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"Why vote Lib Dem, it's pointless" has been the mantra of pretty much everybody I know.
And sadly I know that an awful lot of people think the same and wont vote for them, despite their gut feeling telling them to.
I'm not voting Labour again, they're no different to the Tories. Who are no different to Labour.
A 2 horse race where both horses are owned by the same stable.
THAT is a pointless vote.
My grandad said it best during the fireman's strike, "Christ I never thought I'd see the day Labour threatened to break strikes".
It's a joke.
Forget the horseshit scaremongering to make you suspicious of any brown-skinned person (We had tanks at airports for chrissakes...tanks at airports, there's democracy for you) in the run up to the invasion - I refuse to call it a war.
Forget the absolute non-reporting on Iraq for the past 6 weeks - seeing Allied soldiers being killed is a bummer, not the sort of thing we need reminding of when the election is looming.
Forget the hike in petrol prices that have yet still to come down despite promises.
This election campaign has been nothing to do with policies.
Apart from the Tories tubthumping about nignogs and muslims trying to live in your mouth there has been zero talk about policies.
The posters have been about trying to rubbish the other person.
It's not about politics, it's not about the issues that affect you and I on a day-to-day basis.
"Vote Labour or tomorrow you'll wake up with Michael Howard" was a fullpage ad in The Times yesterday.
Excuse me????????
That is your election manifesto? "I know you are but what am I?" is the level we have sunk to ladies & gentlemen.
Playground namecalling and insults.
Yeah, I have total faith in you to run a country with adult behaviour like that.
But then we as a nation don't care.
We put more thought into what song we download than we do choose the people that will tell you how much money you're allowed to keep for yourself after working all day long.
More people voted for the Pop Idol finale than did in the previous election.
That is where we're at as a country, that's our intelligence level.
Which is why the posters aren't about anything other than lame Simon Cowell type putdowns.
It appears that adult reasoning and thought has been abandoned for some retarded "Vote for X and they'll kill your dog!!!!!!" chant.
Stupid. Absolutely stupid.
Purely on the Iraq issue - Labour has grabbed your hair, rammed it into your mouth and hissed at you to smile as you gag and tears run down your face.
Distasteful? Not as much as Blair's insistence on taking us to war against a nation that has never, did never and could never pose a threat.
And we, the public, told him that. We didn't accept the story and we were roundly ignored. Remember that?
There has been a silence on Iraq since January, anybody noticed that?
Bombs are still going off, civilians & soldiers (and "insurgents", these aren't freedom fighters because we don't like their views) are still being killed. Lives are still being lost. And it just doesn't make the news anymore.
Over a million people marched against the war and we were ignored.
"WOMD!" "No there isnt"
"45 mins!" "No they can't"
"Immediate and clear threat to us!" "No they arent"
And when that didnt work we had "RICIN DEATH!!!!" on front pages of newspapers, we had central London closed for "tests" on what would happen during a chemical attack. From a country with no long-range weapon capability, no history of ever acting aggressively towards us.
You know the script by now.
"SHUT UP. STAY INDOORS. BE AFRAID. TRUST US. ALL IS CALM. TRUST US. WATCH EASTENDERS AND SHUT UP. ALL IS CALM"
And we fell for it.
Instead of taking to the streets and demanding things change (we did it with the Poll Tax), we closed our doors and cowered at images of be-cloaked "terrorists" being led into police stations.
"WE NEED ID CARDS TO PROTECT YOU AND YOUR CHRISTIAN WHITE CHILDREN"
Yeah, because they work in Spain don't they. No terrorist bombs have gone off in there at all on trains.
Dr David Kelly killed himself because of the pressure of being revealed as the source of Gilligan's story that proved to be true.
And who revealed his name?......*drumroll*...thaaaaaat's right - Blair & his dog Campbell as admitted 2 weeks ago finally.
/golfclap
A decent honest man that tried to say "Wait a moment, this isn't exactly true what we're being told" ended up comitting suicide.
And nothing was done.
Blair invaded with most of the country telling him they knew he was wrong.
And nothing was done.
Taxes have risen despite promises they wouldn't
And nothing was done.
