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"SR F1 Championship - Brazilian Grand Prix and Round 4 Predictions"

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Thu 07/04/05 at 01:07
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Toyota lock out front row but it doesn't stop Pizzonia

It was a Toyota 1-2 in qualifying for the Brazilian Grand Prix with Panis taking his first career pole position ahead of teammate Ralf Schumacher. Toyota hasn't had the greatest of runs in recent years but this is surely an encouraging sign.

3rd saw the Williams of Sato ahead of Button in 4th, who has qualified in the top 8 for all 3 races so far. Montoya will be looking to to get back into the points from 5th. Fisichella is looking for some consistency at the sharp end with 6th place on the grid. McLarens usually go well round Brazil and Raikkonen starts the race from 7th with Pizzonia continuing his fine form with 8th.

Full Qualifying Results:

1st Panis (Foreman) 1m13.852s
2nd R Schumacher (N/A) 1m13.853s (+0.001s)
3rd Sato (Poopots) 1m13.934s (+0.082s)
4th Button (Der Nazi) 1m13.955s (+0.103s)
5th Montoya (Afrojoe) 1m13.969s (+0.117s)
6th Fisichella (Badgerman) 1m13.998s (+0.146s)
7th Raikkonen (Ineedsleep) 1m13.999s (+0.147s)
8th Pizzonia (Icarus) 1m14.053s (+0.201s)
9th Karthikeyan (Ortega) 1m14.090s (+0.238s)
10th Salo (Biggie Little) 1m14.094s (+0.242s)
11th Villeneuve (Mike Swade) 1m14.108s (+0.256s)
12th Pantano (Chris) 1m14.126s (+0.274s)
13th Firman (Notorious Biggles) 1m14.130s (+0.278s)
14th Barrichello (Lipe) 1m14.145s (+0.293s)
15th De La Rosa (Virtuoso) 1m14.159s (+0.307s)
16th Heidfeld (Shadow) 1m14.196s (+0.344s)
17th Verstappen (Jae) 1m14.260s (+0.408s)
18th Alonso (Jules) 1m14.273s (+0.421s)
19th Webber (Shelljed) 1m14.293s (+0.441s)
20th Klien (Figo) 1m14.306s (+0.454s)
21st Baumgartner (Grandprix) 1m14.316s (+0.464s)
22nd M Schumacher (Vampyr) 1m14.394s (+0.542s)

Everyone was on their best behaviour in the race with only 2 spinners for the entire 72 laps. The race did prove to be hard going on the cars, as only 13 out of the 22 finished.

The first spinner was Jenson Button on lap 2. It proved pretty costly as he slipped to the back of the pack. The midfield was very congested for about 10 laps as the 2 stoppers were trying to find their way around the 1 stoppers.

Panis was a 1 stopper and he managed to get away in the lead. It only lasted until lap 4, when a flying Montoya blew past him and started running off into the distance. Pizzonia was also a 2 stopper but he didn't find it so easy and was about 15 seconds behind Montoya when he got into 2nd.

The first retirement was Webber on lap 14 when his transmission packed in. It was on lap 26 when Panis, who was on course to get back in the lead as Montoya didn't have a big enough lead to make a stop, retired with transmission problems.

The cars continued to fail as on lap 34, Alonso's car broke down with a water leak. McLaren's day ended on lap 57 when Raikkonen, on for some points, developed transmission problems. Nearing the end of the race now and Button, fighting his way back from last, retired on lap 60 with a left front puncture.

It was then major heartache for Montoya. He was 25 seconds clear and coasting to victory when Salo spins off the track and then back on, right in front of Montoya. It was an unavoidable accident but it's not going to be an consolation to Montoya. Montoya and Salo retire on lap 61.

Verstappen retired on lap 62 with a damaged right front wheel and Baumgartner was the final retirement on lap 67 with a right rear puncture.

With everything that was going on, the one man to benefit was none other than Pizzonia. He took the lead from Montoya's retirement and comfortably held off Ralf Schumacher to win his 5th career race. That equals the record of 3 wins in a row, held by Villeneuve, and takes a huge lead in the drivers Championship. To put it in perspective, it took last years World Champion 8 races to get to 30 points, while Pizzonia has done it in 3 races.

2nd was Ralf Schumacher to, at least give Toyota some joy, although Panis could have won. 3rd was Pantano who is B.A.R's main scorer so far this season. Fisichella comes off the back of 2 5th place finishes to take 4th place in Brazil. De La Rosa gets MG F1 off the mark with 5th place. Villeneuve also gets his 3rd points finish of the season with 6th. Klien gets his first career points with 7th and that's Sauber's first points of the season. Barrichello continues Renaults dominance with 8th place.

