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Sun 04/09/05 at 20:22
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Qualifying: Alonso in the best place for late Championship charge
Race: Is the Championship in the bag?

Fernando Alonso took pole position in wet conditions, his 6th career pole position and the 3rd time this season, all in the last 5 races. Alonso sits a tantalising 17 points behind Pizzonia and 10 points here could give him a chance to fight for the title once again.

Joining him on the front row is Montoya, who has seen his Championship challenge fade, but is still in the race for the title. 3rd on the grid is Michael Schumacher, out of the title race but needing the points to avoid another season in last place. Alongside him is Pizzonia, who is in prime position to edge himself away from Barrichello and Fisichella, after they qualified 13th and 20th respectively.

5th is Button and he has had a terrible season this time around after being a regular Championship contender. 6th is Baumgartner, still in the hunt to being the first driver to defend his title. 7th is Raikkonen, getting used to having average seasons in the McLaren and 8th is Firman, which is good news for his Championship challenge and Jordan's hopes of taking the Constructors Championship.

Full Qualifying Results:

1st Alonso (Jules) 1m45.540s
2nd Montoya (Afrojoe) 1m45.894s - (+0.354s)
3rd M Schumacher (Vampyr) 1m46.204s - (+0.664s)
4th Pizzonia (Icarus) 1m46.227s - (+0.687s)
5th Button (Der Nazi) 1m46.249s - (+0.709s)
6th Baumgartner (Grandprix) 1m46.295s - (+0.755s)
7th Raikkonen (Ineedsleep) 1m46.345s - (+0.805s)
8th Firman (Notorious Biggles) 1m46.347s - (+0.807s)
9th Verstappen (Jae) 1m46.390s - (+0.850s)
10th Sato (Poopots) 1m46.431s - (+0.891s)
11th Salo (Biggie Little) 1m46.539s - (+0.999s)
12th Karthikeyan (Ortega) 1m46.635s - (+1.095s)
13th Barrichello (Lipe) 1m46.649s - (+1.109s)
14th De La Rosa (Virtuoso) 1m46.750s - (+1.210s)
15th Pantano (Chris) 1m46.768s - (+1.228s)
16th R Schumacher (Clazon) 1m46.822s - (+1.282s)
17th Heidfeld (Shadow) 1m46.840s - (+1.300s)
18th Villeneuve (Mike Swade) 1m46.934s - (+1.394s)
19th Webber (Shelljed) 1m47.012s - (+1.472s)
20th Fisichella (Badgerman) 1m47.028s - (+1.488s)
21st Panis (Foreman) 1m47.124s - (+1.584s)
22nd Klien (Figo) 1m47.276s - (+1.736s)

So, after the 4th wet qualifying in 4 years of SR F1, it was race time and the conditions were just as bad, at some points worse than qualifying. The race got underway and the key thing off the line was to stay on the track. Alonso held onto the lead off the line and with a few minor changes, everyone managed to get through the first lap.

However, it was lap 3 when it all kicked off. Michael Schumacher in 3rd place spins off the track and crashes out, leaving him to ponder whether he'll have a drive next season. That same lap also saw Alonso surrender the lead after an error and Montoya now led.

Onto lap 4 and Montoya throws away the lead handing it on a plate to Championship leader Pizzonia and Montoya slipped to the back. Salo was retirement number 2 when he crashed off camera on lap 4. Button made it 3 on lap 5 when he smashed into the tyre barriers.

The retirements kept coming as Baumgartner's engine blew on lap 7, seriously denting his Championship challenge. Raikkonen was next out when he suffered electrical problems on lap 9 whilst in the points. Also out on lap 9 was Panis with transmission problems, really struggling after his Championship year in 2002.

Pizzonia still had the lead as he saw another Championship contenders race end, but this time he wouldn't have wanted to see it happen. Barrichello developed a throttle problem and managed to stop the car before causing a potentially dangerous accident on lap 18. This was obviously not good news for Renault.

7 retirements became 8 when Heidfeld crashed out on lap 21. 8 then became 9 as Ralf Schumacher retired with an engine problem on lap 31. That same lap saw Verstappen overtake Pizzonia to take the lead and give hope to the Championship chasers.

De La Rosa made it 10 retirements in the race when his car developed an oil fire on 38. The race was on as Verstappen, Pizzonia and Alonso were fighting for the top 3 places and trying to keep their cars on the road. Verstappen was pulling away only for a slight mistake closing the gap once again. Alonso overtook Pizzonia for 2nd but a mistake let him back through but Pizzonia then threw that away to give Alonso 2nd again.

It was heartbreak for yet another Championship challenger as Fisichella, driving in a credible 5th place, saw his engine blow on lap 48, only 3 laps from the end.

Would that be crucial for the Championship? We don't know yet but the race finished with Verstappen taking career win number 2 and his 1st of 2005. He kept his cool and held off Alonso, who takes 2nd place. Pizzonia takes the final podium place for 3rd and with his main challengers both failing to finish, let alone score points, he must now be favourite to win his 1st World Championship.

