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I just HAD to comment on the news story at the SR homepage, as it really did make me wonder about Sony - please not all of the text below is from the front page news story! (Other than my comments below!)
"Ken Kutaragi, president of Sony Computer Entertainment, launched a scathing attack on Microsoft's Xbox console, claiming "they have no games".
Usually a quite and reserved man (well, for a president of a multi-national corporation, anyway), Kutaragi is not usually known for outbursts like this, but the Xbox has clearly touched a nerve. "Microsoft was finished before it even got started. They have no games" said Kutaragi in an interview with the Financial Times. He also claimed that Microsoft have "put themselves out of the game" after their E3 showing. Microsoft had an impressive E3 show, but it was overshadowed by Nintendo's monster games and the news that the Gamecube would go on sale three days before the Xbox in the US, for $100 cheaper.
Kutaragi reflected on the Xbox E3 offerings, citing them as "disappointing". He also added that "Microsoft does not understand the entertainment business". Still, there's no doubting the sheer power of the Xbox - it is still the most powerful console out there. The Xbox WILL have some great games at launch, although they might not be around at the moment. Games like Unreal Championship and Championship Manager 4 will ensure that the Xbox will not be completely ignored and with companies like Sega, EA and Capcom on Microsoft's side, Kutaragi may end up eating his words.
Ok, so maybe you could've read it there, but honestly not all of you would have done so, or been able to read my comments! So, what does this mean? Well, at first impressions I thought maybe it'd make more sense if you replace the word Xbox with 'PlayStation 2' and the word Mircrosft with 'Sony', but I doubt anyone here would believe it, although it'd be more true to life.
Methinks Sony is running scared of the Xbox, although they know the PS2 is selling well, the PSone is still unlawfully outselling everything under the sun! But Xbox will be impressive and a comment like this is surely a deterant, and will have a rippling effects on the games industry - expect Bill Gates and his army to be waltzing round each and every city in the world, preaching the good word of Xbox - deary me, it's getting worse than the elections! Either way, this will surely spark a reaction from Microsoft and the rest of the 'big players' and I could bank on the Xbox suddenly becoming the most wanted games machine. After the astounding GameCube of course!!
Anyway, due to Nintendo's unrivalled showing at E3, all the rumours are quashed about it being canned - never mind Kutaragi!!! But remember, last year at E3 it was Sega who impressed the most with some startling titles, but look what happened to them? However I doubt Nintendo will do achieve anything less than market leadership with Gamcube - they have the money to promote the thing like crazy, and already have the respect of gamers across the world. So, whatever happens, have fun, thanks for reading, and don't shot me in the foot - it'd hurt!
Dan2K1
"Ken Kutaragi, president of Sony Computer Entertainment, launched a scathing attack on Microsoft's Xbox console, claiming "they have no games".
Usually a quite and reserved man (well, for a president of a multi-national corporation, anyway), Kutaragi is not usually known for outbursts like this, but the Xbox has clearly touched a nerve. "Microsoft was finished before it even got started. They have no games" said Kutaragi in an interview with the Financial Times. He also claimed that Microsoft have "put themselves out of the game" after their E3 showing. Microsoft had an impressive E3 show, but it was overshadowed by Nintendo's monster games and the news that the Gamecube would go on sale three days before the Xbox in the US, for $100 cheaper.
Kutaragi reflected on the Xbox E3 offerings, citing them as "disappointing". He also added that "Microsoft does not understand the entertainment business". Still, there's no doubting the sheer power of the Xbox - it is still the most powerful console out there. The Xbox WILL have some great games at launch, although they might not be around at the moment. Games like Unreal Championship and Championship Manager 4 will ensure that the Xbox will not be completely ignored and with companies like Sega, EA and Capcom on Microsoft's side, Kutaragi may end up eating his words.
Ok, so maybe you could've read it there, but honestly not all of you would have done so, or been able to read my comments! So, what does this mean? Well, at first impressions I thought maybe it'd make more sense if you replace the word Xbox with 'PlayStation 2' and the word Mircrosft with 'Sony', but I doubt anyone here would believe it, although it'd be more true to life.
Methinks Sony is running scared of the Xbox, although they know the PS2 is selling well, the PSone is still unlawfully outselling everything under the sun! But Xbox will be impressive and a comment like this is surely a deterant, and will have a rippling effects on the games industry - expect Bill Gates and his army to be waltzing round each and every city in the world, preaching the good word of Xbox - deary me, it's getting worse than the elections! Either way, this will surely spark a reaction from Microsoft and the rest of the 'big players' and I could bank on the Xbox suddenly becoming the most wanted games machine. After the astounding GameCube of course!!
Anyway, due to Nintendo's unrivalled showing at E3, all the rumours are quashed about it being canned - never mind Kutaragi!!! But remember, last year at E3 it was Sega who impressed the most with some startling titles, but look what happened to them? However I doubt Nintendo will do achieve anything less than market leadership with Gamcube - they have the money to promote the thing like crazy, and already have the respect of gamers across the world. So, whatever happens, have fun, thanks for reading, and don't shot me in the foot - it'd hurt!
Dan2K1
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Well nintendo has gathered many developers to their machine Sony have slightly faded away a bit after E3....
And don't forget there's more to come from that show we didn't see.
And don't forget there's more to come from that show we didn't see.
The other problem with that article - and I apologise to whoever it is at SR that wrote it - is that Sega, EA and Capcom are certainly not "on Microsoft's side".
Each platform has its 'exclusive' developers, but the three mentioned have not taken sides in any way; all of them are producing software for all three of the platforms mentioned (PS2, GC, X-Box).
