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[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4270449.stm[/URL]
Some good news then, hopefully it'll make a difference.
Some good news then, hopefully it'll make a difference.
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Garin wrote:
> Either way, doesn't look like much to interest home users anyway.
Hmmm, I thought the filesystem had some sort of connection with having a database-based filesystem so files could be searched for and stored logically.
Or was that the next Mac filesystem.
I can't remember
Theoretically (apparently) you would of been able to type say "letter to george which I wrote yesterday" and it would be able to find it instantly etc
> Either way, doesn't look like much to interest home users anyway.
Hmmm, I thought the filesystem had some sort of connection with having a database-based filesystem so files could be searched for and stored logically.
Or was that the next Mac filesystem.
I can't remember
Theoretically (apparently) you would of been able to type say "letter to george which I wrote yesterday" and it would be able to find it instantly etc
gamesfreak wrote:
> I'm dissapointed about them dropping that new filesystem though,
> instead they're just going to be patching up NTFS again I
> think....(correct me if I am wrong)
Just been reading about WinFS actually. I'm not sure why it gets touted as a replacement for NTFS because looking at some structural diagrams (if they are correct), sitting at the bottom of WinFS is NTFS. So to me, it looks like several new layers dealing with data relationships and the low level stuff remains the same. They aren't dropping it per say either, just releasing it in a service pack after longhorn launch.
Either way, doesn't look like much to interest home users anyway.
> I'm dissapointed about them dropping that new filesystem though,
> instead they're just going to be patching up NTFS again I
> think....(correct me if I am wrong)
Just been reading about WinFS actually. I'm not sure why it gets touted as a replacement for NTFS because looking at some structural diagrams (if they are correct), sitting at the bottom of WinFS is NTFS. So to me, it looks like several new layers dealing with data relationships and the low level stuff remains the same. They aren't dropping it per say either, just releasing it in a service pack after longhorn launch.
Either way, doesn't look like much to interest home users anyway.
Just to contradict myself....
I installed Windows XP yesterday.
It's for a reason though, my A2 level Computing project is based on MS Access (we were forced to use it because the college is gay) and Crossover Office didn't work.
Couldn't be bothered with trying to Wine it either, so I had to install Windows again.
It's not a bad operating system to be honest, there is a lot of support for it, it's just there is too much stuff hidden away from us.
"Do you want to send this error report to Microsoft" etc etc, how do we know what is being sent.
If Windows was on the cheap I think it'd sell more, in fact, most Microsoft products are too expensive to buy for the average home user, which is why they move to piracy instead.
I bet at least 50% of people on this forum (excdept Tyla because he has a good job, a good computer and a lot of money :P) have pirated MS software on their machine.
Longhorn might be good, it might not. We haven't really seen much of it to formulate an opinion.
I'm dissapointed about them dropping that new filesystem though, instead they're just going to be patching up NTFS again I think....(correct me if I am wrong)
I installed Windows XP yesterday.
It's for a reason though, my A2 level Computing project is based on MS Access (we were forced to use it because the college is gay) and Crossover Office didn't work.
Couldn't be bothered with trying to Wine it either, so I had to install Windows again.
It's not a bad operating system to be honest, there is a lot of support for it, it's just there is too much stuff hidden away from us.
"Do you want to send this error report to Microsoft" etc etc, how do we know what is being sent.
If Windows was on the cheap I think it'd sell more, in fact, most Microsoft products are too expensive to buy for the average home user, which is why they move to piracy instead.
I bet at least 50% of people on this forum (excdept Tyla because he has a good job, a good computer and a lot of money :P) have pirated MS software on their machine.
Longhorn might be good, it might not. We haven't really seen much of it to formulate an opinion.
I'm dissapointed about them dropping that new filesystem though, instead they're just going to be patching up NTFS again I think....(correct me if I am wrong)
Chad Niga wrote:
> What's NeXT then?
> I've never heard of this. I thought apple made OS X from their stuff.
[URL]http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/history.html[/URL]
As good an explanation as any.
> What's NeXT then?
> I've never heard of this. I thought apple made OS X from their stuff.
[URL]http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/history.html[/URL]
As good an explanation as any.
