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Saw this for £20 in Sawbo so picked it up.
It's Codemasters (Operation Flashpoint etc) and they're usually a mark of quality so I had no worries plonking down my £ and sauntering off.
Think Commandos 2 mixed with a bit of Hidden & Dangerous 2 and you're pretty much there.
Except it's hard. Bloody hard. Think the hardest mission on the hardest level of Commandos 2 and then make it extra hard by hardening it with superhard toughness.
And baking it until it's really tough and hard.
By christ this'll test your patience, but it rewards pre-planning and tactics.
I'm usually, when faced with an RTS game, the bloke that amasses loads of troops and rushes blindly, screaming heroically and hoping my sheer weight of number means at least one will left standing to claim victory before collapsing in a heap.
A bit like the old Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan's last bit, but with no crying and sugary sentiment to ruin an otherwise excellent film.
Not here though. You get a set number of men, a briefing and off you go.
No support, no resource management, no harvesting berries to eat or chopping wood to make farms.
If you're lucky, you'll find a tank or car laying about to nick petrol from (having realised you can actually do this as demonstrated in the tutorial instead of frantically trying to assault a fuelling depot with 1 stupid soldier armed with a pistol against hordes of Nazis...damn).
Choose between Russian, German, UK & USA - independant campaigns a bit like Call of Duty but you can play in any order.
The 1st Russian mission goes like this:
Destroy the defensive gun positions.
Eliminate all traces of enemy in area.
"No worries" says Sgt Goatboy, "I'm a goddamn Military Genius as displayed by my victories in Flashpoint, CofD, Medal of Honour, Delta Force. Chuck Norris got nothing on me".
So Goatboy rubs his hands in anticipation of his vast Russian forces.
And he's given 1 tank with 4 crew, 1 car with 2 soldiers, a heavy machine gunner and a regular Comrade Boris soldier.
What? How am I expected to do this level with that paltry force? Christ, Iraq had more soldiers than I do.
So I start.
And die.
And restart.
And die.
I can't even survive the 1st wave of the 1st assault on the 1st mission.
I suck. Smoke a fag, read the instruction booklet.
I don't suck, the game does. Clearly.
I have another go and I'm all "Ok then stupid game, I'll set a bloody trap like you recommend"
I put heavy gunner in a building, leaning out the window to shoot.
I put Comrade Crappy behind a wall.
The tank lays in wait behind a building.
The car is bait, charging insanely at the big, scary, menacing defense guns.
Naturally swarms of Nazis have at me, followed by 2 tanks, a half-track and what appears to be The Batmobile (war is confusing).
And I fend them off.
Ok, I lost the car and the rubbish soldier but hey, war is hell (and confusing)
It then takes me another 3 hours to finish the 1st level.
I realise this game is excellent.
Hard, but excellent.
If you liked Commandos 2 but thought "I'd love to smash tanks through farmhouses and blow up cows with a 76mm Armour-Piercing Shell", then get this game.
If you liked Command & Conquer but thought "I hate gathering resources and mining and stupid future soldiers in buggies, I just want to attack furiously and blow up cows" then get this game.
If you liked Band of Brothers but thought "Why is Ross playing a mean person? Man, I'd drive a tank through his cottage window then turn and blow up his cows", get this game.
It's good. But hard.
A bit like The Equaliser.
It's Codemasters (Operation Flashpoint etc) and they're usually a mark of quality so I had no worries plonking down my £ and sauntering off.
Think Commandos 2 mixed with a bit of Hidden & Dangerous 2 and you're pretty much there.
Except it's hard. Bloody hard. Think the hardest mission on the hardest level of Commandos 2 and then make it extra hard by hardening it with superhard toughness.
And baking it until it's really tough and hard.
By christ this'll test your patience, but it rewards pre-planning and tactics.
I'm usually, when faced with an RTS game, the bloke that amasses loads of troops and rushes blindly, screaming heroically and hoping my sheer weight of number means at least one will left standing to claim victory before collapsing in a heap.
