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Tue 02/11/04 at 14:37
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The new Edge and once again they are loving Nintendo. It centres around the DS, the console they are backing to win the handheld war. I read it and managed to get several points from it.

It is a good article and they point out this is the "new Nintendo" and will be totally different from the N64 and the recent failure of the Gamecube. They criticise it too, claiming the DS is not easy to use and that Nintendo may have "underestimated the popularity of the touch screen with developers" and that although there are many games most are more misses than hits.

But they are also keen to point out the system was announced in January, shown in May then released by November. A year. Pratically unheard of. And that Mario Kart the year before was a similar occurance. It could be signs of a quicker more agile Nintendo.

They are loving the DS' price, even at £150 the PSP is still £50 more than a DS. Which is a lotta money no matter how you look at it. They also like the way it looks and the ideas behind it. They think it is bravery from Nintendo, something they haven't shown for a long time.

They are keen to point out the fact it is supposed to give hints to the "revolution" which indicates that Nintendo are almost totally changing the way it normally designs and makes machines.

They also congratulate it in its ability to counter-act the PSP. Although it is a simultaneous launch in Japan in the US it is released in time for Thanksgiving and Christmas... with the PSP due at Easter that is 2 holidays and a 5 month head start for the console. They also say that Nintendo may turn a blind eye to European importers. The only reason it hasn't hit Europe is the screen shortage and so therefore Nintendo are more than happy to allow Europeans to start building a small European fan base.

The way the article ends is pretty good too. The DS delivers first and promises second. Sony are promising everything with the PSP, yet haven't delivered anything yet.

Brings hope in what has been a dark time for Ninty news.
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:57
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Playing games at home and playing games on in the pub, on the bus, during Uni breaks etc... just doesn't work...

It just isn't cool.
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:54
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Well, judging from all the poll votes magazines have done DS has come out on top almost everytime.
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:50
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Dringo wrote:
> DeadMetal wrote:
>
> One example of this was an article I read by Larry Probst, CEO of EA
> Games, he believed that the DS is going to be for the "18 and
> under" crowd and the PSP is for the "18 and over"
> crowd. I was disapointed to hear that EA games have given the
> console
> the "Kiddy Image" treatment even before it is released.
>
> Exactly... how many adults do you know that play handheld games?
>
> I don't know any bar me and my mate.
>
> And we're both hardcore gamers anyway.
>
> Handheld gaming has always sold to children.

I don't know, many people have grown up playing hand-helds (with the major one being the gameboy) and the prospect of playing a portable PS2/DVD Player/MP3/internet? machine may attract an audience (espicially those who are fond of the PSONE and PSTWO).

Of course the main audience of hand-helds are those "18 and under", but the Playstation did make video-games fashionable to older people (that's in some people's opinions though, mine is that because people have grown up with Video-games and therefore went for a console that didn't have a supposed "Kiddy Image").
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:48
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Dringo wrote:
> According to the new NGC it was invented especially for Mario 64 DS
> for proper analogue control.

Sounding good, but will it work?
Not that I'm really skeptical, because Nintendo haven't let people down in terms of controllers in AGES, but I'll never be certain until I've tried it and mastered it for myself. :-)

> True, but not for presents and selling.

I was sort of thinking that lots of people bought handhelds for their holidays but, come think of it, most of them just dug up the one they got for Christmas.

Hang on, there was I supporting Nintendo's choice for an Easter launch and there you go prove me wrong.
How the worms have turned! :-P
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:46
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*reads the topic*

That's good news, as I've heard of some non-gaming magazines criticising the DS non stop.

And what is the price? I thought it was 150 American dollars. How much is that in £?
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:43
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DeadMetal wrote:

> One example of this was an article I read by Larry Probst, CEO of EA
> Games, he believed that the DS is going to be for the "18 and
> under" crowd and the PSP is for the "18 and over"
> crowd. I was disapointed to hear that EA games have given the console
> the "Kiddy Image" treatment even before it is released.

Exactly... how many adults do you know that play handheld games?

I don't know any bar me and my mate.

And we're both hardcore gamers anyway.

Handheld gaming has always sold to children.
Tue 02/11/04 at 21:41
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Strafio wrote:
> That's not bad for a launch.
>
> And if you're that bored then there's always the GBA back catalogue!
> :-)
>
>
>
>
> I think the DS COULD be something special.
> For me it balances on this thumbstrap - will it make analogue 3D
> gaming do-able?

According to the new NGC it was invented especially for Mario 64 DS for proper analogue control.
>
> As to the headstart, about Nintendo having 2 holiday's headstart, now
> I know that Christmas is usually the biggest time for games, but
> surely summer is the biggie for handhelds.

True, but not for presents and selling.
Tue 02/11/04 at 19:29
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Good to hear a major magazine giving the green light to the DS, but I still believe the PSP will beat the DS, simply because the Sony fan boys believe the console will get ports like GTA, Manhunt and others.

One example of this was an article I read by Larry Probst, CEO of EA Games, he believed that the DS is going to be for the "18 and under" crowd and the PSP is for the "18 and over" crowd. I was disapointed to hear that EA games have given the console the "Kiddy Image" treatment even before it is released.

I will definately be getting a DS, no question, but having the biggest software publisher on the planet critise the console before it's even release is ridiculous.
Tue 02/11/04 at 19:22
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I would hardly call the Gamecube a failure..
Tue 02/11/04 at 16:40
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That's not bad for a launch.

And if you're that bored then there's always the GBA back catalogue! :-)




I think the DS COULD be something special.
For me it balances on this thumbstrap - will it make analogue 3D gaming do-able?

As to the headstart, about Nintendo having 2 holiday's headstart, now I know that Christmas is usually the biggest time for games, but surely summer is the biggie for handhelds.

It's all those car journeys and the like.

Sketchboard, Bomberman and Mario 64 might just make those holiday car journeys seem that little bit shorter...
Until it gives you reading sickness! :-)

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