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Some may remember a tale I told about a barn.
This barn, after a bit of idiocy from my close friend neal. Got burnt to the ground. In brief, my friend was working in a barn. Stacking a selection of broken chip and pin machines. It was a cold day in January and so he decided to start a fire to keep warm. Using my lighter my friend recklessly started a fire on a stack of boxes and then later, upon request, in a bin, away from danger. As the situation wore on my friend moved the bin nearer to him, which I questioned, the fire flicked from the metal bin and hit a stack of boxes. To cut a long story short, the barn burnt to the ground.
1 month later he is arrested, he tells his arresting officer that it was I that started the fire. So I was arrested. I told the truth, as stated above. 4 months down the line we are both charged with Arson.
I appear in court next week.
I am, as some will known, a Cambridge university student, with a small desire to be a teacher. This offense could see my dreams dashed and my prospects ruined. I have no idea what the minimum sentence is (be it imprisonment or community service), nor do I know EXACTLY what I did wrong.
At the moment my "close friend" still insists it was I that was responsible for the fire.
Help???
This barn, after a bit of idiocy from my close friend neal. Got burnt to the ground. In brief, my friend was working in a barn. Stacking a selection of broken chip and pin machines. It was a cold day in January and so he decided to start a fire to keep warm. Using my lighter my friend recklessly started a fire on a stack of boxes and then later, upon request, in a bin, away from danger. As the situation wore on my friend moved the bin nearer to him, which I questioned, the fire flicked from the metal bin and hit a stack of boxes. To cut a long story short, the barn burnt to the ground.
1 month later he is arrested, he tells his arresting officer that it was I that started the fire. So I was arrested. I told the truth, as stated above. 4 months down the line we are both charged with Arson.
I appear in court next week.
I am, as some will known, a Cambridge university student, with a small desire to be a teacher. This offense could see my dreams dashed and my prospects ruined. I have no idea what the minimum sentence is (be it imprisonment or community service), nor do I know EXACTLY what I did wrong.
At the moment my "close friend" still insists it was I that was responsible for the fire.
Help???
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Hmm, you told everyone at the time that it was a spark from the I-pod rather than an open fire? Insurance, fire brigade, police?
I'd have thought your biggest problem would have been charges / civil actions arising from that, if you only have to defend the arson charge you're laughing.
I'd have thought your biggest problem would have been charges / civil actions arising from that, if you only have to defend the arson charge you're laughing.
Dringo wrote:
> We weren't "mucking about" as you seem to think it. We WERE
> being sensible. Well at least I was. It was an accident, I just hope
> our solicitors can persuade that to the magistrate. It isn't a jury
> court.
Ah, that looks good for you. Don't know if anyone has said this or not, as I've not read the whole thing, but I think the maximum fine a magistrate can impose is £5 grand, not sure about prison time, it'll be no more than a few years (3?), might be none.
I could check it, but it'd be easier (for me) if you ask your lawyer.
> We weren't "mucking about" as you seem to think it. We WERE
> being sensible. Well at least I was. It was an accident, I just hope
> our solicitors can persuade that to the magistrate. It isn't a jury
> court.
Ah, that looks good for you. Don't know if anyone has said this or not, as I've not read the whole thing, but I think the maximum fine a magistrate can impose is £5 grand, not sure about prison time, it'll be no more than a few years (3?), might be none.
I could check it, but it'd be easier (for me) if you ask your lawyer.
If Dringo gets sent down, can we have a Free Dringo campaign?
We could send out spammy chain-e-mails with titles about cute puppies to get people to open them.
And Tphi could cook hot dogs for everyone. But not on a barbeque, that'd just be insensitive.
Hope you escape justice dude, what day are you in?
If you need someone to help bust you out, just put up a forum.
Seriously, the justice system is a joke. Even if they convict, which I doubt they will, you'll probably not have to do actual time. I think it'd stay on your record for a few years, maybe 5, before being lost in the sands of time, not sure whether it'd keep you from teaching until then, though I can't see how you'd want to waste your life trying to keep a bunch of kids from ripping each others / your limbs off, you could do so much more!
We could send out spammy chain-e-mails with titles about cute puppies to get people to open them.
And Tphi could cook hot dogs for everyone. But not on a barbeque, that'd just be insensitive.
Hope you escape justice dude, what day are you in?
If you need someone to help bust you out, just put up a forum.
Seriously, the justice system is a joke. Even if they convict, which I doubt they will, you'll probably not have to do actual time. I think it'd stay on your record for a few years, maybe 5, before being lost in the sands of time, not sure whether it'd keep you from teaching until then, though I can't see how you'd want to waste your life trying to keep a bunch of kids from ripping each others / your limbs off, you could do so much more!
"There's no smoke without fire, and there's no fire without Dringo's lighter. Case closed, pass the violin would you, Watson?" - Sherlock Holmes.
"Erm, I left it in the barn." - Watson.
"Hang 'em both." - Sherlock Holmes.
"Erm, I left it in the barn." - Watson.
"Hang 'em both." - Sherlock Holmes.
Or a fictional character.
Where the hell is Sherlock Holmes when you need him.
What?
So what if he's dead...
What?
So what if he's dead...
Or do you mean the company neal was working for? i thought you meant the insurance company.
ashman wrote
> At the end of the day, whether they use insurance or not, it was
> £100k's worth of damage and I'd think they will both probably
> get a fairly large fine. The company suffers either way, they're
> going to want compensation whether it was accidental or intentional.
Seems a bit harsh, you pay the insurance company regular amounts of money just in case an accident happens, and when an accident does happen they want compensation from you.
Reminds me of a case of a guy who insured some cuban cigars, smoked 'em, then claimed they were lost to fire dammage. The company took him to court but he won. The company then sued him for wantonly and knowingly setting fire to property with intent of claiming insurance. He went to prison.
Anyhoo... cant remember what i was going to say...
> At the end of the day, whether they use insurance or not, it was
> £100k's worth of damage and I'd think they will both probably
> get a fairly large fine. The company suffers either way, they're
> going to want compensation whether it was accidental or intentional.
Seems a bit harsh, you pay the insurance company regular amounts of money just in case an accident happens, and when an accident does happen they want compensation from you.
Reminds me of a case of a guy who insured some cuban cigars, smoked 'em, then claimed they were lost to fire dammage. The company took him to court but he won. The company then sued him for wantonly and knowingly setting fire to property with intent of claiming insurance. He went to prison.
Anyhoo... cant remember what i was going to say...
nova prospekt wrote:
> But if i remember correctly the equipment was all faulty so was
> propbably going to be scrapped anyway, and it was all insured and im
> all for sticking it to the insurance man!!
At the end of the day, whether they use insurance or not, it was £100k's worth of damage and I'd think they will both probably get a fairly large fine. The company suffers either way, they're going to want compensation whether it was accidental or intentional.
> But if i remember correctly the equipment was all faulty so was
> propbably going to be scrapped anyway, and it was all insured and im
> all for sticking it to the insurance man!!
At the end of the day, whether they use insurance or not, it was £100k's worth of damage and I'd think they will both probably get a fairly large fine. The company suffers either way, they're going to want compensation whether it was accidental or intentional.
You both took part in it,you both should pay the price.
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