Alliance Co-op when playing online i.e. competing for items dropped by enemies?
Anyway, is it like Dark Alliance Co-op when playing online i.e. competing for items dropped by enemies?
Just come off after a two hour session online. The first 20 minutes were spent continually disconnecting and then finally managed to get a game where no disconnections occured and we stormed from Act 1 to Act 4 in 90 minutes! I think maybe there was a glitchy server to start off with and then they fixed it? Dunno, don't care, it's great online!
Rosalind wrote:
> I also loved Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance, and Baldurs Gate : DA2, as
> well as Dungeons and Dragons Heros, both in co-op. So even if
> Champions of Norreth is more of the same with little improvement I
> can't wait to get my hands on it.
>
> I guess the fact you have an early copy of it means it actually
> is going to get released this time. Yeay!
what
> I also loved Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance, and Baldurs Gate : DA2, as
> well as Dungeons and Dragons Heros, both in co-op. So even if
> Champions of Norreth is more of the same with little improvement I
> can't wait to get my hands on it.
>
> I guess the fact you have an early copy of it means it actually
> is going to get released this time. Yeay!
what
* sigh *
Damn you!
Thanks for the info. I never really look around to see what is available to buy but now I'm interested.
* adds to list of games to buy when husband isn't looking *
Damn you!
Thanks for the info. I never really look around to see what is available to buy but now I'm interested.
* adds to list of games to buy when husband isn't looking *
I also loved Baldurs Gate: Dark Alliance, and Baldurs Gate : DA2, as well as Dungeons and Dragons Heros, both in co-op. So even if Champions of Norreth is more of the same with little improvement I can't wait to get my hands on it.
I guess the fact you have an early copy of it means it actually is going to get released this time. Yeay!
I guess the fact you have an early copy of it means it actually is going to get released this time. Yeay!
I loved Baldurs Gate: DA in co-op. If Champions smashes that in the face with a long sword like you say it does, I'm gonna get it.
PS They fixed most of the bugs from the NTSC version for the PAL version, although if you've got a launch PS2 that hasn't died yet it may delay a little in loading NPC speech.
So far up to Act IV I've yet to find a bug that detracts from gameplay, so I think it's pretty safe to say ignore the horror stories from the States.
So far up to Act IV I've yet to find a bug that detracts from gameplay, so I think it's pretty safe to say ignore the horror stories from the States.
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