4th was Karthikeyan, which takes him off the bottom of the table. 5th was Montoya, who will be kicking himself for what could have been potential victory. Klien survived the wreckage to come from last on the grid to 6th, Sato takes 7th for the 2nd race in a row and Villeneuve's scrappy afternoon somehow turned itself into a point for 8th. Only 11 cars finished.

Full Race Results:

1st Verstappen (Jae) 1h35m13.313s - (Up 8)
2nd Alonso (Jules) +3.222s - (Down 1)
3rd Pizzonia (Icarus) +4.879s - (Up 1)
4th Karthikeyan (Ortega) +25.297s - (Up 8)
5th Montoya (Afrojoe) +37.328s - (Down 3)
6th Klien (Figo) +43.416s - (Up 16)
7th Sato (Poopots) +1m02.941s - (Up 3)
8th Villeneuve (Mike Swade) +1m05.115s - (Up 10)
9th Pantano (Chris) +1m06.257s - (Up 6)
10th Firman (Notorious Biggles) +1m26.473s - (Down 2)
11th Webber (Shelljed) +1m29.504s - (Up 8)

DNF

Fisichella (Badgerman) Engine
De La Rosa (Virtuoso) Oil Fire
R Schumacher (Clazon) Engine
Heidfeld (Shadow) Crashed
Barrichello (Lipe) Throttle
Panis (Foreman) Transmission
Raikkonen (Ineedsleep) Electrical
Baumgartner (Grandprix) Engine
Button (Der Nazi) Crashed
Salo (Biggie Little) Crashed
M Schumacher (Vampyr) Crashed

Drivers Championship (Names in bold cannot win the Championship)

1st Pizzonia 57pts
2= Barrichello 44pts
2= Fisichella 44pts
4th Alonso 42pts - (Up 1)
5th Baumgartner 40pts - (Down 1)
6th Montoya 37pts
7th Firman 33pts - (Down 1)
8= Verstappen 30pts - (Up 8)
8= Pantano 30pts
8= Heidfeld 30pts
8= Webber 30pts
12th R Schumacher 29pts - (Down 1)
13th Raikkonen 28pts - (Down 1)
14= Villeneuve 27pts
14= Salo 27pts - (Down 1)
16th De La Rosa 24pts - (Down 1)
17th Klien 22pts
18= Karthikeyan 19pts - (Up 4)
18= Button 19pts - (Down 1)
20th Sato 18pts
21st Panis 17pts - (Down 2)
22nd M Schumacher 16pts - (Down 2)

Constructors Championship (Teams in bold cannot win the Championship)

1st Renault 101pts
2nd Jordan 77pts
3= Minardi 70pts - (Up 1)
3= McLaren 70pts
5th Williams 55pts - (Up 1)
6th Sauber 52pts
7th MG F1 51pts - (Down 2)
8= B.A.R 49pts - (Down 2)
8= Red Bull 49pts - (Up 2)
10th Toyota 46pts - (Down 1)
11th Ferrari 43pts

Fastest Lap: Alonso - 1m44.098s

PREDICTION WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

7 predictors this week so the points system this time around is 10 for 1st, 8 for 2nd, 6 for 3rd, 5 for 4th, 4 for 5th, 3 for 6th, 2 for 7th and a bonus point for being closest to the tie breaker. Here are the results:

1st Chris 10pts (19pts - +9.536s)
2nd Shadow 8pts (17pts - +10.281s)
3rd Shelljed 6pts (17pts)
4th Ineedsleep 5pts (15pts - +10.572s)
5th Badgerman 4pts (9pts - +10.219s)
6th Biggie Little 3pts (7pts - +10.113s)
7th Foreman 2pt + 1pt (6pts - +9.107s) - THE CLOSEST

The table looks like this after Round 17: (Names in bold cannot win the Championship)

1st Chris 104pts (6 wins)
2nd Shadow 96pts (3 wins)
3rd Ineedsleep 78pts (2 wins)
4th Shelljed 74pts (3 wins)
5th Badgerman 66pts (1 win)
6th Jae 59pts (2 wins)
7th Icarus 33pts
8th Biggie Little 23pts
9th Foreman 22pts
10th Jules 12pts
11= Notorious Biggles 5pts
11= Clazon 5pts
13th Shrimper 2pts

Only 2 rounds remain. That leaves a maximum of 20 points for the drivers and predictors to fight over and 36 maximum for the Constructors.

Pizzonia's 6 points eliminated 9 drivers and now only 6 have a mathematical chance of becoming World Champion. Failure to score enough points at Round 18 for 5 of the 6 drivers could see the Championship land into Pizzonia's camp. Only 4 teams can now win the Constructors Championship but the odds heavily favour Renault now and it will be a successful defense of their title. In the Prediction Championship, it's down to just 2, with Chris 8 points ahead of Shadow. 2 points more than Shadow in the next round will see Chris take the title.

