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Thu 31/03/05 at 19:52
"Dark FX"
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Hello. Is there an alternative way to modify every HTML page on a website other than CMS? Sorry to be a nuissance (spelling) but I'm having real trouble getting to grips with MySQL and I preferably wanted to do it in just HTML rather than PHP as I am having trouble with the Apache server. I know Timmargh said it can be done in HTML but I can't see how. So any suggestions and/or guidance is much appreciated. Thanks
Fri 01/04/05 at 13:00
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Tyla wrote:
> Hmmm... wrote:
> [URL]http://www.newsscript.co.uk/[/URL] this uses a CGI Perl script
> and comes with idiot proof instructions
>
> Excellent, may have a use for that.

;¬)
Fri 01/04/05 at 12:57
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"l33t cs50r"
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Hmmm... wrote:
> [URL]http://www.newsscript.co.uk/[/URL] this uses a CGI Perl script
> and comes with idiot proof instructions

Excellent, may have a use for that.
Fri 01/04/05 at 12:52
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This.Celluloid.Dream wrote:
> Hello. Is there an alternative way to modify every HTML page on a
> website...

As Nimco says - what do you want ?!
Perhaps you could give an exapmple of what you are trying to achieve then people may be able to help you better.

If you want to change a line of code in 200 pages of HTML then you could simply use a find/replace utility which would do it with one click - but is this was you are after ?

If you want a free basic CMS application that doesn't use MySQL there are plenty around, for example: [URL]http://www.newsscript.co.uk/[/URL] this uses a CGI Perl script and comes with idiot proof instructions - but is this what you are after ?


EDIT:
I posted this before I saw your latest reply. It looks like you just need to use a find/replace utility (stand alone or in your HTML editor) to make your changes across your site.
Fri 01/04/05 at 12:43
"Dark FX"
Posts: 303
Thanks Nimco. Sorry for annoying you. I just want to be able to change a navigation bar on every page without having to do it one page at a time. So I'll read into CMS and SSI a bit more. Thanks
Fri 01/04/05 at 12:34
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"NULL"
Posts: 1,384
First, let me just clarify a few little things.

In simple terms, PHP and SSI are basically programming languages - but they are not the same.

SSI is very limited in it's functionality - it pretty much just adds content to a page (either html code in another file, a date, etc).

PHP is a much more diverse and powerful programming language.

CMS is NOT a programming language, but stands for Content Management System. It is some kind of interface (often a web site) that can be used to modify the content on a web site - it might have forms to allow you to add/edit text on a page for instance. A CMS is written in a programming language - such as PHP for example.

A CMS can range in complexity from a very simple form which might let you change the text in your copyright notice, right up to something which lets you control every aspect of a site. A complex CMS such as this may make use of databases to organise the data more effectivel - perhaps MySQL.

The question is, what exactly are you after? If you are simply trying to change the content of a single file that is included on every page, then you don't need a full-blown CMS. e.g. if you have a copyright notice at the bottom of every page and you want to be able to change the text on every page at once, then you could use SSI to simply include a file called "copyright.txt" in every page, and when you want to change the text, you change it once in the file called "copyright.txt".

If however you are looking for something more powerful, then you need to start to consider how best to organise it - you may need a CMS.

Whatever solution you choose though, it needs to be more than just HTML, since HTML is not processed by the server before it is sent to the user, so it cannot change unless you specifically change the file.
Fri 01/04/05 at 12:19
"Dark FX"
Posts: 303
Yeah, but again, isn't that PHP? I am unable to use PHP right now so I just need something similar to CMS or SSI
Fri 01/04/05 at 12:17
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"NULL"
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Not sure what you mean exactly? You can use SSI to include files in a page and update content that way.
Fri 01/04/05 at 10:57
"Dark FX"
Posts: 303
Basically, can it be achieved with any program such as Dreamweaver or Nvu?
Thu 31/03/05 at 19:52
"Dark FX"
Posts: 303
Hello. Is there an alternative way to modify every HTML page on a website other than CMS? Sorry to be a nuissance (spelling) but I'm having real trouble getting to grips with MySQL and I preferably wanted to do it in just HTML rather than PHP as I am having trouble with the Apache server. I know Timmargh said it can be done in HTML but I can't see how. So any suggestions and/or guidance is much appreciated. Thanks

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