A bit like the old Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan's last bit, but with no crying and sugary sentiment to ruin an otherwise excellent film.
Not here though. You get a set number of men, a briefing and off you go.
No support, no resource management, no harvesting berries to eat or chopping wood to make farms.
If you're lucky, you'll find a tank or car laying about to nick petrol from (having realised you can actually do this as demonstrated in the tutorial instead of frantically trying to assault a fuelling depot with 1 stupid soldier armed with a pistol against hordes of Nazis...damn).
Choose between Russian, German, UK & USA - independant campaigns a bit like Call of Duty but you can play in any order.
The 1st Russian mission goes like this:
Destroy the defensive gun positions.
Eliminate all traces of enemy in area.
"No worries" says Sgt Goatboy, "I'm a goddamn Military Genius as displayed by my victories in Flashpoint, CofD, Medal of Honour, Delta Force. Chuck Norris got nothing on me".
So Goatboy rubs his hands in anticipation of his vast Russian forces.
And he's given 1 tank with 4 crew, 1 car with 2 soldiers, a heavy machine gunner and a regular Comrade Boris soldier.
What? How am I expected to do this level with that paltry force? Christ, Iraq had more soldiers than I do.
So I start.
And die.
And restart.
And die.
I can't even survive the 1st wave of the 1st assault on the 1st mission.
I suck. Smoke a fag, read the instruction booklet.
I don't suck, the game does. Clearly.
I have another go and I'm all "Ok then stupid game, I'll set a bloody trap like you recommend"
I put heavy gunner in a building, leaning out the window to shoot.
I put Comrade Crappy behind a wall.
The tank lays in wait behind a building.
The car is bait, charging insanely at the big, scary, menacing defense guns.
Naturally swarms of Nazis have at me, followed by 2 tanks, a half-track and what appears to be The Batmobile (war is confusing).
And I fend them off.
Ok, I lost the car and the rubbish soldier but hey, war is hell (and confusing)
It then takes me another 3 hours to finish the 1st level.
I realise this game is excellent.
Hard, but excellent.
If you liked Commandos 2 but thought "I'd love to smash tanks through farmhouses and blow up cows with a 76mm Armour-Piercing Shell", then get this game.
If you liked Command & Conquer but thought "I hate gathering resources and mining and stupid future soldiers in buggies, I just want to attack furiously and blow up cows" then get this game.
If you liked Band of Brothers but thought "Why is Ross playing a mean person? Man, I'd drive a tank through his cottage window then turn and blow up his cows", get this game.
It's good. But hard.
A bit like The Equaliser.
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I'm red-faced with fury at this game.
It's nails hard, to the point where I turn it off and have to go outside and smoke to calm down.
The Russian one, 3rd mission I think? You have to meet some bloke in a cottage and then board a train to escape. Ok, can meet the bloke after many many attempts, but you then have 4mins to board the train?
How the hell am I supposed to be tactical and sneaky, avoiding the many many more men than I have in 4 minutes?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
The American missions seems ok, doing the 1st one where you have to clear the town.
On easy.
It's nails hard, to the point where I turn it off and have to go outside and smoke to calm down.
The Russian one, 3rd mission I think? You have to meet some bloke in a cottage and then board a train to escape. Ok, can meet the bloke after many many attempts, but you then have 4mins to board the train?
How the hell am I supposed to be tactical and sneaky, avoiding the many many more men than I have in 4 minutes?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
The American missions seems ok, doing the 1st one where you have to clear the town.
On easy.
Edgy wrote:
> I bought this game...am stuck on the first mission of each
> campaign...I know its a great game...I just can't do it :(
I found the first German mission fairly easy, though I must admit when I started and saw how few soldiers I had and how many the British had, I wondered how the hell I going to get through it. The second German mission is harder, you've got to ambush a reconnaissance unit before ambushing a huge tank column with only two working tanks of your own, and no AT unit unless you scavenge some bazookas of dead enemies, and all in very short time frame.
The rest of the campaign is easy, basically attacking towns full of enemies with one tiger tank, though because they are so spread out it's easy to pick off enemies from a distance.
