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'Pool once again linked with Joaquin, which Rafa denies. Obviously - he's far too good to play for us.

Joaquin is amazing. One of the best right-wingers around, I'd say. Which is what we need. But what, exactly is the incentive in coming to a team as blatantly lacking as us? I hate to say it, but we're not good enough for Joaquin. The man should be at Milan, Chelsea, Real, Barca. I'd like him to go to Barca, but they probably don't need him, what with Giuly and Ezquerro. Real could use him as Beckham's successor, I guess, and when was the last time Milan actually had a proper winger?

Or, he could always stay at Betis. A team on the up with quality players like Assuncao and Xisco knocking about.

So here's the question: Where should Joaquin go? Because he sure as hell isn't coming to Liverpool.

Stryke wrote:
> Joaquin, Ronaldo, Guily, Ljungberg...Who am I missing? Out of the
> 'big' right-wingers?
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> I don't include Beckham. He's not as good as any of them. Or
> Cammeronasi (sp? I don't care).

1. It's Giuly, you swine.

2. Beckham isn't a winger.

3. Beckham is, while direct comparisons would be silly, probably more of an asset than any of the above.

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Joaquin was expected to go to Real, in fact he even supports Real Madrid, but Luxemburgo doesn't use wingers in the traditional sense. Plus he'd hardly ever play with the amount of very good midfielders in the team. I'm glad he stayed with Betis, although I'm suprised Liverpool didn't go for him, he seems to be exactly the type of player they're looking for. I was about to create a topic asking why they didn't get him when this news story came up.

He's still good, but not as instrumental as he used to be....

Colourless wrote:
> I think Freddie Ljungberg was a lot better in central midfield...

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He's done brilliantly for Arsenal over the last few seasons from out wide. Scored goals a-plenty and made more than I can remember.

Dringo wrote:
> The fact is Owen and Crouch up front would be a killer partnership.

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Why, because Owen played so badly with Fowler?

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> Shame Rafa is too Josefied to realise it... but with a squad well
> below the level of Chelsea.

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No, why do poeple think Chelsea and Liverpool play the same formation? Chelsea play 4-3-3. Duff/Robben/SWP/Joe Cole operate as true wing-forwards. Liverpool, on the other hand, play 4-5-1. Garcia/Zenden/Riise operate as midfielders. Chelsea can counter-attack with speed and can hurt you from out wide. Liverpool can punt it up for Crouch to lose.

I think Freddie Ljungberg was a lot better in central midfield...

The fact is Owen and Crouch up front would be a killer partnership.

Shame Rafa is too Josefied to realise it... but with a squad well below the level of Chelsea.

His own fault for selling him. And yes, "he wanted to go". But does anyone actually believe Rafa tried to keep him? No, because he doesn't fit in with the system.

(For doesn't fit in with the system, read not tall, slow and crap. The Djib and Milan are guilty of this crime too).

Yeah to be fair to Rafa he did say he would not pay double for Owen after selling him for £8m.

Stryke wrote:

> This 'we couldn't afford Mikey' line that Rafa chants like a mantra
> is bullcrap because he was scared of the fans reaction if he told the
> truth.

Isn't it 'we're not paying double"

Simao's more of a forward, SWP isn't on a par with those I named. I think, anyway.

The other Chelsea ones are left-wingers, anyway. Except Joe Cole, who doesn't really seem to have a position.

Edit: I am, of course, forgetting Figo. Duh.