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Sat 04/06/05 at 23:25
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Finally got around to watching it after a few days of meaning to.
Thoroughly enjoyed it, if a little concerned over the level and amount of violence. But hey, I'm a big boy and I'll have forgotten that by tomorrow.

Good points?
Rodriguez making it look like a comic. Mickey Rourke, who knew he was actually a decent actor eh? Benecio Del Toro, best corpse ever. Kung-Fu Hannibal Frodo. Yellow B&stard. Mickey Rourke again.

Bad points?
Clive Owen, bad accent & wooden delivery, kept taking me out the film. The portrayal of the women, all hookers or strippers, somewhat juvenile and felt slightly mysoginistic. The constant visceral violence. Bruce Willis, I've seen Twelve Monkeys and all his others have just been his smirking bald head smirking.

Overall?
Thought it was excellent, certainly not the usual summer fayre and deserves to make £££££ for at least daring to be different.
My only slight wince, as I said, came from the female characters all being stupid victims or prostitutes. It gave me the nasty whiff of why I can't read comics/graphic novels very much - a latent fear of women and the resultant portrayal of them being either manipulative snakes or shrieking damsels.
Now I'm sure that hardened comic readers will correct me there, but you need to understand I'm not saying all comics are like that.
I just get the impression an awful lot of writers/fans hold some deep seated fear and mistrust towars women, and this manifests itself in some awkwardly one-dimensional women characters that are huge-breasted/naked and either needing to be saved or acting like Comic-Store Guy's fantasy, leather clad dominatrix.

I'll buy this when it's out on DVD and look forward to the extras.
Definitely enjoyed it, just not too sure about the women stuff.
Mon 06/06/05 at 11:10
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"The definitive tag"
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It's not as good though.
Sun 05/06/05 at 22:59
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So it's a boys film. Sexy women, fast cars and violence.

It was brilliant.

Pulp Fiction for the 21st century without a doubt.
Sun 05/06/05 at 18:54
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The level of violence made me whelp with delight, it was so bloody, but so damn stylish.
Sun 05/06/05 at 18:41
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I dunno. Certainly Shellie is a victim, and there are a lot of Pros, but Gail isn't one. She dresses like a pro so as not to stand out. Nancy is an "exotic dancer" to pay her way through college. points skimmed over in the movie, but there nonetheless.

I suppose it can be a little sexist, but it's Noir taken to extremes. The women have ALL the power over the pathetic men. Millers other work shows hugely powerful female led characters (League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen, V for Vendetta) so it's not a case of him pandering to the stereotypical fanboy demographic.
Sun 05/06/05 at 18:01
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Just watched this, despite me only being 16 years old. Odeon staff are useless. We bought the tickets and then there was no one there to tear them or check my age, we could have got in free.

Anyway, the film.

Certainly the best thing I've seen for quite a while now and probably the most violent film I've ever seen. Some of the violence did seem a little unnecessary I suppose, but it was all good.

It was by far the most stylish film I've ever seen. Apparently the whole thing was shot in front of a blue screen. Must be the mark of a good actor, when they can still give incredible performances when they have no settings around them.

One of the best casts I've ever seen. I didn't even know Nick Stahl and Michael Clarke Duncan were going to be in it. Somehow I've never seen anything with Mickey Rourke in it before, but he most definitely is as good as everyone says he is. Clive Owen, I'm assuming (and hoping) that his slightly wooden acting was due to the fact that his character was supposed to be cold and calculated.

In my opinion, Sin City has joined the ranks of those few elite films that will be remembered as nothing less than classics. Can't wait for the DVD release, I'm looking forward to seeing behind the scenes of this (dare I say it) masterpiece.

10/10
Sun 05/06/05 at 15:46
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OddToe wrote:
I don't understand how it got rubbish reviews in America?

It didn't. It got rave reviews pretty much across the board.
Sun 05/06/05 at 13:52
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I've never read a 'real' comic before but the portrayel of women as prostitutes gives the film an 'underworld' feeling.

I thought Clive Owen acted well in it but someone else could have been better suited to the role.

I don't understand how it got rubbish reviews in America?

On a side note, I don't know if anyone else has seen this but there was an advert for Sin City and some critic was quoted:
"Pulp Fiction of the 21st Century"
I want to find him and kick him in the face.
Sun 05/06/05 at 00:09
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Yeah, I didn't really have a problem with it at all, but then I'm a comic fanboy >_<
Sat 04/06/05 at 23:50
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What are you waffling on about with all this women crap?

Meathook?
Sat 04/06/05 at 23:25
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Posts: 23,089
Finally got around to watching it after a few days of meaning to.
Thoroughly enjoyed it, if a little concerned over the level and amount of violence. But hey, I'm a big boy and I'll have forgotten that by tomorrow.

Good points?
Rodriguez making it look like a comic. Mickey Rourke, who knew he was actually a decent actor eh? Benecio Del Toro, best corpse ever. Kung-Fu Hannibal Frodo. Yellow B&stard. Mickey Rourke again.

Bad points?
Clive Owen, bad accent & wooden delivery, kept taking me out the film. The portrayal of the women, all hookers or strippers, somewhat juvenile and felt slightly mysoginistic. The constant visceral violence. Bruce Willis, I've seen Twelve Monkeys and all his others have just been his smirking bald head smirking.

Overall?
Thought it was excellent, certainly not the usual summer fayre and deserves to make £££££ for at least daring to be different.
My only slight wince, as I said, came from the female characters all being stupid victims or prostitutes. It gave me the nasty whiff of why I can't read comics/graphic novels very much - a latent fear of women and the resultant portrayal of them being either manipulative snakes or shrieking damsels.
Now I'm sure that hardened comic readers will correct me there, but you need to understand I'm not saying all comics are like that.
I just get the impression an awful lot of writers/fans hold some deep seated fear and mistrust towars women, and this manifests itself in some awkwardly one-dimensional women characters that are huge-breasted/naked and either needing to be saved or acting like Comic-Store Guy's fantasy, leather clad dominatrix.

I'll buy this when it's out on DVD and look forward to the extras.
Definitely enjoyed it, just not too sure about the women stuff.

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