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Mon 03/10/05 at 17:02
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For most people wars a pretty strange subject, a little like marmite some people love them some people hate them, but in the end what what would the world shape up like if we'd never have any. . . . . . . . .

***Countrys would not be great, empires would not have been crafted, the great romans would have been known merely as a bunch of troublesome chavs trying to pick fights. all beit they did invent some pretty neat stuff, some of there greatest inventions were in the sole pursuit of war and global domination.

***America wouldn't be a super power, it would have remained isolated had the world wars never began. they would have never leeched off there allies selling arms at slightly to high prices and only really coming in to help to late when it looked as though the allies wouldn't be around to fuel the american economy by buying there weaopns.

***America wouldn't look so bloody daft if they hadn't lost a war against the poorly equiped vietnamese or when fighting iraq, they toppled saddam fair enough but fat lot of good thats done them, rather live in fear than in fear of suicide bomebers and anarchy.

***Britain wouldn't have ruled 1 third of the world and become the greatest nation to have ever existed. Churchill wouldn't have become our saviour and we wouldn't have a great amount of heritage to be proud of.

***Hitler wouldn't have come to power had the 1st world war never taken place, he wouldn't have killed 6 million inncocent jews and the British could no longer chant "2 world wars and 1 world cup doo da doo da" at German matches, it wouldn't meen so much to beat germany in world cup finals or hammer them 5-1 in internationals.

***The French wouldn't have fought and lost every single war they fought in, they would never have crumbled beneath the military might of Britain, which without war would not have existed. I tell a lie the French did win one war, all be it the French civil war where the outcome pretty much gauranteed a winner.

***The russians wouldn't have become so bitter the Tsar may still be ruling them had it not been for war, Russians would not have such a hatred and fear of Germany. There wouldn't have been a cold war, no space race and as a result perhaps no great spacestations or even decent space exploration.

***Technological advancements wouldn't have been so urgent, men develop weapons and equipment to kill other men better, the other men will then build better defences to stop being killed by the men, the men will then build bigger bombs and better weapons to breach better defences and so on.

***History books, would be practically empty, school text books bland and uninteresting, your grandad wouldn't have sat you down and proudly shown you his polished medals, or your nan wouldn't have been telling you how great your grandad was.

***Computer games would have barely evolved, Halo, Half life, Rome Total war, age of empires and so many other great games based on what could be described as a human way of life, War. If war hadn't existed the gun wouldn't have been needed and never been made, any game envolving a gun would have never existed and gamers would suffer an eternal onslought of monkey ball, tetris installments and other games which don't supply human gaming needs of blood lust and intense action.

So all in all, war may not be a great thing to be in, but there is no doubting the world would have been a pretty boring place and we the people of today would not have been as prosperous as we are now, WARS also an important way to stop things going wrong, for example if we hadn't of gone to war with Hitler, he would have slowly taken over europe before becoming unstopable and Nazism may have ruled the world, but it didn't because Britain went to war with them and stood fast against a far more powerful army and one because no one can beat the British.
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:49
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"Not a Jew"
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Also.. "The russians wouldn't have become so bitter the Tsar may still be ruling them had it not been for war,"

Never, the war was only a catalyst, the downfall of the Tsar was inevitable - all other countries had changed their system of government at least in the previous century!
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:48
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"gsybe you!"
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'Pompous rejects' being a national charecteristic? In that case, all British people love roast beef!

I realise I may have gone to town a little too much, but I get very annoyed at stupid comments about the French - I'm not a francophile, I just dislike such stupidity.
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:46
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I havn't refered to the french as crap, i do happen to think they are pompous rejcts but thats not the point, the point is you have made an argument out of nothin.
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:44
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"gsybe you!"
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What?

Look, shall I spell it out for you?

Napoleon [URL]http://www.french-at-a-touch.com/Graphics_M-O/Map_of_French_Empire_at_its_Height.jpg[/URL]

1914 - [URL]http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/images/frnc~emp.gif&imgrefurl=http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/frnc-emp.htm&h=98&w=106&sz=1&tbnid=NAN292QirWQJ:&tbnh=73&tbnw=79&hl=en&start=46&prev=/images%3Fq%3DMap%2Bof%2Bthe%2BFrench%2BEmpire%2B%26start%3D40%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN[/URL]

and that second map is excluding the American and Canadian terriotry.

So umm, how have the French always been crap?
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:39
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I do have to point out that 1 paragraph which at no point mentions France's colonies or empire does not disprove the message i was trying to acheive
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:35
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"gsybe you!"
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The fact that Britain ruled 1/4 of the world is utterly irrelevant.

I have to admit, I don't actually know the names of wars that France has won off the top of my head - if I thought about it I could, but the simple fact they had an empire kind of shows your argument to be...uh... crap?
Tue 04/10/05 at 20:25
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Indeed, they may have ruled half of Europe at one stage, but the British empire spanned 1 third of the world.

I must also add that your straying from the question posed, name a war they have one, a war not a battle.
Tue 04/10/05 at 19:48
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"gsybe you!"
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You do realise France expelled all English rule from its soil, then set up an Empire that encompassed parts of the Pacific and the Caribbean, as well as parts of Canada and North America, vast swathes of South East Asia and West Africa, AND at one point ruled half of Europe?

Nah, what have the French ever done?!
Tue 04/10/05 at 19:16
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Chr1s wrote:
> "War, it's fantastic."
>
> Hot Shots 2 anyone?

If theres ever anything that can promote war its hot shots, hmmm good memories of that film
Tue 04/10/05 at 19:14
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Cycloon wrote:
> I know this is a (crap) joke thread, but seriously, where the hell
> does this come from?
>
> The fact they got their asses kicked in WW2, which we ALMOST did as
> well?
>
> Or is it just cos Napoleon never happened?

Name a war that the french one, please go ahead, take your time, i would be most intriged to know of one

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