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Sun 03/06/01 at 04:58
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hi to you all i'm a newbie but i have a discussion/debate on region 1 vs region 2.


i don't normally buy region 2 dvd's most of mine are region 1. i own about 45 to 50 region 1 and only 5 region 2 why you ask, well region 1 dvd's normally have more extras plus dts sound and are normally left uncut. take the matrix for example region 1 disk had a few more extras and was uncut but the rgion2 was missing a few extras and had some fight scenes cut.


anyway my point is that region 1 has almost always been better. until now

i've noticed that a few realese's now are better on region 2 than region 1. take south park for example. all the region 1 disk had was a few trailers. region 2 on the other hand had all the trailers and a music video.

another example the mask of zorro, region 2 had a whole hour long feature making of which wasn't on region 1.

this is happening more and more and soon the only thing that will seperate the region 1 and region 2 will be the realse date's. which i might add are getting closer.

crouching tiger hidden dragon for example, us release date is june 5th uk release june 18th.


so do any of you lot that post here buy region 1 disks or have anything to add.


oh and i suppose you wanna know if i'll still buy region 1. well yes i will, why cause it's still cheaper to get an import that why :)
Wed 06/06/01 at 06:38
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Are you sure they didn't just hack it? You can find region hacks all over the internet which you can do yourself in a matter of minutes.
Wed 06/06/01 at 01:23
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Oh yeah and i got my dvd player multi-regioned by www.mailuk.com - its a panasonic so they upgraded it without chipping it, they just modified the code or something... they collect by courier from anywhere in the uk. They are in manchester, i'm in swansea and they did the whole thing collection and delivery for 70 quid. I'm only mentioning this cos people might read this thread and think 'hmmm... R1s sound good but my dvd isnt region free..' So there ya go.
Wed 06/06/01 at 01:18
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I have to agree that R1 discs are almost always better. I bought the Life Of Brian R1 criterion edition dvd because unlike the other releases you get 2 audio commentaries by the monty python team, and about 5 deleted scenes, and hour long bbc documentary including on-set footage, radio adverts for the film (icluding john cleese's mother and michael palin's dentist!), a theatrical trailer and of course the film itself which is remastered and looks amazing. Although this was the criterion edition and is now quite hard to find so i did shell out about 30 quid for it (postage included though) but i thought it was well worth it.

For buying R1 dvds i recommend:

www.digitaleyes.net
www.dvdpricesearch.com (checks many stores for the best deal)
www.cdnow.com
www.secondspin.com (a secondhand us cd/dvd/vhs store)
Mon 04/06/01 at 18:59
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"Looking for freedom"
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For region 1 DVDs I'd go with www.play247.com

They are very slightly more expensive than DVDBoxOffice (much cheaper for double discs though) but they are far quicker on delivery. I've waited for up to a fortnight after release for discs from them whereas Play deliver on the release date without fail.

As for the NTSC/PAL DVD quality difference I'll let an earlier post by pb explain:

pb wrote (in another thread):
Most DVD movies are not in PAL or NTSC unless they are TV movies or made for TV series.

The basic film on a DVD is not encoded for different TV signals, but converted by the DVD player itself. A TV that shows 60khz signal (i.e. most modern TVs) will show a movie perfectly. Anamorphic transfers will mean that whatever way you display the picture it should give you a good quality transfer.
Mon 04/06/01 at 18:17
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DVD region 1 negatives:

Er...none
> whatsoever.


How about the fact that they are NTSC rather than PAL. That means the quality isn't as sharp on Region 1 Discs.
Mon 04/06/01 at 08:32
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"Infantalised Forums"
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DVD region 1 benefits:

Available months before the UK.

LOADS more features (fight club, the abyss, Gladiator, Requiem for a Dream)

Cheaper even with shipping (I bought requiem for $42 including 2 day shipping from the states, still cheaper than over here)

Better quality.

DVD region 1 negatives:

Er...none whatsoever.
Mon 04/06/01 at 01:14
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"maximum homerdrive"
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i bought most of my region 1 dvd's from dvdboxoffice.com plus they take visa electron cards and they are a lot cheaper than region 2 dvd's like i bought titan AE for £12
Sun 03/06/01 at 18:39
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Where do you get your Region 1 disks from? I have bought a couple on eBay and I'm going to order from 'DVD Concepts' soon. Are there any other places worth trying?

Does anyone know if there is a web site (or book) that compares different region DVDs?
Sun 03/06/01 at 18:23
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"Fear my wrath..."
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Yes Power DVD pc software and another one I forget its name. Its ok with DVD players but not software... very strange. I hear you can download hacks to this though.
Sun 03/06/01 at 17:56
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"Looking for freedom"
Posts: 622
Rakuga wrote:
> What is actually the point in one region DVD players. They allow you
> to switch regions to play different films. But many like Power DVD
> despite allowing you to play all region DVDs only allow you to
> switch regions a certain amount of times. Now what is the point in
> this!?! Why can't they just give you unlimited amounts of times you
> can switch regions. That's what I don't understand!

I'm not sure who told you this or where you got it from but its complete rubbish.

Any modified player (chipped of firmware update) with a manual select wont restrict the number of region changes you can make and this also applies to nigh on every one of the many remote hackable ones.

In almost all cases the remote hack also stays as it is set even when the player is switched off so there's no need to do it each time you power up or have to leave it on standby all the time.

In case anyone is wondering there are no problems remotely like this with any of the players SR sell.

According to dvd.reviewer.co.uk the only player to resrtict the number of region changes is the Grundig GDV-100D (25 changes and then its fixed). There are one or two more but they are very old players and wont be on the shopping list of anyone anymore.

If you use a PC and the software restricts the number of changes then the answer is to use better (sorry, different) software. I must admit I've never heard of any such PC restriction before. Do you think you could of heard this from an anti-importer using scare tactics?

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