Each platform has its 'exclusive' developers, but the three mentioned have not taken sides in any way; all of them are producing software for all three of the platforms mentioned (PS2, GC, X-Box).
I took the Nintendo guys comment the way it was supposed to be. Nintendo knew well in advance that they would wipe the floor at E3 by keeping their line up under their belt, as no one was expecting them to make half of the announcements they did. What surprised me was Microsofts poor E3 performance in the media.
It is also funny how Mr. Nintendo's recent rants and comments about shelving GC were all taken as being "obviously mis-interpreted", yet Mr. Sony's rant is taken at face value...
Personally, I think X-Box may have a tougher time than many people think. So far, there have been faked screenshots, and two demos of the console which crashed. Not exactly a confidence builder.
Personally, I think X-Box may have a tougher time than many people think. So far, there have been faked screenshots, and two demos of the console which crashed. Not exactly a confidence builder.
pb wrote:
> The Xbox represents something new and exciting
No, it represents something buggy and crap. A lot like a certain Lionheart game.
Sorry, just couldn't resist the dig!
> The Xbox represents something new and exciting
No, it represents something buggy and crap. A lot like a certain Lionheart game.
Sorry, just couldn't resist the dig!
Pb makes a good point, the industry basically does what it thinks will make them money, i.e. EA and FIFA. Sony has a massive user base already installed and if it starts to get its killer apps out aroung the same time as the other 2 launch, it may just kill them off within 6 months.
I didn't read it on the news page, I read it in the FT.
Ok, so it was a works copy of the FT, I'm not some pin-striped businessman you know.
It does make you wonder, however, when you read the rest of the Financial Times report it sounds a bit more far fetched:
"..."Retailers told me that on a dollar base, they expect 70 per cent of their sales to come from Playstation. The remaining 30 percent will come from Nintendo and Xbox but almost all of that will be from Nintendo." Mr Kutaragi was confident Nintendo - Sony's former partner in gaming - would gain some market share because of its past success developing games software. "The next game platform belongs to Sony and Nintendo," he said, refering to the next generation consoles.
Nintendo, which announces its annual results today, impressed analysts and executives with its titles at E3. Although it is only expected to have two or three games when the GameCube goes on sale in Japan on September 14, analysts expect the console's graphics and $199 price will be an attractive combination." Financial Times, Companies and Markets Section, Thursday,May 14 2001.
Hm. Sony and Nintendo have only been partners for a machine that never came out and later became the Playstation, Gamecube release only having 3 games? hm, not what I heard. But then who am I to question the might of the Financial Times or the judgement of the most unbiased Ken Kutaragi, who just happens to be president of a rival company to both consoles.
Xbox isn't being given a chance by 'the industry' but then it's not really about the industry, is it? It's about the millions of gamesplayers and would-be gamesplayers around the world, waiting for the chance to play on something new. The Xbox represents something new and exciting, as does the GameCube. While I would put money on Nintendo's baby. Just because Microsoft is new to the games console market, doesn't mean they won't do well, a certain other company were the new guys not so long ago.
Perhaps it's the classic case of 'pick on the newbies' that happens so often on chatrooms and forums? Still, it makes a change from Microsoft complaining about other companies, I suppose.
Ok, so it was a works copy of the FT, I'm not some pin-striped businessman you know.
It does make you wonder, however, when you read the rest of the Financial Times report it sounds a bit more far fetched:
"..."Retailers told me that on a dollar base, they expect 70 per cent of their sales to come from Playstation. The remaining 30 percent will come from Nintendo and Xbox but almost all of that will be from Nintendo." Mr Kutaragi was confident Nintendo - Sony's former partner in gaming - would gain some market share because of its past success developing games software. "The next game platform belongs to Sony and Nintendo," he said, refering to the next generation consoles.
Nintendo, which announces its annual results today, impressed analysts and executives with its titles at E3. Although it is only expected to have two or three games when the GameCube goes on sale in Japan on September 14, analysts expect the console's graphics and $199 price will be an attractive combination." Financial Times, Companies and Markets Section, Thursday,May 14 2001.
Hm. Sony and Nintendo have only been partners for a machine that never came out and later became the Playstation, Gamecube release only having 3 games? hm, not what I heard. But then who am I to question the might of the Financial Times or the judgement of the most unbiased Ken Kutaragi, who just happens to be president of a rival company to both consoles.
Xbox isn't being given a chance by 'the industry' but then it's not really about the industry, is it? It's about the millions of gamesplayers and would-be gamesplayers around the world, waiting for the chance to play on something new. The Xbox represents something new and exciting, as does the GameCube. While I would put money on Nintendo's baby. Just because Microsoft is new to the games console market, doesn't mean they won't do well, a certain other company were the new guys not so long ago.
Perhaps it's the classic case of 'pick on the newbies' that happens so often on chatrooms and forums? Still, it makes a change from Microsoft complaining about other companies, I suppose.
Point one, Sega are making games for them all
Point two, Sony have a 12, 000, 000 head start
Point three, The xbox will struggle to get any better than it is now (see my post in the PS2 physics thread to find out why!)
Point four, at E3 nintendo won, but Sony did come a close second, it just got less publicity because no one knew what it was doing. for instance how many people knew that sony displayed their modems working by letting people play Tony Hawkes 3 through its online mode??
Point two, Sony have a 12, 000, 000 head start
Point three, The xbox will struggle to get any better than it is now (see my post in the PS2 physics thread to find out why!)
Point four, at E3 nintendo won, but Sony did come a close second, it just got less publicity because no one knew what it was doing. for instance how many people knew that sony displayed their modems working by letting people play Tony Hawkes 3 through its online mode??
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