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Wed 24/08/05 at 23:52
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Qualifying: Pantano in control in tricky conditions
Race: Villeneuve gives Ferrari something to cheer about

Giorgio Pantano took pole position for the USA Grand Prix in wet and changeable conditions. Pantano is only 21 points behind Pizzonia and his 2nd career pole position will give him hope of taking the Championship. Funnily enough, Pantano's only other pole position was here in the USA last year.

Pantano shares the front row with Villeneuve in the Ferrari. Ferrari sit at the bottom of the Championship but 3rd for Michael Schumacher in the last race and the driver with the most wins in SR F1 history sitting on the front row must be a sign that things might be changing.

3rd is Mark Webber alongside the man of the 2nd half of the season, Heidfeld. Button has to win every race from here to the end of the season to stand any chance of winning the Championship and he starts 5th. Alonso's great form continues with 6th on the grid. Minardi lock out the 4th row with Verstappen in 7th and Baumgartner in 8th.

Barrichello has the slight advantage over his teammate, as he starts 10th. Pizzonia won't be too worried though as Fisichella starts 20th and Firman starts 22nd, meaning good news for Renault. Pizzonia will start 13th.

Full Qualifying Results:

1st Pantano (Chris) 1m22.122s
2nd Villeneuve (Mike Swade) 1m22.248s - (+0.126s)
3rd Webber (Shelljed) 1m22.497s - (+0.357s)
4th Heidfeld (Shadow) 1m22.761s - (+0.639s)
5th Button (Der Nazi) 1m22.763s - (+0.641s)
6th Alonso (Jules) 1m22.935s - (+0.813s)
7th Verstappen (Jae) 1m22.967s - (+0.845s)
8th Baumgartner (Grandprix) 1m22.976s - (+0.854s)
9th Panis (Foreman) 1m23.019s - (+0.897s)
10th Barrichello (Lipe) 1m23.086s - (+0.964s)
11th Salo (Biggie Little) 1m23.118s - (+0.996s)
12th Klien (Figo) 1m23.129s - (+1.007s)
13th Pizzonia (Icarus) 1m23.187s - (+1.065s)
14th Montoya (Afrojoe) 1m23.246s - (+1.124s)
15th Raikkonen (Ineedsleep) 1m23.286s - (+1.164s)
16th De La Rosa (Virtuoso) 1m23.304s - (+1.182s)
17th R Schumacher (Clazon) 1m23.378s - (+1.256s)
18th Sato (Poopots) 1m23.407s - (+1.285s)
19th M Schumacher (Vampyr) 1m23.467s - (+1.345s)
20th Fisichella (Badgerman) 1m23.478s - (+1.356s)
21st Karthikeyan (Ortega) 1m23.566s - (+1.444s)
22nd Firman (Notorious Biggles) 1m28.534s - (+6.412s)

So, the tension is beginning to mount as I'm certain that we will be starting to lose drivers who can win the Drivers Championship at the end of this round and the destination of the title becomes a bit clearer.

The race is go in perfect racing conditions and Villeneuve gets the lead from Pantano off the start and starts to scamper away with Pantano struggling for pace with a high fuel load. Everyone was on their best behaviour for the first 20 laps, with only a few potential accidents averted and the locking of brakes on occasion.

However, on lap 21, Pantano and Barrichello were battling for 3rd place. Barrichello got alongside and had the inside into turn 1. Pantano tried to fend him off but pushed too hard and spun. It left him wide open on the track and Heidfeld was the unlucky one as he ploughed into Pantano. Verstappen also crashed into Pantano. Amazingly, Pantano survived but his race for points was over as he needed a new front wing. Verstappen needed a new front wing too but Heidfeld had broken suspension and a damaged wheel and his race was over.

This was indeed a bizarre race as there was no incidents at all for over 40 laps. Everyone got through their pit stops cleanly and the race was on for the line. Villeneuve had a comfortable lead at this point and Barrichello was getting held up in 4th place.

Onto lap 69, 4 laps to go, De La Rosa retired with a transmission problem but he wasn't on for any points. Barrichello easily had the fastest car at this point and he easily worked his way into 3rd at the expense of Baumgartner. Villeneuve was just beginning to cruise at this point.

Final lap and Verstappen, not going to score any points after his front wing change, retired with left front wheel damage. This just left the race to the line and it was Villeneuve that came through to win, controlling the race and holding off Button in 2nd with a comfortable margin.

Villeneuve's victory is his first of the season, his 7th in his career (2 more than anyone else) and only Ferrari's 2nd ever victory. Button's valiant attempt to keep his Championship hopes alive have been snuffed out by his failure to win but 2nd place here takes him off the bottom of the Drivers Championship.

3rd place was Barrichello, who now ties with Fisichella for 2nd in the Drivers Championship and puts real pressure on his teammate Pizzonia, who scored no points. 4th was Baumgartner and he has a chance of retaining the Championship, as he is now 11 points behind Pizzonia with 3 rounds to go. 5th was Webber and Alonso edges a bit nearer with 6th. Sato scores a couple of points for 7th but he is now out of the Championship race. Salo completes the top 8.

Full Race Results:

1st Villeneuve (Mike Swade) 1h28m56.118s (Up 1)
2nd Button (Der Nazi) +3.367s (Up 3)
3rd Barrichello (Lipe) +10.988s (Up 7)
4th Baumgartner (Grandprix) +16.004s (Up 4)
5th Webber (Shelljed) +19.284s (Down 2)
6th Alonso (Jules) +22.351s (No Change)
7th Sato (Poopots) +32.855s (Up 11)
8th Salo (Biggie Little) +36.743s (Up 3)
9th Klien (Figo) +38.080s (Up 3)
10th Pizzonia (Icarus) +39.020s (Up 3)
11th Karthikeyan (Ortega) +40.753s (Up 10)
12th Fisichella (Badgerman) +41.946s (Up 8)
13th Montoya (Afrojoe) +48.395s (Up 1)
14th M Schumacher (Vampyr) +51.520s (Up 5)
15th Firman (Notorious Biggles) +52.475s (Up 7)
16th Raikkonen (Ineedsleep) +56.628s (Down 1)
17th Panis (Foreman) +1m06.356s (Down 8)
18th R Schumacher (Clazon) +1m08.280s (Down 1)
19th Verstappen (Jae) -1lap (Down 12)
20th Pantano (Chris) -1lap (Down 19)
21st De La Rosa (Virtuoso) -4laps (Down 5)

DNF

Heidfeld (Shadow) Accident

Drivers Championship (Names in bold cannot win the Championship)

1st Pizzonia 51pts
2= Fisichella 44pts
2= Barrichello 44pts - (Up 1)
4th Baumgartner 40pts
5th Alonso 34pts - (Up 2)
6= Montoya 33pts - (Down 1)
6= Firman 33pts - (Down 1)
8- Webber 30pts - (Up 4)
8= Pantano 30pts
8= Heidfeld 30pts
11th R Schumacher 29pts - (Down 1)
12th Raikkonen 28pts - (Down 1)
13th Salo 27pts - (Down 1)
14th Villeneuve 26pts - (Up 4)
15th De La Rosa 24pts - (Down 1)
16th Verstappen 20pts - (Down 1)
17= Klien 19pts - (Down 1)
17= Button 19pts - (Up 5)
19th Panis 17pts - (Down 2)
20= M Schumacher 16pts - (Down 2)
20= Sato 16pts
22nd Karthikeyan 14pts - (Down 2)

Constructors Championship (Teams in bold cannot win the Championship)

1st Renault 95pts
2nd Jordan 77pts
3rd McLaren 62pts
4th Minardi 60pts
5th MG F1 51pts
6= Sauber 49pts
6= Williams 49pts - (Up 1)
6= B.A.R 49pts - (Up 3)
9th Toyota 46pts - (Down 1)
10th Red Bull 44pts
11th Ferrari 42pts

Fastest Lap: Barrichello - 1m12.594s - LAP RECORD

PREDICTION WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

8 predictors this time so it's the standard points system of 10 for 1st, 8 for 2nd, 6 for 3rd, 5 for 4th, 4 for 5th, 3 for 6th, 2 for 7th and 1 for 8th. No bonus points for the tie breaker. Here are the results:

1st Shelljed 10pts (18pts)
2nd Shadow 8pts (15pts - +10.310s)
3rd Biggie Little 6pts (12pts - +9.902s)
4th Foreman 5pts (8pts - +10.133s)
5th Ineedsleep 4pts (8pts - +11.001s)
6th Chris 3pts (7pts - +10.090s)
7th Shrimper 2pts (7pts - +10.433s)
8th Badgerman 1pt (6pts - +10.683s)

The table looks like this after Round 16: (Names in bold cannot win the Championship)

1st Chris 94pts (5 wins)
2nd Shadow 88pts (3 wins)
3rd Ineedsleep 73pts (2 wins)
4th Shelljed 68pts (3 wins) - (Up 1)
5th Badgerman 62pts (1 win) - (Down 1)
6th Jae 59pts (2 wins)
7th Icarus 33pts
8th Biggie Little 20pts
9th Foreman 19pts
10th Jules 12pts
11= Notorious Biggles 5pts
11= Clazon 5pts
13th Shrimper 2pts

Round 16 of 19 completed, 3 to go and we are no nearer to finding out the destination of the Championship but we have lost a number of drivers and predictors. 7 of the 22 drivers can no longer win the Drivers Championship and all but 4 predictors remain in the Prediction Championship race. All the teams in the Constructors Championship are in the race, just about.

Pizzonia remains in front but there are now 2 drivers just 7 points away from him. Renault push the gap between them and Jordan back to 18 points from 12 points with Barrichello's 3rd place and Chris is now just 6 points ahead of Shadow, which was 11 before this round.

Round 17 is in Japan and that leaves just 30 points for both the drivers and the predictors to fight for. Only 54 points remain for the teams in the Constructors Championship.

Here are the list of drivers and teams required for the predictions: [URL]http://www.freewebs.com/gpsr/srf1.htm[/URL]

PREDICTION DEADLINE: 4th SEPTEMBER

PLEASE CHECK YOUR PREDICTIONS FOR ERRORS AS IT CAN LOSE YOU POINTS!

Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th

Which driver will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th

TIE BREAKER: What will be the fastest race lap? (The lap record is 1m33.911s)

The results of the Round 18 and 19 poll are as follows:

Britain - 6
Monaco - 5
Belgium - 2
Italy - 1
Japan - 1
Europe - 1

That means Britain and Monaco will be rounds 18 and 19.

SELECT ROUND 18 AND ROUND 19 AND ALSO VOTE FOR THE WEATHER CONDITIONS

EXAMPLE:

Monaco - Round 18 - Wet
Britain - Round 19 - Dry

Thanks for reading!
Thu 25/08/05 at 19:44
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"Better Than You"
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MGF1 to qualify in both pole and last positione eh biggie?

Just do my predictions now too.
Thu 25/08/05 at 19:58
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"Better Than You"
Posts: 5,204
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Pizzonia

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

Renault

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Karthikeyan

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

Red Bull Racing

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Pizzonia
2nd Firman
3rd Barichello
4th Fisichella
5th Alonso
6th Montayo
7th Pantano
8th R Schumacher

Which driver will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Heidfield

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Renault

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Pizzonia

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

M Schumacher

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Pizzonia
2nd Barichello
3rd Fisichella
4th Firman
5th Montayo
6th Pantano
7th Heidfield
8th Alonso

TIE BREAKER: What will be the fastest race lap? (The lap record is 1m33.911s)

1m34.562s


Round 18 - Britain - Wet
Round 19 - Monaco - Sunny
Thu 25/08/05 at 23:37
Regular
"es argh"
Posts: 4,729
Bah.

Predictions up later
Mon 29/08/05 at 20:21
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POP

Lost your MSN Matty. Any chance you can add me: [email protected]
Wed 31/08/05 at 19:03
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Another bad race for Verstappen... Bah...
Fri 02/09/05 at 16:58
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Posts: 15,844
Predictions in for Sunday, as the results should be up by then. If you are using this prediction set as a guide, remember the tie breaker!

These are Shelljed's predictions until further notice

Who will qualify in pole position? Karthikeyan (10 points)

Which team will qualify in pole position? Red Bull (5 points)

Who will be last on the grid? Klien (10 points)

Which team will be last on the grid? Red Bull (5 points)

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Karthikeyan
2nd M Schumacher
3rd Barrichello
4th Raikkonen
5th Salo
6th Panis
7th Montoya
8th R Schumacher

Who will make up the most positions in the race? Karthikeyan (8 points)

Which team will score the most points in the race? Ferrari (5 points)

Who will win the race? Webber (12 points)

Who will be the first retirement? Heidfeld (10 points)

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Webber
2nd Alonso
3rd Raikkonen
4th Pizzonia
5th M Schumacher
6th Barrichello
7th Panis
8th R Schumacher
Fri 02/09/05 at 17:30
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Posts: 6,094
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)
Alonso

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)
Jordan

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)
Heidfeld

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)
Red Bull

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)
1st Pizzonia
2nd Pantano
3rd Fisichella
4th Montoya
5th Heidfeld
6th Raikkonen
7th Baumgartner
8th Alonso

Which driver will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)
Heidfield

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)
Renault

Who will win the race? (12 points)
Heidfeld

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)
Webber

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)
1st Barrichello
2nd Firman
3rd Fisichella
4th Heidfeld
5th Pizzonia
6th Pantano
7th Alonso
8th Raikkonen

TIE BREAKER: What will be the fastest race lap? (The lap record is
1m33.911s)

1m33.817s

Round 18 - Britain - Wet
Round 19 - Monaco - Wet
Fri 02/09/05 at 17:31
Regular
Posts: 6,094
Chris - You have forgot to put down which team will be last on the grid.
Fri 02/09/05 at 17:42
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"Going nowhere fast"
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How gentlemanly of you, especially in light of the fact that you need him to score less not more than you :)
Fri 02/09/05 at 17:46
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"Going nowhere fast"
Posts: 6,574
.. and a nice *pop* for me to get my predictions in with days, not hours, to spare :D

Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Raikkonen

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

McLaren

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Sato

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

MG F1

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)

1st Alonso
2nd Firman
3rd Raikkonen
4th Montoya
5th Heidfeld
6th Villeneuve
7th Baumgartner
8th Panis

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

M Schumacher

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Jordan

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Montoya

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

Pantano

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)

1st Raikkonen
2nd Montoya
3rd Heidfeld
4th Baumgartner
5th Firman
6th Fisichella
7th Alonso
8th Verstappen

TIE BREAKER: 1m33.526s

EDIT: Final two races - wet

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