What's NeXT then?
I've never heard of this. I thought apple made OS X from their stuff.
I've never heard of this. I thought apple made OS X from their stuff.
Tyla wrote:
> Oddly enough, I do, and agree totally with what you mean. Ideally M$
> need to do what Apple did back in 1999 and re develop their OS
> completly from the ground up. OSX was the best thing ever to happen
> to Apple and turned the company around from an OS point of view
> giving them one of the most robust, commercial OS's available today.
Apple didn't write OS X from the ground up. They licensed an existing OS (in fact they bought NeXT) and developed off that. And they started on it quite a few years before 99 too.
And Longhorn is as close to a total rewrite as you'll ever get I suspect (although we dont know for certain how much of a rewrite it is, MS hint at it but wont come out and say so directly). Either way, its simply not realistic to rewrite things of that size and scope while maintaining an acceptable level of backward compatibility and having a reasonable development time.
> Oddly enough, I do, and agree totally with what you mean. Ideally M$
> need to do what Apple did back in 1999 and re develop their OS
> completly from the ground up. OSX was the best thing ever to happen
> to Apple and turned the company around from an OS point of view
> giving them one of the most robust, commercial OS's available today.
Apple didn't write OS X from the ground up. They licensed an existing OS (in fact they bought NeXT) and developed off that. And they started on it quite a few years before 99 too.
And Longhorn is as close to a total rewrite as you'll ever get I suspect (although we dont know for certain how much of a rewrite it is, MS hint at it but wont come out and say so directly). Either way, its simply not realistic to rewrite things of that size and scope while maintaining an acceptable level of backward compatibility and having a reasonable development time.
Stop complaining - it costs £80 each time they bring out a new version!
I dont quite understand why longhorn is taking so long, they still say another year before it's realised.
By then, it'll be already out of date, surely??
And by then, apple would probably of released another ground breaking OS version and just make longhorn look silly.
Back in the day's of 95, 98, 98SE, ME, etc, i think MS were on the ball, bringing out new things every 2 years.
But we'll be waiting 4 years between XP and longhorn. It's silly.
By then, it'll be already out of date, surely??
And by then, apple would probably of released another ground breaking OS version and just make longhorn look silly.
Back in the day's of 95, 98, 98SE, ME, etc, i think MS were on the ball, bringing out new things every 2 years.
But we'll be waiting 4 years between XP and longhorn. It's silly.
Chad Niga wrote:
> Microsoft make me laugh, i honestly dont see how they do so well,
> security problems, to be fair, in this day and age, and considering
> they are the bigest company in the world, they should be able to make
> something better against hackers then IE is.
Linux is far more vulnerable to security holes than Windows as it's open source. Windows rarely has an occasion where a security breach is made before they spot it, it's only happened a few times.
With Linux security holes are 'easily' found due to the open source meaning you have to keep updated all the time.
> Microsoft make me laugh, i honestly dont see how they do so well,
> security problems, to be fair, in this day and age, and considering
> they are the bigest company in the world, they should be able to make
> something better against hackers then IE is.
Linux is far more vulnerable to security holes than Windows as it's open source. Windows rarely has an occasion where a security breach is made before they spot it, it's only happened a few times.
With Linux security holes are 'easily' found due to the open source meaning you have to keep updated all the time.
Chad Niga wrote:
> See where im going with that strange story...
Oddly enough, I do, and agree totally with what you mean. Ideally M$ need to do what Apple did back in 1999 and re develop their OS completly from the ground up. OSX was the best thing ever to happen to Apple and turned the company around from an OS point of view giving them one of the most robust, commercial OS's available today.
Will M$ acheive the same with Longhorn... No chance, especially as they've ditched most of the "revolutionary" things already!
> See where im going with that strange story...
Oddly enough, I do, and agree totally with what you mean. Ideally M$ need to do what Apple did back in 1999 and re develop their OS completly from the ground up. OSX was the best thing ever to happen to Apple and turned the company around from an OS point of view giving them one of the most robust, commercial OS's available today.
Will M$ acheive the same with Longhorn... No chance, especially as they've ditched most of the "revolutionary" things already!
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