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Personally, being a huge movie fan, I believe that movies were better in the 70’s.
Not for every single movie made, but I would say 8/10 it’s true.
Why?
Well, for a start, it wasn’t all about money, there was still a vestige of art to it.
Look at the classic movies from the 70’s and point out one summer blockbuster.
Star Wars? That was just a little sci-fi flick when it came out, it was only a few months afterwards that it turned into this monstrous entity it is today.
There weren’t really “event” movies, because the notion of movies as money hadn’t been truly taken for granted.
Classic 70’s movies that wouldn’t get made today:
The French Connection – Too downbeat, not enough pizzazz to make it worthwhile. (incidentally, the car chase was filmed for real. The director William Freidken didn’t have permissions to film, so he sat in the back with a stunt-driver and they just went for it. Those cars are REALLY just being missed…astonishing)
Dog Day Afternoon – All the main characters die? Except for Al Pacino, who gets arrested? Wouldn’t happen today, listen to the Se7en DVD commentary for the battle they had to get that made, even with Pitt, Freeman and Fincher on board.
The Taking of Pelham 123 – A film about criminals, all known by colours? Mr White, Mr Blue…that wouldn’t happen now…(ok, I know, I know)
What I’m trying to say is that they took risks back then, not like today.
Even the stars took roles that were less than heroic in every single picture they made.
Robert Shaw made a career out of being a villain, but also noble and heroic (Jaws, Guns of Naverone etc).
Clint Eastwood, he used to be risky. Dirty Harry was anti-authority, shooting suspects whilst in custody, not like now.
Burt Reynolds, one of the biggest 70’s stars frequently took nasty roles. (Gator he’s an alcoholic womaniser, Mean Machine he is arrested for beating his girlfriend).
All these guys and many more took chances, didn’t always play the same character type because the audience wasn’t treated as a moron stepchild, unlike today.
How many times has Bruce Willis played an evil dude?
Or Stallone?
Few actors seem willing to take risky roles these days in case it “hurts box office”.
I respect Brad Pitt since I’ve seen him in Se7en, 12 Monkeys, Kalifornia, Fight Club etc because he isn’t just a pretty face that demands close-ups and saves the woman.
He’s not afraid to get dirty and be nasty.
More power to him I say.
And do we ignore his movies? Well…yes. At least the ones where he’s not Brad Pitt: Movie Hunk we do.
Fight Club, a brave, fantastic and audacious attack and comment on 90s male mindsets.
And it bombed. Why? Because it was different, it took chances, it made you think.
A lot of films from the 70’s did this.
Now, we have The Mummy Returns and Pearl Harbour – Everything is spoon-fed to us with “These are the good guys, they will win in the end” or “This is a bad guy, he will lose. Sit back and eat your popcorn, don’t think”.
And if you deviate from this formula? Your film will not do massive business.
Oh, it will be respected and admired by critics and some fans, but as a rule? You lose the big bucks, hence smaller movies are the only ones to really trying to say anything valid anymore.
I feel cinema has, largely, lost it’s claim as an “artform”.
More often that not, it’s entertainment and nothing else.
Which is fine, but why are they all so mindless?
“Well, it’s what people want.” No it isn’t, if blubber is the only thing served on the artic buffet, that’s all we’ll eat.
Doesn’t mean we’ll like it, but there isn’t much else to choose from.
I love The Coen Bros, their films don’t make money but they are one of the most fiercely original filmmakers out there and I pray they are allowed to continue for many years to come.
People just don’t make the effort to seek out films that aren’t advertised on burger wrappers any more.
“The Matrix”, a fantastic film. But how many people can honestly say that they saw the debut from The Wachowski Bros “Bound” before it was repackaged with “From the creators of The Matrix” all over the box?
Exactly – 3 of us did.
Why? It’s a brilliant, brilliant movie. A lesbian mafia thriller.
There, NOW you want to see it don’t you?
Good. Go rent it, go buy a Coen Bros film.
Get out there and read Time Out and Empire, visit aint-it-cool.com, find these little gems for yourself
There are so many wonderful films waiting for you to discover, you just have to spend 10 minutes looking for them.
Trust me, it’ll be worth it.
Not for every single movie made, but I would say 8/10 it’s true.
Why?
Well, for a start, it wasn’t all about money, there was still a vestige of art to it.
Look at the classic movies from the 70’s and point out one summer blockbuster.