> I bought this game...am stuck on the first mission of each
> campaign...I know its a great game...I just can't do it :(
I found the first German mission fairly easy, though I must admit when I started and saw how few soldiers I had and how many the British had, I wondered how the hell I going to get through it. The second German mission is harder, you've got to ambush a reconnaissance unit before ambushing a huge tank column with only two working tanks of your own, and no AT unit unless you scavenge some bazookas of dead enemies, and all in very short time frame.
The rest of the campaign is easy, basically attacking towns full of enemies with one tiger tank, though because they are so spread out it's easy to pick off enemies from a distance.
I was close to getting this today actually but got a preowned Red faction for £4.97... hurrah, but now I'm lost.
I have the same tactics:
Rip CD out box, screw instructions and tutorials. Give myself a gun and run in head first shouting and usually dying.
It's the best way.
I have the same tactics:
Rip CD out box, screw instructions and tutorials. Give myself a gun and run in head first shouting and usually dying.
It's the best way.
The Russian is the toughest? Well that figures, because I was staring at the screen in confused anger thinking "Oh f### off then" before throwing myself at it again and again and again until I realised I wasn't playing tactically.
Started the 2nd Russian mission, where you're given 2 men.
That's it. 2 men.
Smoke, shower and then start with the Germans then
Started the 2nd Russian mission, where you're given 2 men.
That's it. 2 men.
Smoke, shower and then start with the Germans then
I bought this game...am stuck on the first mission of each campaign...I know its a great game...I just can't do it :(
I've read in other forums that the Russian campaign is the hardest in the game, while the German one is the easiest, which is what I started on. It's great fun, adding FPS controls so you can actually drive around tanks and completely level towns yourself rather than issuing orders to do so reminds me of good old days Cannon Fodder. But I love the tactics available, it's a rare thing where when I'm not playing a game like Soldiers, I'm still thinking of the strategies I can use when I go back.
And it doesn't force you to complete missions a certain way, your simply given some troops and objectives and are left to complete them as you see fit, with no pointless resource management to concern yourself with, no reinforcements for you to rely on, just you, a handful of troops and whatever you can find on the battlefield.
And I love it when a plan pays off. The first mission of the German campaign gives you four soldiers and three tanks, though the tanks can't be driven due to the threat of an air strike. The objectives are simple, take a bridge, and destroy the allies capabilities to call in air support, only there are dozens of soldiers and at least two AT guns guarding the APC with the radio for the aircraft.
Capturing the bridge was easy, getting the enemy caught between the crossfire of my infantry and machine gunner, but taking the farmhouse where the rest of the enemy where holed up was a bit more difficult. So I did something I rarely get a chance to do in RTS game, I used the surrounding environment to my advantage. I had three soldiers take firing position on the enemy and keep them occupied while I sent the forth crawling behind the farmhouse out of sight with a few grenades. The enemy where too busy to notice him, their mistake, he lobbed a few grenades at the AT guns before targeting the APC, killing each one before they had chance to know what hit them.
The Ai is superb, your own soldiers don’t moronically charge headlong into battles they can’t win, they obey the orders you give them , but I’m more impressed with the enemy behaviour. It’s a little foolhardy at times, infantry charging tanks, though mainly to throw grenades so they can blow out the tracks, but they suffer from the same flaws any normal human being would in battle. It gives the game that level of realism First Person Shooters like Call of Duty are famed for, in fact, Soldiers could very well be the closest you’ll get to a Call of Duty RTS.
I’ve nearly completed the German campaign (on easy because it is bloody hard) and then I’ll be trying my hand at the allied campaign. There are bonus missions too, though I’d also like to see how the co-op multiplayer game works. I’ll some practice first though.
And it doesn't force you to complete missions a certain way, your simply given some troops and objectives and are left to complete them as you see fit, with no pointless resource management to concern yourself with, no reinforcements for you to rely on, just you, a handful of troops and whatever you can find on the battlefield.