And we know Labour, under Blair, are lying sneakthieves in thrall to Bush
And nothing will be done
Tomorrow we'll have that smiling powerwhore waving at the press and telling himself we love him really.
Nope, not the case.
We just couldn't be bothered to vote how we feel we should, because "it wont make any difference really"
Democracy Inaction.
And sadly I know that an awful lot of people think the same and wont vote for them, despite their gut feeling telling them to.
I'm not voting Labour again, they're no different to the Tories. Who are no different to Labour.
A 2 horse race where both horses are owned by the same stable.
THAT is a pointless vote.
My grandad said it best during the fireman's strike, "Christ I never thought I'd see the day Labour threatened to break strikes".
It's a joke.
Forget the horseshit scaremongering to make you suspicious of any brown-skinned person (We had tanks at airports for chrissakes...tanks at airports, there's democracy for you) in the run up to the invasion - I refuse to call it a war.
Forget the absolute non-reporting on Iraq for the past 6 weeks - seeing Allied soldiers being killed is a bummer, not the sort of thing we need reminding of when the election is looming.
Forget the hike in petrol prices that have yet still to come down despite promises.
This election campaign has been nothing to do with policies.
Apart from the Tories tubthumping about nignogs and muslims trying to live in your mouth there has been zero talk about policies.
The posters have been about trying to rubbish the other person.
It's not about politics, it's not about the issues that affect you and I on a day-to-day basis.
"Vote Labour or tomorrow you'll wake up with Michael Howard" was a fullpage ad in The Times yesterday.
Excuse me????????
That is your election manifesto? "I know you are but what am I?" is the level we have sunk to ladies & gentlemen.
Playground namecalling and insults.
Yeah, I have total faith in you to run a country with adult behaviour like that.
But then we as a nation don't care.
We put more thought into what song we download than we do choose the people that will tell you how much money you're allowed to keep for yourself after working all day long.
More people voted for the Pop Idol finale than did in the previous election.
That is where we're at as a country, that's our intelligence level.
Which is why the posters aren't about anything other than lame Simon Cowell type putdowns.
It appears that adult reasoning and thought has been abandoned for some retarded "Vote for X and they'll kill your dog!!!!!!" chant.
Stupid. Absolutely stupid.
Purely on the Iraq issue - Labour has grabbed your hair, rammed it into your mouth and hissed at you to smile as you gag and tears run down your face.
Distasteful? Not as much as Blair's insistence on taking us to war against a nation that has never, did never and could never pose a threat.
And we, the public, told him that. We didn't accept the story and we were roundly ignored. Remember that?
There has been a silence on Iraq since January, anybody noticed that?
Bombs are still going off, civilians & soldiers (and "insurgents", these aren't freedom fighters because we don't like their views) are still being killed. Lives are still being lost. And it just doesn't make the news anymore.
Over a million people marched against the war and we were ignored.
"WOMD!" "No there isnt"
"45 mins!" "No they can't"
"Immediate and clear threat to us!" "No they arent"
And when that didnt work we had "RICIN DEATH!!!!" on front pages of newspapers, we had central London closed for "tests" on what would happen during a chemical attack. From a country with no long-range weapon capability, no history of ever acting aggressively towards us.
You know the script by now.
"SHUT UP. STAY INDOORS. BE AFRAID. TRUST US. ALL IS CALM. TRUST US. WATCH EASTENDERS AND SHUT UP. ALL IS CALM"
And we fell for it.
Instead of taking to the streets and demanding things change (we did it with the Poll Tax), we closed our doors and cowered at images of be-cloaked "terrorists" being led into police stations.
"WE NEED ID CARDS TO PROTECT YOU AND YOUR CHRISTIAN WHITE CHILDREN"
Yeah, because they work in Spain don't they. No terrorist bombs have gone off in there at all on trains.
Dr David Kelly killed himself because of the pressure of being revealed as the source of Gilligan's story that proved to be true.
And who revealed his name?......*drumroll*...thaaaaaat's right - Blair & his dog Campbell as admitted 2 weeks ago finally.
/golfclap
A decent honest man that tried to say "Wait a moment, this isn't exactly true what we're being told" ended up comitting suicide.
And nothing was done.
Blair invaded with most of the country telling him they knew he was wrong.
And nothing was done.
