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Sat 24/07/04 at 19:22
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Saw this for £20 in Sawbo so picked it up.
It's Codemasters (Operation Flashpoint etc) and they're usually a mark of quality so I had no worries plonking down my £ and sauntering off.
Think Commandos 2 mixed with a bit of Hidden & Dangerous 2 and you're pretty much there.
Except it's hard. Bloody hard. Think the hardest mission on the hardest level of Commandos 2 and then make it extra hard by hardening it with superhard toughness.
And baking it until it's really tough and hard.
By christ this'll test your patience, but it rewards pre-planning and tactics.

I'm usually, when faced with an RTS game, the bloke that amasses loads of troops and rushes blindly, screaming heroically and hoping my sheer weight of number means at least one will left standing to claim victory before collapsing in a heap.
A bit like the old Matt Damon in Saving Private Ryan's last bit, but with no crying and sugary sentiment to ruin an otherwise excellent film.

Not here though. You get a set number of men, a briefing and off you go.
No support, no resource management, no harvesting berries to eat or chopping wood to make farms.
If you're lucky, you'll find a tank or car laying about to nick petrol from (having realised you can actually do this as demonstrated in the tutorial instead of frantically trying to assault a fuelling depot with 1 stupid soldier armed with a pistol against hordes of Nazis...damn).
Choose between Russian, German, UK & USA - independant campaigns a bit like Call of Duty but you can play in any order.

The 1st Russian mission goes like this:
Destroy the defensive gun positions.
Eliminate all traces of enemy in area.
"No worries" says Sgt Goatboy, "I'm a goddamn Military Genius as displayed by my victories in Flashpoint, CofD, Medal of Honour, Delta Force. Chuck Norris got nothing on me".
So Goatboy rubs his hands in anticipation of his vast Russian forces.
And he's given 1 tank with 4 crew, 1 car with 2 soldiers, a heavy machine gunner and a regular Comrade Boris soldier.
What? How am I expected to do this level with that paltry force? Christ, Iraq had more soldiers than I do.
So I start.
And die.
And restart.
And die.
I can't even survive the 1st wave of the 1st assault on the 1st mission.
I suck. Smoke a fag, read the instruction booklet.
I don't suck, the game does. Clearly.

I have another go and I'm all "Ok then stupid game, I'll set a bloody trap like you recommend"
I put heavy gunner in a building, leaning out the window to shoot.
I put Comrade Crappy behind a wall.
The tank lays in wait behind a building.
The car is bait, charging insanely at the big, scary, menacing defense guns.
Naturally swarms of Nazis have at me, followed by 2 tanks, a half-track and what appears to be The Batmobile (war is confusing).
And I fend them off.
Ok, I lost the car and the rubbish soldier but hey, war is hell (and confusing)
It then takes me another 3 hours to finish the 1st level.

I realise this game is excellent.
Hard, but excellent.
If you liked Commandos 2 but thought "I'd love to smash tanks through farmhouses and blow up cows with a 76mm Armour-Piercing Shell", then get this game.
If you liked Command & Conquer but thought "I hate gathering resources and mining and stupid future soldiers in buggies, I just want to attack furiously and blow up cows" then get this game.
If you liked Band of Brothers but thought "Why is Ross playing a mean person? Man, I'd drive a tank through his cottage window then turn and blow up his cows", get this game.

It's good. But hard.
A bit like The Equaliser.
Wed 10/11/04 at 19:48
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Posts: 4,279
Anyone got the new multiplayer patch for this?

If you haven't I suggest you do as it makes the game so much better.
Mon 18/10/04 at 19:09
"sprinter312"
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Camp_Freddy(UK) wrote:
> Agree with all the above. Great game.
>
>
> I'm on the Russian missiosn playing on easy cause I'm a wuss and hey
> life is TOO short, but I can't seem to get the third set of points to
> move when the train reverses into the sheds for the second
> time......this is really frustrating me.. Can anyone help??? well my man im stuck on that one too cant get into the stupid garage.tried to blow it up but nothing could do with some info on this if you have any cheers matey
Tue 31/08/04 at 16:23
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"A man with a stick"
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I downloaded the first patch, not much difference, same odd bugs such as soldiers occasionally getting completely stuck in the scenery.
Mon 30/08/04 at 16:52
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It's a known glitch with the game. Have you upgraded to the latest patch? Version 1.12 I think.
Mon 30/08/04 at 15:27
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"".........wtf""
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Agree with all the above. Great game.


I'm on the Russian missiosn playing on easy cause I'm a wuss and hey life is TOO short, but I can't seem to get the third set of points to move when the train reverses into the sheds for the second time......this is really frustrating me.. Can anyone help???
Mon 26/07/04 at 09:44
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Yeh, and co-op is superb fun. Does make the game slightly easier, however much more fun.

Typical example. One man runs wildly past the front of a Tank, hoping for dear life he doesn't get hit, while the other sneaks up behind the distracted tank and blows s**t into it. Reminds me of the excellence that is Conflict Desert Storm.
Mon 26/07/04 at 00:01
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"A man with a stick"
Posts: 5,883
Damarus wrote:
> It's a good game. The only problem is, is that the game seems poorly
> programmed or not tested thoroughly as it suffers quite a bit of
> slowdown on many machines. Mine being one of them.

Yeah it's a shame, not even the recent patch seems to of fixed it. Still, can't fault the actual game, it's addictive, and very tough, just like all good strategy games should be.
Sun 25/07/04 at 23:43
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"gsybe you!"
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Don't encourage Mr. Goatboy Sheepy, please, it damages my fragile ego.

Anyway, I might get this. But Ninja Gaiden has made me very wary of hard games. I'd rather get COD for cheap first I think, seeing as everybody raves about it.
Sun 25/07/04 at 21:43
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It's a good game. The only problem is, is that the game seems poorly programmed or not tested thoroughly as it suffers quite a bit of slowdown on many machines. Mine being one of them.
Sun 25/07/04 at 20:53
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I've got an image of you spending the weekend in your pants, unshaven with bloodshot eyes shouting at the screen.

And then probably still pulling.

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