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So...the US knew where Bin Laden was, and could have captured him in the Afghan Invasion. But they deliberately allowed him to escape.
But of course, that wasn't so as to maintain the flimsy justification of "Connections to Al-Quaida" to invade Iraq, and you'd be a fool and a communist to suspect that...
So...the US knew where Bin Laden was, and could have captured him in the Afghan Invasion. But they deliberately allowed him to escape.
But of course, that wasn't so as to maintain the flimsy justification of "Connections to Al-Quaida" to invade Iraq, and you'd be a fool and a communist to suspect that...
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Going back to martyrdom, they believe if they kill so many of us that they are met in the garden of Paradise with 72 virgins. Wouldn't it be great for them to be met by 72 angry Virginians?
Seriously though - what a major blooper that was to let him escape.
Seriously though - what a major blooper that was to let him escape.
"Allied Carpet Bombing! Thousands of innocent lives MUST GO!!"
(C) David Baddiel, some time in the early 90's
(C) David Baddiel, some time in the early 90's
Well, they're more than capable of carpet-bombing large areas from the safety of their planes...
Heh. There is more faith in the US intelligence and military shown in this thread than one would find in the whole of the US at the moment...
The title is mis-leading.
The CIA have not admitted this, an ex-employee has made the allegation and no doubt the allegation will shift a few copies of his book.
Hmmmmm.
The CIA have not admitted this, an ex-employee has made the allegation and no doubt the allegation will shift a few copies of his book.
Hmmmmm.
We "deliberately allowed him to escape".
Doesn't that sound just like something Chief Wiggum would say?
I doubt it all. If they though they could get him, I bet they were wrong. People like bin Laden don't just 'die'. They don't get found either. You won't find any clues. And this isn't TV - after an all-nighter, nobody will be able to put some pieces together and ambush his next move.
He's still alive. He's still moving, we won't find him.
Doesn't that sound just like something Chief Wiggum would say?
I doubt it all. If they though they could get him, I bet they were wrong. People like bin Laden don't just 'die'. They don't get found either. You won't find any clues. And this isn't TV - after an all-nighter, nobody will be able to put some pieces together and ambush his next move.
He's still alive. He's still moving, we won't find him.
Of course, whatever his intelligence levels, he's surrounded by lots of very sharp people.
I wouldn't say Bin Laden's too valuable to act against - perhaps the strategy would have been to try to capture, rather than kill him, if he'd have let that happen. Then they could have done a Saddam-style humiliation campaign, tailored to the funadmentalist audience.
I'm not sure about his genuine importance - the cell AQ structure we hear about would pretty much take him out of the loop in terms of carrying out terrorist acts. Though he must be a good recruiting poster-boy, and provides a figure-head.
But yeah, no Iraq if they'd got him.
Interesting how it throws a little more light on Bush's electioneering too.
I wouldn't say Bin Laden's too valuable to act against - perhaps the strategy would have been to try to capture, rather than kill him, if he'd have let that happen. Then they could have done a Saddam-style humiliation campaign, tailored to the funadmentalist audience.
I'm not sure about his genuine importance - the cell AQ structure we hear about would pretty much take him out of the loop in terms of carrying out terrorist acts. Though he must be a good recruiting poster-boy, and provides a figure-head.
But yeah, no Iraq if they'd got him.
Interesting how it throws a little more light on Bush's electioneering too.
Not at all sure on the truth behind this. I've watched too much West Wing to form a proper opinion. It could just be a CIA agent taking a stab at the people who didn't fund him properly. Still, one thing to mention: many people spend day after day saying that Bush is stupid, but when its something bad, we can happily believe that he was "clever bad". The George Bush people make fun of would sit there going "So you want me to let the bad folks get away? Arrest that theyer man!"
I'm willing to accept that I just don't know much about it and its not worth me arguing about it.
I'm willing to accept that I just don't know much about it and its not worth me arguing about it.
monkey_man wrote:
> I'm not surprised they let
> him escape, he's almost immune, too valuable to damage - the myth has
> outgrown the man.
i agree.
as long as he's uncaptured there's always going to be a face to put on the problem, they need him to remain in the public conciousness so everyone continues to back the war on terror/for oil.
> I'm not surprised they let
> him escape, he's almost immune, too valuable to damage - the myth has
> outgrown the man.
i agree.
as long as he's uncaptured there's always going to be a face to put on the problem, they need him to remain in the public conciousness so everyone continues to back the war on terror/for oil.
I reckon he took off his hat and comedy beard and walked backwards into a battle to make it look like he was on the other side.
EDIT: Seriously though, we saw on the news how much they bombed the crap out of those mountains, and the British Special Forces went in and kicked tail too. If they'd have killed him, he'd have been a martyr, if lots of Marines had been killed it would have been bad for the US, and if they did storm his hideout he would probably have killed himself, also making him a martyr. I'm not surprised they let him escape, he's almost immune, too valuable to damage - the myth has outgrown the man.
EDIT: Seriously though, we saw on the news how much they bombed the crap out of those mountains, and the British Special Forces went in and kicked tail too. If they'd have killed him, he'd have been a martyr, if lots of Marines had been killed it would have been bad for the US, and if they did storm his hideout he would probably have killed himself, also making him a martyr. I'm not surprised they let him escape, he's almost immune, too valuable to damage - the myth has outgrown the man.
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