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Sony have confirmed it. Blu-Ray will be a featured component in what is set to be their most lucrative bussiness move to date.
For those that don't know, DVD is already becoming outdated. Already you can get view high definition TV, that even surpasses that of DVD. In other words you can be watching Friday Night with Jonathan Ross and it'll look better than the latest Star Wars DVD's.
Does this seem right to you? No indeed it doesn't and 2 major companies also agree this. These 2 major companies have developed 2 new forms of movie media, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.
Sony, along with a whole host of other top names, back the Blu-Ray medium to be the next big thing in home entertainment. It is a massive 50GB in size, looks pretty funky and with it being included in the Playstation 3 will autmatically put Blu-Ray in millions and millions of homes worldwide. Hollywood would almost have to support the Blu-Ray system simply because the popularity of the Playstation brand will mean millions will have the ability to play them already. Sony will add pressure with their Tri-star, Columbia and MGM studios... Spiderman, Terminator and Bond already on Blu-Ray. Watch the new system fly.
Unless something incredibly unlikely happens, such as the PSP flops and the PSTwo fails to start then it is likely Sony will be looking at a steam rolling win for the next generation of consoles.
There is one negative aspect of Blu-Ray. Because it doesn't use the simple red laser system for DVD's (something that is now very cheap to implement) and uses Blue laser, it'll mean the cost of the system will be jacked up. Either Sony will have to release it at a high price, wait an extra amount of time or just suffer a loss on the system. The latter isn't something Sony have ever been willing to do.
It is this PS3 decision that makes the Blu-Ray's competitor, the HD-DVD, look bad. Although the system is cheaper to implement the size of the medium is a mere 22GB, under half that of Blu-Ray.
But hope may remain. It is possible that Microsoft's next system, codenamed Xenon, will use it. Microsoft are desperate to release a cheap system out of the box and not to suffer the price point themselves like they are with the X-box. Already they are removing the Hard drive and to incorperate something like Blu-Ray will mean the Xenon will launch at a very high price. In fact Microsoft are hoping to get a years head start (late 2005) on the competiton and Blu-Ray will be even more expensive to use. If Microsoft want a competitive medium HD-DVD may be the only way.
Microsoft with the weaker system is almost a complete role reversal from the current generation.
What of Nintendo? Who honestly knows. No one. Rumours persist that Nintendo will continue to go their own way and buck the trend of the industry. It persists that Nintendo will play down third party support and stick to first party software, that Nintendo will use a totally new system and won't offer movie playback at all.
These rumours are counteracted with the DS almost entirely. Nintendo now base more emphesis on third parties especially with the latest system and the recent GBA Videos indicate Nintendo willingness to develop video viewing means.
But it is also likely that Nintendo will want to fight piracy in such a way that games will be on a totally different form of medium (A.K.A Gamecube/DS) but it is also likely Nintendo will offer a "second medium". Already confirmed is that the Revolution will be backwards compatible. Which points to the inclusion of either very cheap to implement DVD system or slightly more expensive "HD-DVD".
If both Nintendo and Microsoft use "HD-DVD" then there maybe trouble ahead for Blu-Ray after all. Sure Sony may have the sales advantage, but with Nintendo set to launch simultaneously with Sony and Microsoft a year early. It already kick starts a proper war between the two mediums.
On the other hand, with DVD gaining a firm position in society how likely is it that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will be replacing it by 2006? Surly it'll take a good 5 years to properly take off? Is Nintendo likely to just stick with DVD movies? Especially as they lack the experience of it. But launching the system next to the Playstation 3 indicates that Nintendo are being really competitive this time, and they will want that to right down to the specifications and what the system offers.
Sony have a brilliant stratagy in place. Something Nintendo and Microsoft will have to be very clever to counteract. Recent reports indicate Nintendo are on the offensive, and it is likely we will see a far more agressive stance from the legendary developer... with the added bonus of brilliant and innovative "DS style" features. Microsoft are stripping down their system and offering in advance of the competiton. It is a surprise risk from Microsoft, hoping that releasing the system early will mean they get a stranglehold on the industry.
Didn't work for the Dreamcast did it.
For those that don't know, DVD is already becoming outdated. Already you can get view high definition TV, that even surpasses that of DVD. In other words you can be watching Friday Night with Jonathan Ross and it'll look better than the latest Star Wars DVD's.
Does this seem right to you? No indeed it doesn't and 2 major companies also agree this. These 2 major companies have developed 2 new forms of movie media, Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.
