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Mon 06/06/05 at 22:43
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[URL]http://www.theappleblog.com/2005/06/06/apple-announces-move-to-intel/[/URL]

Looks like you won't be able to run OS X on a PC, but you will be able to run Windows on a Mac.

Dual booting anyone?
Tue 07/06/05 at 21:03
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FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> So ... timeframe for the switch-over ...?

Apple to Use Intel Microprocessors Beginning in 2006

WWDC 2005, SAN FRANCISCO—June 6, 2005—At its Worldwide Developer Conference today, Apple® announced plans to deliver models of its Macintosh® computers using Intel® microprocessors by this time next year, and to transition all of its Macs to using Intel microprocessors by the end of 2007. Apple previewed a version of its critically acclaimed operating system, Mac OS® X Tiger, running on an Intel-based Mac® to the over 3,800 developers attending CEO Steve Jobs’ keynote address. Apple also announced the availability of a Developer Transition Kit, consisting of an Intel-based Mac development system along with preview versions of Apple’s software, which will allow developers to prepare versions of their applications which will run on both PowerPC and Intel-based Macs.

“Our goal is to provide our customers with the best personal computers in the world, and looking ahead Intel has the strongest processor roadmap by far,” said Steve Jobs, Apple’s CEO. “It’s been ten years since our transition to the PowerPC, and we think Intel’s technology will help us create the best personal computers for the next ten years.”

“We are thrilled to have the world’s most innovative personal computer company as a customer,” said Paul Otellini, president and CEO of Intel. “Apple helped found the PC industry and throughout the years has been known for fresh ideas and new approaches. We look forward to providing advanced chip technologies, and to collaborating on new initiatives, to help Apple continue to deliver innovative products for years to come.”

“We plan to create future versions of Microsoft Office for the Mac that support both PowerPC and Intel processors,” said Roz Ho, general manager of Microsoft’s Macintosh Business Unit. “We have a strong relationship with Apple and will work closely with them to continue our long tradition of making great applications for a great platform.”

“We think this is a really smart move on Apple’s part and plan to create future versions of our Creative Suite for Macintosh that support both PowerPC and Intel processors,” said Bruce Chizen, CEO of Adobe.

The Developer Transition Kit is available starting today for $999 to all Apple Developer Connection Select and Premier members. Further information for Apple Developer Connection members is available at developer.apple.com. Intel plans to provide industry leading development tools support for Apple later this year, including the Intel C/C++ Compiler for Apple, Intel Fortran Compiler for Apple, Intel Math Kernel Libraries for Apple and Intel Integrated Performance Primitives for Apple.
Tue 07/06/05 at 17:42
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But Graham Barlow, editor of MacFormat magazine, said some people may not buy a new Apple machine knowing that a new processor was coming out next year.

"That must be the worry for Apple retailers. I think it's highly likely there will be some price drops to tempt people to buy the final stocks of PowerPC equipped Macs," he told the BBC News website.


Macs on the cheap soon then :D!
Tue 07/06/05 at 17:38
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So ... timeframe for the switch-over ...?
Tue 07/06/05 at 12:17
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You all saw the keynote, right? I admire Jobs for the fact that he doesn't shy away from the weaknesses - on the changing code part from PowerPC to Intel, he wasn't afraid to outline the extent of "tweaks" that developers were about to do.

Having said that, it does make this [URL]http://www.apple.com/powermac/performance/[/URL] rather redundant. For the past decade they've been idolising the PowerPC architecture for being more powerful/Hz - and they're right. But now they're using the performance/watt ratio instead. Good for laptop users, but not necessarily power workstations.

Oh, and a whole bunch of other stuff I could ramble on about - namely Apple's identity with PowerPC as a sign of uniqueness - now with Intel processors, the only thing that'll differentiate themselves from any other standard PC manufacturer is the OS and motherboard.

I don't know about sales; no doubt they'll take an initial hit as people wait out for the Pentiums, but now Apple are relying more on the brand name, image association that goes with Apple and their OS more than anything else.

As for Xcode 2.1 - wow! I can now compile for PowerPC AND Pentium!!!1111 Shame I can't test it...
Mon 06/06/05 at 23:48
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Garin wrote:
> Theres nothing to suggest at this moment it will be possible is there?

Hmm, not specifically:

After Jobs' presentation, Apple Senior Vice President Phil Schiller addressed the issue of running Windows on Macs, saying there are no plans to sell or support Windows on an Intel-based Mac. "That doesn't preclude someone from running it on a Mac. They probably will," he said. "We won't do anything to preclude that."

However, Schiller said the company does not plan to let people run Mac OS X on other computer makers' hardware. "We will not allow running Mac OS X on anything other than an Apple Mac," he said."
Mon 06/06/05 at 23:42
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Timmargh wrote:
> Looks like you won't be able to run OS X on a PC, but you will be
> able to run Windows on a Mac.
>
> Dual booting anyone?

Theres nothing to suggest at this moment it will be possible is there? They've announce plans to use a different processor thats all. Theres more to a platform than the CPU, and theres little to suggest that Apple is going to move away from its proprietary hardware/architecture.
Mon 06/06/05 at 23:25
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FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Yeah, like OLD NEWS MATE.
> Ahem.
>
> Hurrah none the less.
> Although I didn't see a date ... when I read about it ... like THREE YEARS AGO MATE.

*slap*

It had been unconfirmed until this evening, mate.

:^P
Mon 06/06/05 at 23:17
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This isn't having any affect on the G5, mainly focusing on the G4/Powerbook range where they still can't get a G5 into such a device due to motorolla being slow with chip advancements.

Ironic how M$ go with PowerPC for XBOX360 just as Apple decide to look at possibilities wuth Intel/AMD
Mon 06/06/05 at 23:00
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Apparently it's because intel have "a better roadmap". Right. Secretly it's because Jobs promised we'd have 2Ghz G5s by now and IBM didn't deliver.
Mon 06/06/05 at 22:45
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Yeah, like OLD NEWS MATE.
Ahem.

Hurrah none the less.
Although I didn't see a date ... when I read about it ... like THREE YEARS AGO MATE.

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