Star Wars? That was just a little sci-fi flick when it came out, it was only a few months afterwards that it turned into this monstrous entity it is today.
There weren’t really “event” movies, because the notion of movies as money hadn’t been truly taken for granted.
Classic 70’s movies that wouldn’t get made today:
The French Connection – Too downbeat, not enough pizzazz to make it worthwhile. (incidentally, the car chase was filmed for real. The director William Freidken didn’t have permissions to film, so he sat in the back with a stunt-driver and they just went for it. Those cars are REALLY just being missed…astonishing)
Dog Day Afternoon – All the main characters die? Except for Al Pacino, who gets arrested? Wouldn’t happen today, listen to the Se7en DVD commentary for the battle they had to get that made, even with Pitt, Freeman and Fincher on board.
The Taking of Pelham 123 – A film about criminals, all known by colours? Mr White, Mr Blue…that wouldn’t happen now…(ok, I know, I know)
What I’m trying to say is that they took risks back then, not like today.
Even the stars took roles that were less than heroic in every single picture they made.
Robert Shaw made a career out of being a villain, but also noble and heroic (Jaws, Guns of Naverone etc).
Clint Eastwood, he used to be risky. Dirty Harry was anti-authority, shooting suspects whilst in custody, not like now.
Burt Reynolds, one of the biggest 70’s stars frequently took nasty roles. (Gator he’s an alcoholic womaniser, Mean Machine he is arrested for beating his girlfriend).
All these guys and many more took chances, didn’t always play the same character type because the audience wasn’t treated as a moron stepchild, unlike today.
How many times has Bruce Willis played an evil dude?
Or Stallone?
Few actors seem willing to take risky roles these days in case it “hurts box office”.
I respect Brad Pitt since I’ve seen him in Se7en, 12 Monkeys, Kalifornia, Fight Club etc because he isn’t just a pretty face that demands close-ups and saves the woman.
He’s not afraid to get dirty and be nasty.
More power to him I say.
And do we ignore his movies? Well…yes. At least the ones where he’s not Brad Pitt: Movie Hunk we do.
Fight Club, a brave, fantastic and audacious attack and comment on 90s male mindsets.
And it bombed. Why? Because it was different, it took chances, it made you think.
A lot of films from the 70’s did this.
Now, we have The Mummy Returns and Pearl Harbour – Everything is spoon-fed to us with “These are the good guys, they will win in the end” or “This is a bad guy, he will lose. Sit back and eat your popcorn, don’t think”.
And if you deviate from this formula? Your film will not do massive business.
Oh, it will be respected and admired by critics and some fans, but as a rule? You lose the big bucks, hence smaller movies are the only ones to really trying to say anything valid anymore.
I feel cinema has, largely, lost it’s claim as an “artform”.
More often that not, it’s entertainment and nothing else.
Which is fine, but why are they all so mindless?
“Well, it’s what people want.” No it isn’t, if blubber is the only thing served on the artic buffet, that’s all we’ll eat.
Doesn’t mean we’ll like it, but there isn’t much else to choose from.
I love The Coen Bros, their films don’t make money but they are one of the most fiercely original filmmakers out there and I pray they are allowed to continue for many years to come.
People just don’t make the effort to seek out films that aren’t advertised on burger wrappers any more.
“The Matrix”, a fantastic film. But how many people can honestly say that they saw the debut from The Wachowski Bros “Bound” before it was repackaged with “From the creators of The Matrix” all over the box?
Exactly – 3 of us did.
Why? It’s a brilliant, brilliant movie. A lesbian mafia thriller.
There, NOW you want to see it don’t you?
Good. Go rent it, go buy a Coen Bros film.
Get out there and read Time Out and Empire, visit aint-it-cool.com, find these little gems for yourself
There are so many wonderful films waiting for you to discover, you just have to spend 10 minutes looking for them.
Trust me, it’ll be worth it.
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I've been dying to see what films you actually DID like Goatboy... :0)
And I have to say, you've got very good taste. I did manage to see Bound before I saw the Matrix though. :0)
Fight Club bombed? Not sure. Bad reviews from the "Daily Mail" and other 'in their own little world' reads, but certainly a classic in my eye... and not many people I know haven't seen it.