And I love it when a plan pays off. The first mission of the German campaign gives you four soldiers and three tanks, though the tanks can't be driven due to the threat of an air strike. The objectives are simple, take a bridge, and destroy the allies capabilities to call in air support, only there are dozens of soldiers and at least two AT guns guarding the APC with the radio for the aircraft.
Capturing the bridge was easy, getting the enemy caught between the crossfire of my infantry and machine gunner, but taking the farmhouse where the rest of the enemy where holed up was a bit more difficult. So I did something I rarely get a chance to do in RTS game, I used the surrounding environment to my advantage. I had three soldiers take firing position on the enemy and keep them occupied while I sent the forth crawling behind the farmhouse out of sight with a few grenades. The enemy where too busy to notice him, their mistake, he lobbed a few grenades at the AT guns before targeting the APC, killing each one before they had chance to know what hit them.
The Ai is superb, your own soldiers don’t moronically charge headlong into battles they can’t win, they obey the orders you give them , but I’m more impressed with the enemy behaviour. It’s a little foolhardy at times, infantry charging tanks, though mainly to throw grenades so they can blow out the tracks, but they suffer from the same flaws any normal human being would in battle. It gives the game that level of realism First Person Shooters like Call of Duty are famed for, in fact, Soldiers could very well be the closest you’ll get to a Call of Duty RTS.
I’ve nearly completed the German campaign (on easy because it is bloody hard) and then I’ll be trying my hand at the allied campaign. There are bonus missions too, though I’d also like to see how the co-op multiplayer game works. I’ll some practice first though.
Saw this for £20 in Sawbo so picked it up.
It's Codemasters (Operation Flashpoint etc) and they're usually a mark of quality so I had no worries plonking down my £ and sauntering off.
Think Commandos 2 mixed with a bit of Hidden & Dangerous 2 and you're pretty much there.
Except it's hard. Bloody hard. Think the hardest mission on the hardest level of Commandos 2 and then make it extra hard by hardening it with superhard toughness.
And baking it until it's really tough and hard.
By christ this'll test your patience, but it rewards pre-planning and tactics.
I'm usually, when faced with an RTS game, the bloke that amasses loads of troops and rushes blindly, screaming heroically and hoping my sheer weight of number means at least one will left standing to claim victory before collapsing in a heap.
A bit like the old Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan's last bit, but with no crying and sugary sentiment to ruin an otherwise excellent film.
Not here though. You get a set number of men, a briefing and off you go.
No support, no resource management, no harvesting berries to eat or chopping wood to make farms.
If you're lucky, you'll find a tank or car laying about to nick petrol from (having realised you can actually do this as demonstrated in the tutorial instead of frantically trying to assault a fuelling depot with 1 stupid soldier armed with a pistol against hordes of Nazis...damn).
Choose between Russian, German, UK & USA - independant campaigns a bit like Call of Duty but you can play in any order.
The 1st Russian mission goes like this:
Destroy the defensive gun positions.
Eliminate all traces of enemy in area.
"No worries" says Sgt Goatboy, "I'm a goddamn Military Genius as displayed by my victories in Flashpoint, CofD, Medal of Honour, Delta Force. Chuck Norris got nothing on me".
So Goatboy rubs his hands in anticipation of his vast Russian forces.
And he's given 1 tank with 4 crew, 1 car with 2 soldiers, a heavy machine gunner and a regular Comrade Boris soldier.
What? How am I expected to do this level with that paltry force? Christ, Iraq had more soldiers than I do.
So I start.
And die.
And restart.
And die.
I can't even survive the 1st wave of the 1st assault on the 1st mission.
I suck. Smoke a fag, read the instruction booklet.
I don't suck, the game does. Clearly.
I have another go and I'm all "Ok then stupid game, I'll set a bloody trap like you recommend"
I put heavy gunner in a building, leaning out the window to shoot.
I put Comrade Crappy behind a wall.
The tank lays in wait behind a building.
The car is bait, charging insanely at the big, scary, menacing defense guns.
Naturally swarms of Nazis have at me, followed by 2 tanks, a half-track and what appears to be The Batmobile (war is confusing).
