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"Patrick Vieira......"

..... will have showdown talks with Arsenal next week and will give a decision on wether to stay or not.

Will he go or will he stay ?

sandman wrote:
> A lot of this uncertainty must be blamed on Wenger himself whose continuing hesitation and failure to actually commit to an extension to his contract (despite repeatdly assuring fans it would be resolved quickly) leave everything up in the air.

I agree. Wenger should have signed a contract long before now and his dithering has made several players question their future at the club.

As for Vieira I don't think you can blame him for considering a move. He could walk into any team he likes. A player of his ability should be winning major trophies every season. A players career is short and if he feels he is at a club which will not challenge for the champions league then you can not blame him for wanting out. Arsenal had a great chance of winning last season and perhaps Vieira is right when he says we might have pulled it off if we still had Overmars and Petit in the squad.

If Arsenal were serious about competing with the big boys then they should waste no time in splashing out £60m on three or four major signings. That would signal our intent and Vieira would either have to sign a new contract or make some other excuse for leaving.

The point is that Viera's discontent was revealed to the media over his comments about the club releasing Petit and Overmars. How can he have the cheek to say that they shouldn't have been allowed to leave then demand a move himself. If reports of what he said to French teammates at the Japan game last week are true - that he has made up his mind and will demand to go - then sod him.

He's told us not to release great players so we won't. Let him rot on the reserves bench for all I care. Arsenal fans have tirelessly cheered his name and is a firm favourite we hoped would take over the capataincy post-Adams. He very recently said how happy he was at Arsenal after firmly putting to rest rumours of a move following the two red cards easly in the season. If he has turned so quickly it smacks of opportunism and shows no respect to loyal Arsenal fans.

What would be more galling is if he ending up precipitating a move for Pires who I believe is our best player (after Viera, obviously) and a strong prospect for next season.

I hope it is all just media rubbish and that Viera will stay at Highbury for years to come but, if if the stories are true, I see no reason to bow to his demands.

Of course, this is just one symptom of an increasing sense of unease and hesitation at Arsenal with a number of matters unresolved (today's papers are even hinting at serious opposition to the new ground at Ashburton Grove!). A lot of this uncertainty must be blamed on Wenger himself whose continuing hesitation and failure to actually commit to an extension to his contract (despite repeatdly assuring fans it would be resolved quickly) leave everything up in the air.

Dyer has got some potential he when he did play for england he looked like a good prospect for the future. but he hasnt really done anything to prove the value that is being splashed around the papers. And would Ferguson, the same person who said he woudnt pay £600,000 for Robbie keane, signdyer for £20M?

You mention Kieron Dyer as a possible signing for Man Utd. The papers keep linking him with a £20m move to either Man Utd or an Italian/spanish club. Maybe I expect too much from some players like being two footed or an ability to head the ball but Kieron Dyer ain`t worth £10m and all this talk seems to have come out since he got injured. It may be he hasn`t settled in Newcastle and his agent is offering him to these clubs because, why would teams be interested when there are serious doubts about his long term fitness due to shin-splints. I accept he was at his best before injury and is young enough to improve like Rio Ferdinand has and could become a regular in the England team IF he reaches his potential.

Just imagine if Man Utd did actually get Thuram, Veron and Dyer all for next season! They'd be pretty unstoppable.

I would have to disagree. Veron is one of the worlds top midfileders and ranks alongside Zidane Keane and Figo. If he were to play in the premiership he would pi$$ all over everyone. I dont think the Premiership is rated at the the same level as the spanish and Italian leagues. just any world class player, at the moment they want to be playing in Italy or spain. Makes me wonder why Veron wants to come to United ( if the story is true anyway).

I am perhaps biased here but I believe Vieira is THE best midfielder in the world - bar none. Arsenal will not be able to replace in the transfer fee. Whatsmore, Vieira's exit will see several other players leave Highbury (ie, Pires and probably Henry).

Wenger needs to get his cheque book out quickly and convince Vieira that he can acheive his goals at Highbury. I doubt Vieira will receive the same adulation at any other club, and he has been promised the Arsenal captaincy when Adams calls it a day. I reckon he will stay - but I am not convinced. These French players seem to change their mind every other day.

Veron is definitly over-rated and is not worth 20m.

Vieira will be a tough person to replace if he were to leave and considering that Arsenal needs to buy a lot of players to cover what is an aging team is just going to be a headache for Wenger.

I think Veron is over-rated , he can pass the ball but tends to fade out of games and for a so-called dead ball specialist he wastes plenty of free-kicks. Viera ain`t all that innocent ,- remember the greener against W.Ham and he does tend to get his retaliation in first. When he first came to the premiership I thought he was hard done-by but he`s had a fair ride for the past season and a half. He probably looked around the changing room after being Arsenals only star in the F A Cup final and thought- "What are Charlie Dimmock and Jimmy Nail doing here and who`s that porn star with the pony-tail" and now he wants out.

The stupid media are correct sometimes though. anyone here about Veron going to man u for £20M? i would love to see a player of his talent in the premiership.