The results of the poll was:

Britain - Round 18 - Wet
Monaco - Round 19 - Wet

That means that Silverstone is the next race and it will be wet conditions for both qualifying and race.

Here are the list of drivers and teams required for the predictions: [URL]http://www.freewebs.com/gpsr/srf1.htm[/URL]

PREDICTION DEADLINE: 14th SEPTEMBER

PLEASE CHECK YOUR PREDICTIONS FOR ERRORS AS IT CAN LOSE YOU POINTS!

Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th

Which driver will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th

TIE BREAKER: What will be the fastest qualifying lap? (The lap record is 1m20.361s but you will need to account for the weather.)

We could be crowning new champions after Round 18!

Thanks for reading!
Thu 15/09/05 at 01:14
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Foreman wrote:
> Are you ready for a thrashing again DW in the League Cup.
>
> =D

:-|

I was gonna go to watch us get revenge but sadly I have no way of getting home. :-(

Oh well...lets go Firm-man. :-[
Thu 15/09/05 at 00:37
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"es argh"
Posts: 4,729
Oh poor Fisichella.

If Pizzonia gets 7 points from his next 2 races then it's over.

Fisi is 13 behind which, I think, means I have to get second and third place in the remaining races. That's also as long as Pizzonia doesn't score any more.

Oh well.
Wed 14/09/05 at 12:13
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"Going nowhere fast"
Posts: 6,574
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Raikkonen

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

McLaren

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Sato

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

MG F1

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)

1st Alonso
2nd Firman
3rd Raikkonen
4th Montoya
5th Heidfeld
6th Villeneuve
7th Baumgartner
8th Panis

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

M Schumacher

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Jordan

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Montoya

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

Pantano

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)

1st Raikkonen
2nd Montoya
3rd Heidfeld
4th Baumgartner
5th Firman
6th Fisichella
7th Alonso
8th Verstappen

TIE BREAKER: 1m24.321s
Wed 14/09/05 at 09:48
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Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)
Alonso

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)
Renault

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)
Panis

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)
Toyota

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)
1st Heidfeld
2nd Montoya
3rd Barrichello
4th Pizzonia
5th Baumgartner
6th Fisichella
7th Raikkonen
8th Klien

Which driver will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)
Heidfeld


Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)
Renault

Who will win the race? (12 points)
Montoya

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)
Raikkonen

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)
1st Baumgartner
2nd Alonso
3rd Fisichella
4th Montoya
5th Pizzonia
6th Heidfeld
7th Barrichello
8th Raikkonen

TIE BREAKER: What will be the fastest qualifying lap? (The lap record
is 1m20.361s but you will need to account for the weather.)

1m27.143s
Wed 14/09/05 at 09:03
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"Baros!!!"
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Are you ready for a thrashing again DW in the League Cup.

=D
Tue 13/09/05 at 23:40
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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Unfortunately not DW, but you'll always be Firman in spirit.
Tue 13/09/05 at 23:35
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Am I still Firman?
Tue 13/09/05 at 21:58
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"Too Orangy For Crow"
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The plan was to get the results up for Wednesday but my trip to Silverstone today means my schedule is slightly behind. Hopefully, I won't have any problems and the results will be up on Wednesday around late evening time.

These are Shelljed's predictions until further notice

Who will qualify in pole position? Karthikeyan (10 points)

Which team will qualify in pole position? Red Bull (5 points)

Who will be last on the grid? Klien (10 points)

Which team will be last on the grid? Red Bull (5 points)

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Karthikeyan
2nd M Schumacher
3rd Barrichello
4th Raikkonen
5th Salo
6th Panis
7th Montoya
8th R Schumacher

Who will make up the most positions in the race? Karthikeyan (8 points)

Which team will score the most points in the race? Ferrari (5 points)

Who will win the race? Webber (12 points)

Who will be the first retirement? Heidfeld (10 points)

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Webber
2nd Alonso
3rd Raikkonen
4th Pizzonia
5th M Schumacher
6th Barrichello
7th Panis
8th R Schumacher
Tue 13/09/05 at 15:03
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"es argh"
Posts: 4,729
Fecking come on Fisichella

Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)
Fisichella

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)
Jordan

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)
Pizzonia

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)
Renault

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Fisichella
2nd Firman
3rd Button
4th Panis
5th R Schumacher
6th Barrichello
7th Montoya
8th Baumgartner

Which driver will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)
Villeneuve

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)
Jordan

Who will win the race? (12 points)
Fisichella

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)
Pizzonia

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Fisichella
2nd Firman
3rd Montoya
4th Alonso
5th Button
6th Baumgartner
7th Raikonnen
8th Sato

TIE BREAKER: What will be the fastest qualifying lap? (The lap record is 1m20.361s but you will need to account for the weather.)

1m25.874s
Wed 07/09/05 at 16:32
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"sdomehtongng"
Posts: 23,695
First time Montoya has picked up points in this in a long time, as far as I can remember.

Was hoping after 2nd in qualification, though, things could have been better in the race. :-(

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