Taxes have risen despite promises they wouldn't
And nothing was done.
And we know Labour, under Blair, are lying sneakthieves in thrall to Bush
And nothing will be done
Tomorrow we'll have that smiling powerwhore waving at the press and telling himself we love him really.
Nope, not the case.
We just couldn't be bothered to vote how we feel we should, because "it wont make any difference really"
Democracy Inaction.
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Ant wrote:
> It's got to be Kenneth Brown.
>
> What an absolute legend. He'd get in.
Boris, he's the only Tory i like.
> It's got to be Kenneth Brown.
>
> What an absolute legend. He'd get in.
Boris, he's the only Tory i like.
CDouch wrote:
> Nikolai Tolstoy-Miloslavsky, UK Independence Party 798
>
Hahaha, irony
> Nikolai Tolstoy-Miloslavsky, UK Independence Party 798
>
Hahaha, irony
Tphi wrote:
> Eh up, Howard's stepping down "soon". Wonder who the Tories
> will have now :S
>
> Boris
It's got to be Kenneth Clarke.
What an absolute legend. He'd get in.
> Eh up, Howard's stepping down "soon". Wonder who the Tories
> will have now :S
>
> Boris
It's got to be Kenneth Clarke.
What an absolute legend. He'd get in.
Ha! Take that Jowell, a 9% vote loss to the Lib Dems. Go team Jhn Mitchell! If the same thing happens next year then we'll be in. Hurray!. Not that she's a bad MP or anything.
Turns out LibDems have taken nice swings in their favour in a lot of regions. But looking at the country election map, it doesn't look like Labour have that much control.
Damn.
Ed Vaizey, Conservative 22,354
Andrew Crawford, Liberal Democrat 14,337
Mark McDonald, Labour 12,464
Adam Twine, Green Party 1,332
Nikolai Tolstoy-Miloslavsky, UK Independence Party 798
Gerald Lambourne, English Democrats 646
Although the last two years Libdem have come third so in a way I'm quite pleased.
Ed Vaizey, Conservative 22,354
Andrew Crawford, Liberal Democrat 14,337
Mark McDonald, Labour 12,464
Adam Twine, Green Party 1,332
Nikolai Tolstoy-Miloslavsky, UK Independence Party 798
Gerald Lambourne, English Democrats 646
Although the last two years Libdem have come third so in a way I'm quite pleased.
CDouch wrote:
> I'm trying to find out who won in my area but can't see it anywhere.
>
> Any sites which have the full results?
The Guardian's website have a list of results and tallies of votes in the constituencies.
> I'm trying to find out who won in my area but can't see it anywhere.
>
> Any sites which have the full results?
The Guardian's website have a list of results and tallies of votes in the constituencies.
Eh up, Howard's stepping down "soon". Wonder who the Tories will have now :S
Boris
Boris
CDouch wrote:
> I'm trying to find out who won in my area but can't see it anywhere.
>
> Any sites which have the full results?
Try the bbc website and typing in your postcode?
> I'm trying to find out who won in my area but can't see it anywhere.
>
> Any sites which have the full results?
Try the bbc website and typing in your postcode?
Your Honour wrote:
> I did not "dismiss" the whole thing at all. If someone else
> had posted a very suspect claim, you would have been one of the first
> to ask for more details and information on it, yet as soon as someone
> else does, they're trying to be clever. I have no idea how that makes
> sense, but I'm sure it does in your head, so we'll leave it at that
> shall we?
Yeah fair enough. I probably snapped a little too much there after reading Mumbai Duck's headspew. Apologies that you got the backlash of that. I still feel that the point you made was sophistry rather than any real value, but that's what agreeing to disagree is for.
> I did not "dismiss" the whole thing at all. If someone else
> had posted a very suspect claim, you would have been one of the first
> to ask for more details and information on it, yet as soon as someone
> else does, they're trying to be clever. I have no idea how that makes
> sense, but I'm sure it does in your head, so we'll leave it at that
> shall we?
Yeah fair enough. I probably snapped a little too much there after reading Mumbai Duck's headspew. Apologies that you got the backlash of that. I still feel that the point you made was sophistry rather than any real value, but that's what agreeing to disagree is for.
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