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Mon 21/02/05 at 22:36
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On channel 4, 23:05. Not seen it yet. Looking forward to it after Fahrenschmarenschmergenbergenheit 9/11.
Thu 24/02/05 at 22:35
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Because they don't need too. Once one lot has managed to gather freedom the rest will follow.

Time Cycloon.

I get annoyed by the anti-bush people, they're just the general Playstation loving, pop buying public that listen to the newspapers.
Thu 24/02/05 at 12:54
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What?

You hones**tly believe that because Iraq might eventually become a free s**tate that isn't in crisis, Bush will be regarded as a hero?

Yeah f**king right - Dringo, I'm not one of the 'I h8 Bush!11 Let's eat @ MaccyDs!' retards, although I'm not especially knowledgable about it all at the same time.

'Righteous'?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

Yeah, the righteous thing to do is to kill thousands of people for one cause 'WMDS1111!!!' and 'Protecting the Motherland', and then realising, 'oh sh*t, that went wrong, er FREEDOOMMM!!'

If they care so much, why aren't they 'liberating' all the other repressed peoples? Oh I forgot, because they don't care.
Thu 24/02/05 at 11:46
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No Cycloon I really don't agree with you. Granted there maybe false pretences surrounding why they invaded iraq but if ya gonna cry over some rhetoric then don't get involved in politics.

Yes Iraq is in a state right now, perhaps not much better than under Sadam, but it is GETTING better.

It could have been handled better, sorted out better. But remember Europeans appeasement is what pretty much led to the wide spread dominance of the Nazi Party. George Bush is a fool, perhaps doesn't deserve his position. But he has done a good and righteous thing by invading Iraq. He is helping that country come out from under its shell, the people now have rights, they have a say and most of all they are free.

Granted violence still exists but it will die down and the country will become rich, they will overcome their problems of poverty and most of all they'll influence them around them. Other middle eastern countries, seeing the freedom of Iraq may inspire them to take control of their own country too.

It is a pro-active response to try and end the suffering of millions. Sure it might be to do with oil or other selfish means you conspiracists want to harp on about but the fact is Iraq is now a free country. Do you know how much easier it will be to help people during this climate change if the countries in need are working with us and not against?

You may hate George Bush now but time will be kind to him, and when the prosperity of Iraq is revealed you'll, or at least your children will, admire him as a hero.

And for that I say no more.
Wed 23/02/05 at 23:00
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Damn straight.
Wed 23/02/05 at 22:48
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"gsybe you!"
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Dringo wrote:
> I guess so but I'm tired over the whole "bush is an idiot"
> thing, he is doing some good in the world. One day our grandchildren
> will be studying the great George Bush and how he helped begin the
> process of freeing the people of Iraq.

Utter bull.

Yes, 'Bush is bad' rhetoric is tiring.

But that's like saying simply because you're bored of somebody saying something you go and do the opposite. In a sibling rivalry, maybe. In terms of politics, no you don't, that's just idiotic. Bush is a dangerous man, as is the corporate world when it gets too powerful (i.e, about...oo......all the time), and his administration.

They invaded Iraq, illegally, under entirely different pretenses as to what they blabber about now.

Yeah, freedom. I forgot, that is what they care about so much. Freedom is ENTIRELY relative to the position you hold.
Wed 23/02/05 at 22:36
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by bombing the sh*t out of them.....?
Wed 23/02/05 at 22:29
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I guess so but I'm tired over the whole "bush is an idiot" thing, he is doing some good in the world. One day our grandchildren will be studying the great George Bush and how he helped begin the process of freeing the people of Iraq.
Wed 23/02/05 at 22:11
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A lot of Farenheit wasn't propaganda.

It just took some rather wild presumptions about things.

But Moore is hardly in the same level of 'trickery', 'lies', 'deception' and 'callousness' as his opponents are, agreed?

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Wed 23/02/05 at 22:06
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Bowling for Columbine destroys the propoganda filled knowledge of faranheit 9/11
Wed 23/02/05 at 21:54
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The best bit was the south-park style story of the USA.

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