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Thu 13/01/05 at 12:58
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"Wanking Mong"
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You remember Iraq? The place where over 100,000 civilians are thought to have been killed since the war was declared to be over? The land we went to liberate from oppression and torture by...well, oppressing and torturing them?

Remember why we went there? "Evildoers! Big Guns!! Huge Bombs!! Nuclear and Biological Apocalypse! 45 minutes until DOOMSDAY!!!"

Well, alas it's now been confirmed that the whole raison d'etre for the war was a fantasy on a par with anything Tolkein wrote.

[URL]http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1389370,00.html[/URL]



And cue and increasingly bovine public not giving a damn about brown people suffering, just so long as they get their petrol and tax cuts innit?
Sun 16/01/05 at 23:57
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I think the saddest moment of my life was when, as I passed from childhood to adulthood, I realised that adults were not imparted with endless wisdom, maturity and clarity of thought. In fact they are no different to children except for the experience accrued during their additional time on the planet.

When you look at the world in that way, you realise these so called world leaders are no different to you or me, and are compelled to act due to any random whim or state of mind they find themselves in. Sure, there are rules to be adhered to, but these rules can, as is now evident, be manipulated. The people steering the good ship Earth are no more qualified to do it, than an amateur philosopher. Knowing this invalidates any respect I may have had for these people, any allegiance to their ideas that I am supposed to have, and any confidence in the direction our confused way of life is heading in.

It's difficult to find any single event that has occured in recent times, or identify any positive action taken by so called 'world leaders', that suggests things will improve in the future.

I am available for childrens parties, by the way.
Sat 15/01/05 at 12:14
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"Slice n Dice baby"
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Sad but true.

Anyone or any country which wishes to stand up against the playground bully (America) will be ignored or not taken seriously, and the only way for them to be at least acknowledged is by means of force/war. That makes me angry because America in a sense is aggrivating everyone, and when they try to stand up against them, they get beaten into submission.

America has the dominance over the world. But i can see a point down the road where countries like the UK will just turn around and say "get bent" to the USA. If we were to goto war with them, the good ol SAS would kick the USA's slack jawed yolk'le troops. They have numbers, we have skill.
Sat 15/01/05 at 08:56
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"Don't let me down"
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ShortyUK wrote

>I think the more contravertial (spelt wrong i know) issue is the fact that Tony.B and Bush are being seen as heros for donating money to the tsunami thing, diverting attention away from the massacre they created in Iraq, trying put a out a good impression of themselves.

[URL]http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-01-14-voa7.cfm[/URL]

They stop one aid because they can't catch indicted war crimes fugitives. Well, let me tell you Bush, your a war criminal. The people who need it most in Serbia arn't getting the funds they need because of a hypocrite in power who's guilty of doing almost the same thing but with yourself.

So there 3 year $100 million economic package depends on which bad guys they catch. So what thought has gone into the people who need it most? None, they dont care.
Fri 14/01/05 at 17:12
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"Slice n Dice baby"
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I think the more contravertial (spelt wrong i know) issue is the fact that Tony.B and Bush are being seen as heros for donating money to the tsunami thing, diverting attention away from the massacre they created in Iraq, trying put a out a good impression of themselves.

Fortunately, alot of people have seen through this, and the hatred for both leaders is increasing, thank god.
Fri 14/01/05 at 17:02
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Yep.
Just like the "outrage" of beheadings. Which continue. It's just not Brits at the moment.
Just like the carbombings which continue.
And give it a week, the tsunami wil be soooo January.
Fri 14/01/05 at 16:45
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Armatige Shanks wrote:
> Its not that I don’t give a damn, its just that I have the tsunami
> victims to worry about now - their suffering is new and interesting,
> whilst the Iraq's suffering is old and boring.

This is the exact thing the Media has done, it's aimed it's programming at people with this sort of attitude.

I don't wish to disrespect the people who lost their lifes to the tsunami, but lets get facts straight here.

Seen any news about Iraq on television recently? Thought not, You see, the media has become bored of the whole thing and the tsunami happened at the time when they could jump and bite their teeth into.
Fri 14/01/05 at 16:39
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"Slice n Dice baby"
Posts: 135
And the government wonders why everyone hates them.

If i ever met Tony Blair i would pull his ears off.

If i ever met George Bush i would pull his head off. Ugly as a monkey.
Fri 14/01/05 at 14:34
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Light wrote:
> And cue and increasingly bovine public not giving a damn about brown
> people suffering, just so long as they get their petrol and tax cuts
> innit?

Its not that I don’t give a damn, its just that I have the tsunami victims to worry about now - their suffering is new and interesting, whilst the Iraq's suffering is old and boring.
Fri 14/01/05 at 12:19
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Aren't the elections very soon?

Why no news?

Actually, I lie, I have heard tiny snippets of various car bombs killing lots of people. Lovely.
Thu 13/01/05 at 20:41
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"be happy"
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Yes, Blair and Bush are loving it that Iraq is off the main agenda. The WMD threat, the main excuse for the slaughter of thousands of innocent Iraqis, is now OFFICIALLY bullsh*t. But most people will have missed the story.

Makes me sick, they want the world to see them as generous life-savers, organizing the relief effort, while the towns-people of Fallujah still have no homes to return to, no running water, electricity, etc, after their monstrous illegal bombing.

The US-led economic sanctions of Iraq caused deaths equivalent to 10 asian tsunamis, but there was no public response to that. The whole of Iraq lies in virtual ruins, but its far more palletable to show us pictures of a natural disaster than one caused by the people who run our country

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