Sony, along with a whole host of other top names, back the Blu-Ray medium to be the next big thing in home entertainment. It is a massive 50GB in size, looks pretty funky and with it being included in the Playstation 3 will autmatically put Blu-Ray in millions and millions of homes worldwide. Hollywood would almost have to support the Blu-Ray system simply because the popularity of the Playstation brand will mean millions will have the ability to play them already. Sony will add pressure with their Tri-star, Columbia and MGM studios... Spiderman, Terminator and Bond already on Blu-Ray. Watch the new system fly.
Unless something incredibly unlikely happens, such as the PSP flops and the PSTwo fails to start then it is likely Sony will be looking at a steam rolling win for the next generation of consoles.
There is one negative aspect of Blu-Ray. Because it doesn't use the simple red laser system for DVD's (something that is now very cheap to implement) and uses Blue laser, it'll mean the cost of the system will be jacked up. Either Sony will have to release it at a high price, wait an extra amount of time or just suffer a loss on the system. The latter isn't something Sony have ever been willing to do.
It is this PS3 decision that makes the Blu-Ray's competitor, the HD-DVD, look bad. Although the system is cheaper to implement the size of the medium is a mere 22GB, under half that of Blu-Ray.
But hope may remain. It is possible that Microsoft's next system, codenamed Xenon, will use it. Microsoft are desperate to release a cheap system out of the box and not to suffer the price point themselves like they are with the X-box. Already they are removing the Hard drive and to incorperate something like Blu-Ray will mean the Xenon will launch at a very high price. In fact Microsoft are hoping to get a years head start (late 2005) on the competiton and Blu-Ray will be even more expensive to use. If Microsoft want a competitive medium HD-DVD may be the only way.
Microsoft with the weaker system is almost a complete role reversal from the current generation.
What of Nintendo? Who honestly knows. No one. Rumours persist that Nintendo will continue to go their own way and buck the trend of the industry. It persists that Nintendo will play down third party support and stick to first party software, that Nintendo will use a totally new system and won't offer movie playback at all.
These rumours are counteracted with the DS almost entirely. Nintendo now base more emphesis on third parties especially with the latest system and the recent GBA Videos indicate Nintendo willingness to develop video viewing means.
But it is also likely that Nintendo will want to fight piracy in such a way that games will be on a totally different form of medium (A.K.A Gamecube/DS) but it is also likely Nintendo will offer a "second medium". Already confirmed is that the Revolution will be backwards compatible. Which points to the inclusion of either very cheap to implement DVD system or slightly more expensive "HD-DVD".
If both Nintendo and Microsoft use "HD-DVD" then there maybe trouble ahead for Blu-Ray after all. Sure Sony may have the sales advantage, but with Nintendo set to launch simultaneously with Sony and Microsoft a year early. It already kick starts a proper war between the two mediums.
On the other hand, with DVD gaining a firm position in society how likely is it that Blu-Ray and HD-DVD will be replacing it by 2006? Surly it'll take a good 5 years to properly take off? Is Nintendo likely to just stick with DVD movies? Especially as they lack the experience of it. But launching the system next to the Playstation 3 indicates that Nintendo are being really competitive this time, and they will want that to right down to the specifications and what the system offers.
Sony have a brilliant stratagy in place. Something Nintendo and Microsoft will have to be very clever to counteract. Recent reports indicate Nintendo are on the offensive, and it is likely we will see a far more agressive stance from the legendary developer... with the added bonus of brilliant and innovative "DS style" features. Microsoft are stripping down their system and offering in advance of the competiton. It is a surprise risk from Microsoft, hoping that releasing the system early will mean they get a stranglehold on the industry.
Didn't work for the Dreamcast did it.
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munn wrote:
> Not as cool as "Playstation 3"
>
> In fact, Sony should scrap the playstation part, and call it
> "Three"
Then you'd get stupid people going 'blimey! this mobile phone's a bit big!'
> Not as cool as "Playstation 3"
>
> In fact, Sony should scrap the playstation part, and call it
> "Three"
Then you'd get stupid people going 'blimey! this mobile phone's a bit big!'
FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> I don't really think summnig up each console by the media they use
Oh come on, the inclusion of a DVD in the PS2 not only triggered the DVD boom but sold hundreds of millions of PS2's.
It was Nintendo biggest mistake, believe the public would prefer a cheaper none DVD system than a more expensive one.
Sony won the bet.
> I don't really think summnig up each console by the media they use
Oh come on, the inclusion of a DVD in the PS2 not only triggered the DVD boom but sold hundreds of millions of PS2's.
It was Nintendo biggest mistake, believe the public would prefer a cheaper none DVD system than a more expensive one.
Sony won the bet.