I've been meaning to see the French Connection for a while... but I've never heard of Dog Day Afternoon before today. I shall make that my quest to hunt down and watch this film. Consider this great topic to have changed my life. :0)
And I have to say, you've got very good taste. I did manage to see Bound before I saw the Matrix though. :0)
Fight Club bombed? Not sure. Bad reviews from the "Daily Mail" and other 'in their own little world' reads, but certainly a classic in my eye... and not many people I know haven't seen it.
I've been meaning to see the French Connection for a while... but I've never heard of Dog Day Afternoon before today. I shall make that my quest to hunt down and watch this film. Consider this great topic to have changed my life. :0)
Personally, being a huge movie fan, I believe that movies were better in the 70’s.
Not for every single movie made, but I would say 8/10 it’s true.
Why?
Well, for a start, it wasn’t all about money, there was still a vestige of art to it.
Look at the classic movies from the 70’s and point out one summer blockbuster.
Star Wars? That was just a little sci-fi flick when it came out, it was only a few months afterwards that it turned into this monstrous entity it is today.
There weren’t really “event” movies, because the notion of movies as money hadn’t been truly taken for granted.
Classic 70’s movies that wouldn’t get made today:
The French Connection – Too downbeat, not enough pizzazz to make it worthwhile. (incidentally, the car chase was filmed for real. The director William Freidken didn’t have permissions to film, so he sat in the back with a stunt-driver and they just went for it. Those cars are REALLY just being missed…astonishing)
Dog Day Afternoon – All the main characters die? Except for Al Pacino, who gets arrested? Wouldn’t happen today, listen to the Se7en DVD commentary for the battle they had to get that made, even with Pitt, Freeman and Fincher on board.
The Taking of Pelham 123 – A film about criminals, all known by colours? Mr White, Mr Blue…that wouldn’t happen now…(ok, I know, I know)
What I’m trying to say is that they took risks back then, not like today.
Even the stars took roles that were less than heroic in every single picture they made.
Robert Shaw made a career out of being a villain, but also noble and heroic (Jaws, Guns of Naverone etc).
Clint Eastwood, he used to be risky. Dirty Harry was anti-authority, shooting suspects whilst in custody, not like now.
Burt Reynolds, one of the biggest 70’s stars frequently took nasty roles. (Gator he’s an alcoholic womaniser, Mean Machine he is arrested for beating his girlfriend).
All these guys and many more took chances, didn’t always play the same character type because the audience wasn’t treated as a moron stepchild, unlike today.
How many times has Bruce Willis played an evil dude?
Or Stallone?
Few actors seem willing to take risky roles these days in case it “hurts box office”.
I respect Brad Pitt since I’ve seen him in Se7en, 12 Monkeys, Kalifornia, Fight Club etc because he isn’t just a pretty face that demands close-ups and saves the woman.
He’s not afraid to get dirty and be nasty.
More power to him I say.
And do we ignore his movies? Well…yes. At least the ones where he’s not Brad Pitt: Movie Hunk we do.
Fight Club, a brave, fantastic and audacious attack and comment on 90s male mindsets.
And it bombed. Why? Because it was different, it took chances, it made you think.
A lot of films from the 70’s did this.
Now, we have The Mummy Returns and Pearl Harbour – Everything is spoon-fed to us with “These are the good guys, they will win in the end” or “This is a bad guy, he will lose. Sit back and eat your popcorn, don’t think”.
And if you deviate from this formula? Your film will not do massive business.
Oh, it will be respected and admired by critics and some fans, but as a rule? You lose the big bucks, hence smaller movies are the only ones to really trying to say anything valid anymore.
I feel cinema has, largely, lost it’s claim as an “artform”.
More often that not, it’s entertainment and nothing else.
Which is fine, but why are they all so mindless?
“Well, it’s what people want.” No it isn’t, if blubber is the only thing served on the artic buffet, that’s all we’ll eat.
Doesn’t mean we’ll like it, but there isn’t much else to choose from.
I love The Coen Bros, their films don’t make money but they are one of the most fiercely original filmmakers out there and I pray they are allowed to continue for many years to come.
People just don’t make the effort to seek out films that aren’t advertised on burger wrappers any more.
“The Matrix”, a fantastic film. But how many people can honestly say that they saw the debut from The Wachowski Bros “Bound” before it was repackaged with “From the creators of The Matrix” all over the box?
Exactly – 3 of us did.
Why? It’s a brilliant, brilliant movie. A lesbian mafia thriller.
There, NOW you want to see it don’t you?
