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Sun 27/02/05 at 21:33
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Just downloaded this due to the occasionally glitchy nature of IE. It seems to be the mutts nuts. I did have the original Mozilla which seemed generally inferior to the IE that was about at the time. So, are there any hidden major disadvantages of using Firefox - I remember I was unable to access my online banking with the old Mozilla.
Wed 02/03/05 at 13:36
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gamesfreak wrote:
> [URL]http://www.odeon.co.uk/Odeon/home.html[/URL]
>
> Another example of a crap coded site.

Ah, an old favorite!;)
Wed 02/03/05 at 13:28
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[URL]http://www.odeon.co.uk/Odeon/home.html[/URL]

Another example of a crap coded site.
Wed 02/03/05 at 09:06
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ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
> you there, why is it that when I log on to this page for example :
> [URL]http://info.laugar.co.uk/Default.htm[/URL] on IE, when I
> highlight say the 'About' bar, I get a drop down menu. but when I do
> it in Firefox, I get jack **?

It's one of those badly implemented "freebies" from JS sites.

The browser list in the JS for starters is, missing on small thing:

HM_DOM = (document.getElementById) ? true : false;
HM_NS4 = (document.layers) ? true : false;
HM_IE = (document.all) ? true : false;
HM_IE4 = HM_IE && !HM_DOM;
HM_Mac = (navigator.appVersion.indexOf("Mac") != -1);
HM_IE4M = HM_IE4 && HM_Mac;

//4.1
HM_Opera = (navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Opera")!=-1);
HM_Konqueror = (navigator.userAgent.indexOf("Konqueror")!=-1);

Spot the missing browser? In fact it's that old, IE5Mac is missing too! Just goes to show what happens when you download a script you don't really understand!;)

Here's one that works (which incidentally was built by moi) :

http://www.philosophicalgourmet.com/

Not too glamourous, but works in all browsers. Even better, is you can now do this without even sniffing at JS thanks to CSS.

So there you go. It's not the browsers fault, it be the fault of the coder. There's nothing wrong with Firefox!;)
Wed 02/03/05 at 01:05
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it looks like it loads one of those MS-specific .js files in the header section to handle the menu popups.
like the ones that handle all the DHTML effects in frontpage.

it's a design issue i'd say as it's possible to achieve a popup-list in all browsers.
novatech.co.uk for example has menus lists that appear on a mouseover and it works fine in FF.
Tue 01/03/05 at 23:57
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you there, why is it that when I log on to this page for example : [URL]http://info.laugar.co.uk/Default.htm[/URL] on IE, when I highlight say the 'About' bar, I get a drop down menu. but when I do it in Firefox, I get jack sh?
Tue 01/03/05 at 13:17
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[URL]http://homepage.ntlworld.com/paul.s.kennedy/firefox.zip[/URL]

right click and do "save as"

when it's downloaded:
run the registry file, and do file->open from firefox to open the .xpi file.
once that's done the stuff, close FF and reopen it again, see if that works.

NOTE: it worked for me, but if it doesn't for you lot, just remember that you installed it all of your own free will, don't cry to me :)
Mon 28/02/05 at 18:43
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Very_Metal wrote:
"IF you have this problem, there's a registry patch and a .xpi file to fix this (if anyone wants them, i can upload them and link for you)"

I think I might have a problem, not sure how it started, but I can't seem to play wmvs anymore, the colour has completely messed up.. I'll have to look into that.
Mon 28/02/05 at 08:42
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monkey_man wrote:
> CSS is slightly different, which is an ASS to sort out.

Lol, damn IE luddites! CSS is slightly different because FF renders it's correctly to W3C reccomendations. The ASS to sort out is CSS in IE when us realise what a pile o'pants IE's capabilities are!;)

Only real issue I've had with FF is Flash, but this is more down to Macromedia being really slow in getting a better programmed player out with full support for Chrome/Gecko than Firefox's handling.

27,000,000 million downloads in just over 100 days, they've obviously got something right!;) Netscape 8 is out soon using the Firefox engine and M$ are obviously concerned enough to have a total turn around on their road map for IE by releasing 7 as a standalone product.
Mon 28/02/05 at 00:12
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gamesfreak wrote:

> To be honest, I've not found a single disadvantage of running
> firefox.

there's a memory leak (so if you leave it open for a long time it'll much loads of memory) and the active X support needs work (being addressed before the 2nd major release, due end of year), but for a freebie, it's certainly leagues ahead of most other browsers, and more secure.
Mon 28/02/05 at 00:10
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Creepy wrote:
> No Windows Media Players on websites, it has a seizure then a mental
> break down.

IF you have this problem, there's a registry patch and a .xpi file to fix this (if anyone wants them, i can upload them and link for you)
personally i never had a problem as long as the correct .dll was where it should've been. the only hassle i've had with it is displaying WMV's from local locations when testing sites, if i upload them to my webspace to test them, they stream fine.

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