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Fri 01/06/01 at 13:47
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Everybody has heard of Marilyn Manson whether it be you, your kids or even your Grandmother. But do we truelly know who all the fuss is about? Do we really know who we are critisising? Do we even know that this person is male? To be honest, a lot of people only know the name, not the person who comes with it.

Born Brian Warner on January 5 1969 in Ohio, Manson moved to Florida in his teens and, after a time as a journalist, formed Marilyn Manson and the Spooky Kids in the late-80s. The band , like the gothic shoch rock star Manson, made up their names by matching the first names of female icons to the surnames of some of Americas most notorios criminals. Makes sence now!

The original band members included Zsa-Zsa Speck and Olivia-Newton Bundy. The Spooky Kids line-up saw Manson joined by Daisy Berkowitz, Gidget Gein and Madonna Wayne Gacy. In 1990, the band, with Sara Lee Lucas' help, saw them begining to record demos. They began to sell these on cassette at their live shows.

By 1992, the band were just known as Marilyn Manson. They had a large following around Florida. The following year they were signed to Nine Inch Nails record label and they were going on tour as support acts. That year, Gein was replaced by Twiggy Ramirez and that is when the controversy began.

In 1994 their debut was released, entitled 'Portrait Of An American Family'. This was a mix of metal and glam. Marilyn Manson was propelled into a million selling album act because of their live shows and gory, gothic videos.

In 1995, drummer Lucas left and was replaced by Ginger Fish, while Daisy was taken over by Zim Zum. Manson went up in the world and was made Reverend in the Church of Satan.

Their big breakthrough came with the album 'Smells Like Children' which contained a cover of Sweet Dreams originally done by the Eurythmics. Since then the band and especially the frontman, were everywhere.

In June 1999, the single 'Rock Is Dead' was featured on the soundtrack of the Hit film The Matrix. This brought Manson into the view of the wide-eyed public. In the November of 1999, Marilyn Manson released a live album called 'The Last Tour On Earth'.

In the year 2000, Manson had a supporting role in the film Jawbreaker. He played alongside his former girlfriend Rose McGowen. The rest of 2000 was spent recording a new album. This came as the dark masterpiece, 'Holy Wood (In The Shadow Of The Valley Of Death)'. This was the final part of a three part album that encompasses 'Antichrist Superstar' and 'Mechanical Animals'.

A novel was published in January this year which elaborates the themes of the trio of albums.

No doubt, Manson will continue to see how far he can push and continue to entertain the vastly expanding fans.
Fri 22/06/01 at 18:30
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Marilyn Manson, like the rest of the music business is just a pawn. Record labels can spot niche markets, such as in the case of Marilyn Manson, although it has been now filled with equally poor other "goth" bands. The pop business is the same, with record labels realiseing they can churn out the same rubbish every month and some pre-teen mug will buy it. Marilyn Manson and the like now appeal to teens, no-one knows why though. Now I've compared Marilyn Manson to pop, people that dont see sense will be angered... good

I'm not prejudice about the music business, I hate it all equally
Thu 21/06/01 at 23:36
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I actually got Dead to the World in MVC - A day before it was banned. I still cant believe how I managed it but it didnt come with any certificate on it and was actually not suppose to go on general sale but found a copy and was bloody lucky really!!
With God is in the TV - I managed to get hold of an import copy from the states of a mate - Again it wasnt suppose to be available to us in the UK but he managed to record a copy for me and thats how I ended up with it!!
Pretty lucky I suppose but I have heard that the two videos may be available in the UK within the next few months - Watch this space!!
Thu 21/06/01 at 20:54
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Where did you get them from?
Wed 06/06/01 at 23:27
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I actually managed to get hold of both Manson's home video's - 'Dead to the World' and 'God is in the T.V'
The first one was banned from general release in the UK but I managed to get hold of a copy before they actually banned it, the day before!! - The other I got an import from the US which is taken from the 'Last Tour on Earth' concert!!
Both are excellent and feature all Manson's most popular songs + videos - But why you cant get them in this country is beyond me - Ive seen a lot worse videos than these, he's just being made out to be the devil himself!!
Tue 05/06/01 at 16:49
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You'd think so wouldn't you?

Well done on the win by-the-way.

However, Manson (in my view) is merely redoing Cooper's act of 30 years ago.

Cooper was considered shocking and disgusting in his time, vilified by Christian groups everywhere, the end of the world...and now he makes golf videos and appears in Wayne's World.

Different Strokes and all that
Tue 05/06/01 at 16:43
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thats another person!
Mon 04/06/01 at 09:04
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I prefered his act when it was called "Alice Cooper"
Sat 02/06/01 at 23:10
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i got one word for m.manson...pants pants pants pants and yet more pants..............but hey the power of opinion
Sat 02/06/01 at 18:24
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Are you sure the novel has been released? I'm sure that it is still unfinished.
Fri 01/06/01 at 21:35
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Have every M. Manson album/CD single to date but one still eludes me - Anyone know where I can get hold of the Spooky Kids recordings??? I desperately want to complete my collection!!

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