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Thu 28/07/05 at 21:59
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Yes, yes you've probably all seen this by now, but boy, is it funny.

[URL]http://gprime.net/video.php/pottercrash[/URL]

(He spoils it by the way, if you haven't read the books yet)
Fri 29/07/05 at 17:11
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Pandaemonium wrote:
*Shrug* Used to make a point. No more, I promise.

Despite the fact I've seen Se7en, I wish you'd edit that post. It's pretty out of order to anyone who hasn't seen it...
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:24
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Pandaemonium wrote:

> Just bought a copy of "Dead Air" for under two quid.


Oooh, can I have a lend once you're done?
>
> Having said that though, I admit to enjoying the HP books as the
> equivalent of literery crack. They're quick, mindless, enjoyable
> enough while you're there, and instantly forgettable.

Yup; read the most recent one in a coupla days. Chewing gum for the brain, and thoroughly enjoyable. I personally would have kicked the drive by spoiler chappy to death just out of the principle that ruining the ending of something is about as heademptyingly spiteful as one can get...
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:19
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Pandaemonium wrote:
> Banks is slightly more advanced.


Nah, I reckon Banks and Rowling have the same target demographic in mind... :-)

> Just bought a copy of "Dead Air" for under two quid.

Excellent. At that price it's worth it even if you hate it.
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:16
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RastaBillySkank wrote:
> It kicks the spit out of Harry Potter :-)

Banks is slightly more advanced.

Just bought a copy of "Dead Air" for under two quid.

Having said that though, I admit to enjoying the HP books as the equivalent of literery crack. They're quick, mindless, enjoyable enough while you're there, and instantly forgettable.
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:12
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Pandaemonium wrote:
> Anyone reading this thread, with even a passing interest in SF,
> [URL]http://www.iainbanks.net/sf.htm[/URL]

It kicks the spit out of Harry Potter :-)
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:10
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Anyone reading this thread, with even a passing interest in SF, [URL]http://www.iainbanks.net/sf.htm[/URL]

"Consider Phlebas", IMHo would make a cracking miniseries.
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:06
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Against A Dark Background's another cracker and Feersum Endjinn.

Thinking about (and having just been looking at my bookshelf) he's an incredibly prolific writer. I've got all his sci-fi novels lined up and can only see one among them that I didn't absolutely adore.
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:04
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Pandaemonium wrote:
> I love the Culture universe, but I just liked the break from it.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

The entire wormhole plot simply wouldn't have worked in a
> Culture universe, and it added massively to the plot. I loved the gas
> giant aliens (although they were very "culture" in their own
> right) and the A.I. Jihad (echoes of Herbert’s Butlerian Jihad) sub
> plot.

Very true.

>
> IMHO "The State Of The Art" is the best Culture story he's
> written, specifically because it's got Earth of the 1970's to compare
> against, and the beautifully bittersweet ending.

Nah, gotta be Player of Games or Consider Phlebas for me. SOTA is fantastic though, the novella itself and the rest of the stories in the book.

> Some I like, some I find an absolute chore to read, "The
> Business" being a prime example. "Whit" sucked too.
> "Wasp Factory", while being the obvious choice, is still my
> favorite non SF Banks novel. Sue me. I love it. ;D

Light wrote:
> Walking on Glass? Aye, it's a good un.

That's the one.

>Is Dead Air any good?

I really liked it. It's probably the most conventional book he's written (that I've read anyway) but it really grabbed me for some reason. Definitely worth a look if you like some of his other fiction.
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:02
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RastaBillySkank wrote:


> I've not read those two. I was thinking about getting The Business
> next time I'm in town... Might not bother. I've read The Wasp
> Factory, Crow Road, The Bridge, Dead Air and... another one I can't
> rememeber the name of, Glass possibly. Thoroughly enjoyed all of
> them.

Walking on Glass? Aye, it's a good un. Is Dead Air any good?


> Yeah, I've only ever had a problem reading Look To Windward. Not sure
> why, might give it a re-read and see. The rest I've found really
> engrossing though. I'd reccommend Use of Weapons, Player of Games,
> Consider Phlebas and State of the Art (short stories) as his best
> sci-fi, although Excessions and Inversions are definitely worth a
> look too.

Aye, read those ones and loved 'em. Inversions is the best of his I've ever read; a superb book!
Fri 29/07/05 at 15:01
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RastaBillySkank wrote:
> I'd reccommend Use of Weapons, Player of Games,
> Consider Phlebas and State of the Art (short stories) as his best
> sci-fi, although Excessions and Inversions are definitely worth a
> look too.

He's read them. Light got me into Banks in the first place. ;D
I've personally read all his SF novels at least twice.

"Excession" is the one novel I found difficult to get through, "Look to Windward" I really enjoyed.

It's a mark of his quality as a SF author that he's willing to alienate his readers by trying something new.

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