Good. Go rent it, go buy a Coen Bros film.
Get out there and read Time Out and Empire, visit aint-it-cool.com, find these little gems for yourself
There are so many wonderful films waiting for you to discover, you just have to spend 10 minutes looking for them.
Trust me, it’ll be worth it.
Not for every single movie made, but I would say 8/10 it’s true.
Why?
Well, for a start, it wasn’t all about money, there was still a vestige of art to it.
Look at the classic movies from the 70’s and point out one summer blockbuster.
Star Wars? That was just a little sci-fi flick when it came out, it was only a few months afterwards that it turned into this monstrous entity it is today.
There weren’t really “event” movies, because the notion of movies as money hadn’t been truly taken for granted.
Classic 70’s movies that wouldn’t get made today:
The French Connection – Too downbeat, not enough pizzazz to make it worthwhile. (incidentally, the car chase was filmed for real. The director William Freidken didn’t have permissions to film, so he sat in the back with a stunt-driver and they just went for it. Those cars are REALLY just being missed…astonishing)
Dog Day Afternoon – All the main characters die? Except for Al Pacino, who gets arrested? Wouldn’t happen today, listen to the Se7en DVD commentary for the battle they had to get that made, even with Pitt, Freeman and Fincher on board.
The Taking of Pelham 123 – A film about criminals, all known by colours? Mr White, Mr Blue…that wouldn’t happen now…(ok, I know, I know)
What I’m trying to say is that they took risks back then, not like today.
Even the stars took roles that were less than heroic in every single picture they made.
Robert Shaw made a career out of being a villain, but also noble and heroic (Jaws, Guns of Naverone etc).
Clint Eastwood, he used to be risky. Dirty Harry was anti-authority, shooting suspects whilst in custody, not like now.
Burt Reynolds, one of the biggest 70’s stars frequently took nasty roles. (Gator he’s an alcoholic womaniser, Mean Machine he is arrested for beating his girlfriend).
All these guys and many more took chances, didn’t always play the same character type because the audience wasn’t treated as a moron stepchild, unlike today.
How many times has Bruce Willis played an evil dude?
Or Stallone?
Few actors seem willing to take risky roles these days in case it “hurts box office”.
I respect Brad Pitt since I’ve seen him in Se7en, 12 Monkeys, Kalifornia, Fight Club etc because he isn’t just a pretty face that demands close-ups and saves the woman.
He’s not afraid to get dirty and be nasty.
More power to him I say.
And do we ignore his movies? Well…yes. At least the ones where he’s not Brad Pitt: Movie Hunk we do.
Fight Club, a brave, fantastic and audacious attack and comment on 90s male mindsets.
And it bombed. Why? Because it was different, it took chances, it made you think.
A lot of films from the 70’s did this.
Now, we have The Mummy Returns and Pearl Harbour – Everything is spoon-fed to us with “These are the good guys, they will win in the end” or “This is a bad guy, he will lose. Sit back and eat your popcorn, don’t think”.
And if you deviate from this formula? Your film will not do massive business.
Oh, it will be respected and admired by critics and some fans, but as a rule? You lose the big bucks, hence smaller movies are the only ones to really trying to say anything valid anymore.
I feel cinema has, largely, lost it’s claim as an “artform”.
More often that not, it’s entertainment and nothing else.
Which is fine, but why are they all so mindless?
“Well, it’s what people want.” No it isn’t, if blubber is the only thing served on the artic buffet, that’s all we’ll eat.
Doesn’t mean we’ll like it, but there isn’t much else to choose from.
I love The Coen Bros, their films don’t make money but they are one of the most fiercely original filmmakers out there and I pray they are allowed to continue for many years to come.
People just don’t make the effort to seek out films that aren’t advertised on burger wrappers any more.
“The Matrix”, a fantastic film. But how many people can honestly say that they saw the debut from The Wachowski Bros “Bound” before it was repackaged with “From the creators of The Matrix” all over the box?
Exactly – 3 of us did.
Why? It’s a brilliant, brilliant movie. A lesbian mafia thriller.
There, NOW you want to see it don’t you?
Good. Go rent it, go buy a Coen Bros film.
Get out there and read Time Out and Empire, visit aint-it-cool.com, find these little gems for yourself
There are so many wonderful films waiting for you to discover, you just have to spend 10 minutes looking for them.
Trust me, it’ll be worth it.
Page: