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Second year at University, still the same.
I should probably clarify that I'm not talking about "students that are DJs", I've come across some that are quite good, I'm talking about "DJs for students", the sort that any place trying to attract "students" will hire.
Whether a DJ plays music you like is probably more down to personal taste more than anything else so it would be a bit unfair to rate a DJ purely on that. There are other factors though that you can rate them by.
Say for example:
The DJ is a God
Okay, you still might not enjoy the night if they play music you hate but even then you might still find yourself grudgingly impressed. Mixing, matching, scratching, they add a personal touch to the music you play rather than just a setlist, and will likely have a personal taste so you might hear music you've never heard before, or old favourites in ways you never imagined them. Rare and expensive though...
The DJ has taste
Okay. No fancy tricks like professional scratching and mixing and they might still play tracks you hate, but they've got a personal taste so inbetween "hits" and "classics" you'll come across some fresh tunes/beats that aren't necessarily so mainstream. Even if you think they've got bad taste, you can still respect them for having a taste of their own.
The DJ has no taste
Well, everyone has a taste but this DJ will set it aside for "work". A biological jukebox that will randomly play songs from a "setlist" (that compromises entirely of a set of "hits" and "classics" from a certain "genre") and might take requests. Can't be exciting but some people like their club nights to be kept simple and it's more about "socialising" than hearing new music. And you'll get on just fine if you like the music they play.
The DJ is a TlT!!
With all the deck skills of the tasteless biological jukebox, the DJ decides to "spice things up" by being a radio presenter wannabe. Saying stupid cliché things. This is forgivable inbetween songs but most aren't happy to leave it there - they start interrupting songs. If they just talked over the music in time to it, silly but musical. If they talked with no rhythm over the music then that might be a little annoying but ignorable.
Instead they cut out the music completely to say some retarded cliché.
"Put your hands up"
"Anyone here from Nottingham?"
"We've got xxxxxxx, yyyyyyyy, and zzzzzzz still to come so GET READY!!!!11!!!11111"
The more you love the song, the more you're into it, the more annoying it is when the idiot cuts it off to spew some stupid cliché.
So DJs for "student nights"?
Sometimes just tasteless (even then they still stick to the same "cheese setlist" - but I guess that's a clash with my personal taste rather than with them) but more often than not they're a complete TlT. To be fair, it's places with these muppets that tend to be more successful with the students so perhaps they're like it for good reason, and I know that I don't have to go to all these "student" nights. But when it's the night of choice for so many people around you... it can get annoying at the least.
Ironically, if a place does an "amature night", a showcase of "DJs who are students" there's a chance of genuine quality...
So do these cretins wind you all up as well or do you lot love this whole student "cheese" scene?
I should probably clarify that I'm not talking about "students that are DJs", I've come across some that are quite good, I'm talking about "DJs for students", the sort that any place trying to attract "students" will hire.
Whether a DJ plays music you like is probably more down to personal taste more than anything else so it would be a bit unfair to rate a DJ purely on that. There are other factors though that you can rate them by.
Say for example:
The DJ is a God
Okay, you still might not enjoy the night if they play music you hate but even then you might still find yourself grudgingly impressed. Mixing, matching, scratching, they add a personal touch to the music you play rather than just a setlist, and will likely have a personal taste so you might hear music you've never heard before, or old favourites in ways you never imagined them. Rare and expensive though...
The DJ has taste
Okay. No fancy tricks like professional scratching and mixing and they might still play tracks you hate, but they've got a personal taste so inbetween "hits" and "classics" you'll come across some fresh tunes/beats that aren't necessarily so mainstream. Even if you think they've got bad taste, you can still respect them for having a taste of their own.
The DJ has no taste
Well, everyone has a taste but this DJ will set it aside for "work". A biological jukebox that will randomly play songs from a "setlist" (that compromises entirely of a set of "hits" and "classics" from a certain "genre") and might take requests. Can't be exciting but some people like their club nights to be kept simple and it's more about "socialising" than hearing new music. And you'll get on just fine if you like the music they play.
The DJ is a TlT!!
With all the deck skills of the tasteless biological jukebox, the DJ decides to "spice things up" by being a radio presenter wannabe. Saying stupid cliché things. This is forgivable inbetween songs but most aren't happy to leave it there - they start interrupting songs. If they just talked over the music in time to it, silly but musical. If they talked with no rhythm over the music then that might be a little annoying but ignorable.
Instead they cut out the music completely to say some retarded cliché.
"Put your hands up"
"Anyone here from Nottingham?"
"We've got xxxxxxx, yyyyyyyy, and zzzzzzz still to come so GET READY!!!!11!!!11111"
The more you love the song, the more you're into it, the more annoying it is when the idiot cuts it off to spew some stupid cliché.
So DJs for "student nights"?
Sometimes just tasteless (even then they still stick to the same "cheese setlist" - but I guess that's a clash with my personal taste rather than with them) but more often than not they're a complete TlT. To be fair, it's places with these muppets that tend to be more successful with the students so perhaps they're like it for good reason, and I know that I don't have to go to all these "student" nights. But when it's the night of choice for so many people around you... it can get annoying at the least.
Ironically, if a place does an "amature night", a showcase of "DJs who are students" there's a chance of genuine quality...
So do these cretins wind you all up as well or do you lot love this whole student "cheese" scene?
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The thing with "proper" DJ's is they play music far too loud in clubs - if you're on the dancefloor you can only stand it for 30 mins or so before you have to move away.
I've never seen a proper DJ apart from TV, the only ones I've seen are the ones who play really bad pop music.
Niddle wrote:
> You need to see a HUGE name DJ to know what they mean...
I like dance DJ's and seeing Judge Jules or Dave Pierce is fantastic! Normal club ones are usually rubbish though and some even just stick on a dance CD compilation hoping no-one will notice!
> You need to see a HUGE name DJ to know what they mean...
I like dance DJ's and seeing Judge Jules or Dave Pierce is fantastic! Normal club ones are usually rubbish though and some even just stick on a dance CD compilation hoping no-one will notice!
Der Nazi wrote:
> smv wrote:
> Explain to them why it is wrong that they have the same taste in
> music as most 14 yr old girls.
>
> Thanks to several ska and punk bands emerging in my brother's year at
> school, there are a large number of 14 year-old girls dressing like
> punks and stating that they're huge fans of the Clash and so on...
> apparently not one of them has yet managed to name their favourite
> Clash, Sex Pistols or Specials song. Whatever's fashionable goes,
> even if they don't have a clue about the music.
I like Stevie from The Clash, he is SOOO Lush!
> smv wrote:
> Explain to them why it is wrong that they have the same taste in
> music as most 14 yr old girls.
>
> Thanks to several ska and punk bands emerging in my brother's year at
> school, there are a large number of 14 year-old girls dressing like
> punks and stating that they're huge fans of the Clash and so on...
> apparently not one of them has yet managed to name their favourite
> Clash, Sex Pistols or Specials song. Whatever's fashionable goes,
> even if they don't have a clue about the music.
I like Stevie from The Clash, he is SOOO Lush!
Der Nazi wrote:
> Unsurprisingly, my taste in music is (Mostly) hard rock and metal
> from roughly 1970-1990...
hair metal :-O
> Unsurprisingly, my taste in music is (Mostly) hard rock and metal
> from roughly 1970-1990...
hair metal :-O
Or try decks yourself.
Mixing is an artform in itself.
Also, I think that a lot of proper DJs make their own samples that they go on to use at gigs.
Mixing is an artform in itself.
Also, I think that a lot of proper DJs make their own samples that they go on to use at gigs.
SHEEPY wrote:
> I hate people who go on about DJs like they're some kinda of genius.
> No love, they play other people's music.
It's different.
You need to see a HUGE name DJ to know what they mean...
> I hate people who go on about DJs like they're some kinda of genius.
> No love, they play other people's music.
It's different.
You need to see a HUGE name DJ to know what they mean...
smv wrote:
> Explain to them why it is wrong that they have the same taste in
> music as most 14 yr old girls.
Thanks to several ska and punk bands emerging in my brother's year at school, there are a large number of 14 year-old girls dressing like punks and stating that they're huge fans of the Clash and so on... apparently not one of them has yet managed to name their favourite Clash, Sex Pistols or Specials song. Whatever's fashionable goes, even if they don't have a clue about the music.
> Explain to them why it is wrong that they have the same taste in
> music as most 14 yr old girls.
Thanks to several ska and punk bands emerging in my brother's year at school, there are a large number of 14 year-old girls dressing like punks and stating that they're huge fans of the Clash and so on... apparently not one of them has yet managed to name their favourite Clash, Sex Pistols or Specials song. Whatever's fashionable goes, even if they don't have a clue about the music.
The only thing you can do is try and educate your student friends.
Explain to them why it is wrong that they have the same taste in music as most 14 yr old girls.
Explain to them why it is wrong that they have the same taste in music as most 14 yr old girls.
smv wrote:
> The sad fact is that this is the music that most drunken students want
> to hear - I doubt most of those DJs would ever listen to that music at
> home, but at work they appeal to their audience (like Cong_Man says).
That's why I was more complaining about the retarded commenting than the taste in music. Most of these places are just biological jukeboxes taking requests from the "student" crowd.
Cong_Man wrote:
> Heh, I used to do a bit of DJing when I was at College, to this day, I
> can mix just about anything and even do some basic scratching. But I
> quickly discovered that no-one shares my taste in music, so I'd have
> to stick on cheesy chart hit after cheesy chart-hit. That's about
> when I packed it in...
Awww...
Playing the main floor on a student night was always going to be suicidal in that respect. I'm sure there were plenty of places that would've appreciated your style. I've found a club called Mode that has more than one room. They normally have someone like you in a smaller room and there's a big student cheese room for me to leave my student friends in while I enjoy it. :-)
> The sad fact is that this is the music that most drunken students want
> to hear - I doubt most of those DJs would ever listen to that music at
> home, but at work they appeal to their audience (like Cong_Man says).
That's why I was more complaining about the retarded commenting than the taste in music. Most of these places are just biological jukeboxes taking requests from the "student" crowd.
Cong_Man wrote:
> Heh, I used to do a bit of DJing when I was at College, to this day, I
> can mix just about anything and even do some basic scratching. But I
> quickly discovered that no-one shares my taste in music, so I'd have
> to stick on cheesy chart hit after cheesy chart-hit. That's about
> when I packed it in...
Awww...
Playing the main floor on a student night was always going to be suicidal in that respect. I'm sure there were plenty of places that would've appreciated your style. I've found a club called Mode that has more than one room. They normally have someone like you in a smaller room and there's a big student cheese room for me to leave my student friends in while I enjoy it. :-)
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