Full Race Results:

1st Pizzonia (Icarus) 1h31m51.762s (Up 7)
2nd R Schumacher (N/A) +8.931s (No Change)
3rd Pantano (Chris) +12.252s (Up 9)
4th Fisichella (Badgerman) +16.545s (Up 2)
5th De La Rosa (Virtuoso) +21.275s (Up 10)
6th Villeneuve (Mike Swade) +34.871s (Up 5)
7th Klien (Figo) +35.552s (Up 13)
8th Barrichello (Lipe) +42.439s (Up 6)
9th Sato (Poopots) +44.444s (Down 6)
10th Karthikeyan (Ortega) +49.205s (Down 1)
11th Firman (Notorious Biggles) +51.083s (Up 2)
12th M Schumacher (Vampyr) +1m02.524s (Up 10)
13th Heidfeld (Shadow) +1m10.119s (Up 3)
14th Baumgartner (Grandprix) -6laps (Up 7)

DNF

Verstappen (Jae) Wheel
Montoya (Afrojoe) Accident
Salo (Biggie Little) Accident
Button (Der Nazi) Puncture
Raikkonen (Ineedsleep) Transmission
Alonso (Jules) Water Leak
Panis (Foreman) Transmission
Webber (Shelljed) Transmission

Drivers Championship

1st Pizzonia 30pts
2nd Fisichella 13pts
3= R Schumacher 11pts
3= Pantano 11pts
3= Villeneuve 11pts
6th Verstappen 9pts
7th Montoya 8pts
8= Raikkonen 6pts
8= Barrichello 6pts
10th De La Rosa 4pts
11th Webber 3pts
12= Sato 2pts
12= Klien 2pts
14th Firman 1pt

Constructors Championship

1st Renault 36pts
2nd Jordan 14pts
3= Ferrari 11pts
3= Toyota 11pts
3= B.A.R 11pts
6th Williams 10pts
7th Minardi 9pts
8th McLaren 6pts
9th MG F1 4pts
10th Red Bull 3pts
11th Sauber 2pts

Fastest Lap: 1m14.581s - De La Rosa

PREDICTION WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP

9 players predicted this time around so someone will go without scoring points. Here are the results:

1st Jae 10pts (25pts - +2.557s)
2nd Badgerman 8pts (18pts - +2.551s)
3rd Jules 6pts (13pts - +3.760s)
4th Foreman 5pts (12pts - +2.654s)
5th Icarus 4pts (12pts - +3.234s)
6th Shelljed 3pts (9pts - +3.190s) Entered Coulthard when he wasn't racing this season and made a slight error
7th Ineedsleep 2pts (7pts - +0.840s)
8th Chris 1pt (7pts - +2.453s)
9th Shadow 0pts (7pts - +4.132s)

The table now looks like this after Round 3:

1st Chris 21pts (2 wins)
2nd Badgerman 15pts
3rd Jae 13pts (1 win)
4= Icarus 12pts
4= Foreman 12pts
6th Shelljed 11pts
7th Shadow 10pts
8= Ineedsleep 8pts
8= Biggie Little 8pts
10th Jules 7pts

So, with Round 3 over, Pizzonia has a huge 17 point lead in the Drivers Championship. Renault extend their lead in the Constructors Championship to 22pts. The Prediction Championship has closed a lot with Badgerman coming out of the midfield pack to close the gap to Chris from 10 points to 6. The next round takes us to Europe for the San Marino Grand Prix with Pizzonia looking to break an SR F1 record and take an unprecedented 4th straight win.

Remember to look here for the current driver lineup:
[URL]http://www.freewebs.com/gpsr/srf1.htm[/URL]

PREDICTION DEADLINE: 17th APRIL

Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st
2nd
3rd
4th
5th
6th
7th
8th

TIE BREAKER: What will be the gap between first and second at the end of the race? (FOR EXAMPLE: Last year, Raikkonen was 2.377s ahead of Fisichella)

Thanks for reading.
Sat 16/04/05 at 14:51
Regular
"Going nowhere fast"
Posts: 6,574
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Fisichella

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

McLaren

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Webber

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

Red Bull Racing

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)

1st Raikkonen
2nd Fisichella
3rd De La Rosa
4th Montoya
5th Button
6th Pantano
7th Barrichello
8th Firman

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Villeneuve

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

McLaren

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Pizzonia (if I go this then hes bound not to do it again:) )

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

Baumgartner

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)

1st Montoya
2nd Button
3rd Pizzonia
4th Raikkonen
5th Firman
6th Heidfield
7th De La Rosa
8th Fisichella