Yeah I remember saying that the Xbox would flop horribly. In the same post that I said I was the queen of Nigeria
FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> And until Ninty says something solid about the Revolution, it's a
> unknown quantity. You never know, it could be everything we've ever
> wanted - a giant microphone, for instance.
Thats one of Nintendo's biggest problems, its obsession with keeping things secret. People are tired of being kept in the dark right up until the last minute and by then everyones bored waiting anyway! I understand they can't give away everything but its now getting tedious and frustrating.
> And until Ninty says something solid about the Revolution, it's a
> unknown quantity. You never know, it could be everything we've ever
> wanted - a giant microphone, for instance.
Thats one of Nintendo's biggest problems, its obsession with keeping things secret. People are tired of being kept in the dark right up until the last minute and by then everyones bored waiting anyway! I understand they can't give away everything but its now getting tedious and frustrating.
N64 Fan wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> And until Ninty says something solid about the Revolution, it's a
> unknown quantity. You never know, it could be everything we've ever
> wanted - a giant microphone, for instance.
>
> Thats one of Nintendo's biggest problems, its obsession with keeping
> things secret. People are tired of being kept in the dark right up
> until the last minute and by then everyones bored waiting anyway! I
> understand they can't give away everything but its now getting
> tedious and frustrating.
Thats why I cancelled ALL my subscriptions to NGC, CUBE and NINTENDO magazine.
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> And until Ninty says something solid about the Revolution, it's a
> unknown quantity. You never know, it could be everything we've ever
> wanted - a giant microphone, for instance.
>
> Thats one of Nintendo's biggest problems, its obsession with keeping
> things secret. People are tired of being kept in the dark right up
> until the last minute and by then everyones bored waiting anyway! I
> understand they can't give away everything but its now getting
> tedious and frustrating.
Thats why I cancelled ALL my subscriptions to NGC, CUBE and NINTENDO magazine.
Nintendo have been ripped off so many times in the past it just isn't funny anymore.
Therefore they keep things secret so the opposition won't catch up for several years.
Therefore they keep things secret so the opposition won't catch up for several years.
Microsoft aren't stripping down their system to get it out early etc. It's to counter piracy in the far east, especially Korea where 100Gbit modems are making games available to chipped boxes with HDDs in them in a very short space of time.
Nintendo will never get a foothold on the mass market ever again, because developers don't trust them. Nintendo lost out the sony because Sony revolutionised the way games were liceneced by the hardware manufacturer and sold to publishers. Sony now hold a base of fans through marketing third party titles which will not be lost to another manufacturer.
Only going online and integrating with Mesenger and Hotmail will sell Xboxs, and only people who have some sort of affinity with Nintendo will buy their new console.
People generally wont care what hardware is in them or what they will or wont support, they will buy with what they already know.
Nintendo will never get a foothold on the mass market ever again, because developers don't trust them. Nintendo lost out the sony because Sony revolutionised the way games were liceneced by the hardware manufacturer and sold to publishers. Sony now hold a base of fans through marketing third party titles which will not be lost to another manufacturer.
Only going online and integrating with Mesenger and Hotmail will sell Xboxs, and only people who have some sort of affinity with Nintendo will buy their new console.
People generally wont care what hardware is in them or what they will or wont support, they will buy with what they already know.
Rubbish Bonus all success stories eventually fall...
This is a reiteration of an article on IGN. Nintendo are still extremley popular even with the casual gamer... Resident Evil 4 will cause a mass interest.
This is a reiteration of an article on IGN. Nintendo are still extremley popular even with the casual gamer... Resident Evil 4 will cause a mass interest.
Dringo wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> I don't really think summnig up each console by the media they use
>
> Oh come on, the inclusion of a DVD in the PS2 not only triggered the
> DVD boom but sold hundreds of millions of PS2's.
>
> It was Nintendo biggest mistake, believe the public would prefer a
> cheaper none DVD system than a more expensive one.
>
> Sony won the bet.
But Blu-Ray is just better DVD - no where near as revolutionary as from video tape to DVD.
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> I don't really think summnig up each console by the media they use
>
> Oh come on, the inclusion of a DVD in the PS2 not only triggered the
> DVD boom but sold hundreds of millions of PS2's.
>
> It was Nintendo biggest mistake, believe the public would prefer a
> cheaper none DVD system than a more expensive one.
>
> Sony won the bet.
But Blu-Ray is just better DVD - no where near as revolutionary as from video tape to DVD.
Blu-Ray is MASSIVE and can hold so much more...
It is the next step in video format, apparently.
IGN wrote all about it.
It is the next step in video format, apparently.
IGN wrote all about it.
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