And I fend them off.
Ok, I lost the car and the rubbish soldier but hey, war is hell (and confusing)
It then takes me another 3 hours to finish the 1st level.
I realise this game is excellent.
Hard, but excellent.
If you liked Commandos 2 but thought "I'd love to smash tanks through farmhouses and blow up cows with a 76mm Armour-Piercing Shell", then get this game.
If you liked Command & Conquer but thought "I hate gathering resources and mining and stupid future soldiers in buggies, I just want to attack furiously and blow up cows" then get this game.
If you liked Band of Brothers but thought "Why is Ross playing a mean person? Man, I'd drive a tank through his cottage window then turn and blow up his cows", get this game.
It's good. But hard.
A bit like The Equaliser.
It's Codemasters (Operation Flashpoint etc) and they're usually a mark of quality so I had no worries plonking down my £ and sauntering off.
Think Commandos 2 mixed with a bit of Hidden & Dangerous 2 and you're pretty much there.
Except it's hard. Bloody hard. Think the hardest mission on the hardest level of Commandos 2 and then make it extra hard by hardening it with superhard toughness.
And baking it until it's really tough and hard.
By christ this'll test your patience, but it rewards pre-planning and tactics.
I'm usually, when faced with an RTS game, the bloke that amasses loads of troops and rushes blindly, screaming heroically and hoping my sheer weight of number means at least one will left standing to claim victory before collapsing in a heap.
A bit like the old Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan's last bit, but with no crying and sugary sentiment to ruin an otherwise excellent film.
Not here though. You get a set number of men, a briefing and off you go.
No support, no resource management, no harvesting berries to eat or chopping wood to make farms.
If you're lucky, you'll find a tank or car laying about to nick petrol from (having realised you can actually do this as demonstrated in the tutorial instead of frantically trying to assault a fuelling depot with 1 stupid soldier armed with a pistol against hordes of Nazis...damn).
Choose between Russian, German, UK & USA - independant campaigns a bit like Call of Duty but you can play in any order.
The 1st Russian mission goes like this:
Destroy the defensive gun positions.
Eliminate all traces of enemy in area.
"No worries" says Sgt Goatboy, "I'm a goddamn Military Genius as displayed by my victories in Flashpoint, CofD, Medal of Honour, Delta Force. Chuck Norris got nothing on me".
So Goatboy rubs his hands in anticipation of his vast Russian forces.
And he's given 1 tank with 4 crew, 1 car with 2 soldiers, a heavy machine gunner and a regular Comrade Boris soldier.
What? How am I expected to do this level with that paltry force? Christ, Iraq had more soldiers than I do.
So I start.
And die.
And restart.
And die.
I can't even survive the 1st wave of the 1st assault on the 1st mission.
I suck. Smoke a fag, read the instruction booklet.
I don't suck, the game does. Clearly.
I have another go and I'm all "Ok then stupid game, I'll set a bloody trap like you recommend"
I put heavy gunner in a building, leaning out the window to shoot.
I put Comrade Crappy behind a wall.
The tank lays in wait behind a building.
The car is bait, charging insanely at the big, scary, menacing defense guns.
Naturally swarms of Nazis have at me, followed by 2 tanks, a half-track and what appears to be The Batmobile (war is confusing).
And I fend them off.
Ok, I lost the car and the rubbish soldier but hey, war is hell (and confusing)
It then takes me another 3 hours to finish the 1st level.
I realise this game is excellent.
Hard, but excellent.
If you liked Commandos 2 but thought "I'd love to smash tanks through farmhouses and blow up cows with a 76mm Armour-Piercing Shell", then get this game.
If you liked Command & Conquer but thought "I hate gathering resources and mining and stupid future soldiers in buggies, I just want to attack furiously and blow up cows" then get this game.
If you liked Band of Brothers but thought "Why is Ross playing a mean person? Man, I'd drive a tank through his cottage window then turn and blow up his cows", get this game.
It's good. But hard.
A bit like The Equaliser.
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