TIE BREAKER: 2.165s
Sat 16/04/05 at 13:34
Regular
"Too Orangy For Crow"
Posts: 15,844
Today is the last day to get your predictions in as the results will be posted around about 2pm Sunday.
Fri 15/04/05 at 20:40
Regular
"Far Beyond Metal"
Posts: 5,748
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)
Verstappen

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)
Minardi

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)
Karthikeyan

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)
Red Bull Racing

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Verstappen
2nd Pizzonia
3rd Fisichella
4th Button
5th Montoya
6th Baumgartner
7th R Schumacher
8th Barrichello

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)
Alonso

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)
Jordan

Who will win the race? (12 points)
Fisichella

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)
Baumgartner

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Fisichella
2nd Pizzonia
3rd Verstappen
4th R. Schumacher
5th Button
6th Barrichello
7th Villeneuve
8th Alonso

TIE BREAKER: What will be the gap between first and second at the end of the race?
5.577s
Thu 14/04/05 at 20:41
Regular
"es argh"
Posts: 4,729
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)
Fisichella

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)
Renault

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)
Heidfeld

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)
Ferarri

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Fisichella
2nd Pizzonia
3rd Pantano
4th Verstappen
5th Barrichello
6th R Schumacher
7th Villeneuve
8th Sato

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)
De La Rosa

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)
Jordan

Who will win the race? (12 points)
Fisichella

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)
Montoya

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Fisichella
2nd R Schumacher
3rd Raikonnen
4th Pizzonia
5th Pantano
6th Klien
7th Villeneuve
8th Verstappen

TIE BREAKER: What will be the gap between first and second at the end of the race? (FOR EXAMPLE: Last year, Raikkonen was 2.377s ahead of Fisichella)
4.573s
Wed 13/04/05 at 18:06
Regular
Posts: 6,094
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Alonso

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

Sauber

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Heidfeld

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

BAR

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)
1st Baumgartner
2nd Webber
3rd Pantano
4th Pizzonia
5th Button
6th De la Rosa
7th Karthikeyan
8th Alonso

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Heidfeld

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

Ferrari

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Montoya

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

Raikkonen

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for
driver being in correct place)
1st Barrichello
2nd Heidfeld
3rd Raikkonen
4th Pantano
5th Pizzonia
6th Button
7th Villenueve
8th De la Rosa

TIE BREAKER: What will be the gap between first and second at the end
of the race? (FOR EXAMPLE: Last year, Raikkonen was 2.377s ahead of
Fisichella)

7.163s
Sat 09/04/05 at 16:32
Regular
"Better Than You"
Posts: 5,204
Who will qualify in pole position? (10 points)

Button

Which team will qualify in pole position? (5 points)

B.A.R

Who will be last on the grid? (10 points)

Klien

Which team will be last on the grid? (5 points)

Sauber

The top 8 qualifiers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Button
2nd Raikkonen
3rd Fisichella
4th Pantano
5th Montoya
6th Firman
7th R Schumacher
8th Alonso

Who will make up the most positions in the race? (8 points)

Verstappen

Which team will score the most points in the race? (5 points)

B.A.R

Who will win the race? (12 points)

Button

Who will be the first retirement? (10 points)

Raikkonen

The top 8 finishers (1 point for driver being in top 8, 3 points for driver being in correct place)
1st Button
2nd Pantano
3rd Montoya
4th Fisichella
5th Firman
6th Alonso
7th Vertsappen
8th R Schumacher

TIE BREAKER: What will be the gap between first and second at the end of the race? (FOR EXAMPLE: Last year, Raikkonen was 2.377s ahead of Fisichella)

4.361s
Sat 09/04/05 at 15:29
Regular
"Too Orangy For Crow"
Posts: 15,844
Jules wrote:
> er..ive probably missed something here, but what does this have 2 do
> wwith grand prix 4???

It's the way I work out the results. I run the race through Grand Prix 4 with everyone all the same and post the results. Pretty simple really.
Sat 09/04/05 at 14:50
Regular
"This is my tagline"
Posts: 94
Grandprix wrote:
>
>
> Because Grand Prix 4 doesn't have the 'fuel for the race in
> qualifying' rule.

er..ive probably missed something here, but what does this have 2 do wwith grand prix 4???
Sat 09/04/05 at 10:55
Regular
Posts: 5,135
Klien seems to be following a pattern of doing crap in qualifying but then moving up several places in the actual race and actually finishing in a decent position.

Hopefully he can get a top 3 finish next.
Fri 08/04/05 at 22:41
Regular
"Too Orangy For Crow"
Posts: 15,844
Jules wrote:
> i was just thinking, in the brazilian gp, if panis was 1 stopping how
> could he have got pole position??????
> sorry

Because Grand Prix 4 doesn't have the 'fuel for the race in qualifying' rule.

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