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Right, as many of you may have seen I know pretty much nothing about computers.
A year and a half ago my parents got me a Dell Dimension 2400, mainly as it was quite good value for what I wanted it for. (Internet, writing essays and storing music/pictures).
However, I kind of want to play new games on it now but this system isn't that great for it... so I'm going to upgrade it as best I can. I probably should just use the money to buy a mac or something but my parents would go mental, probably.
Here it is here [URL]http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Dell_Dimension_2400_Cel_2_20GHz_128MB_40GB[/URL]
I have only have one slot for memory, so I'm thinking of getting a stick of 512 RAM, plus I need a really good graphics card.
Erm, so please help tell me what I need and any suggestions. Plus, do I need a new motherboard?
A year and a half ago my parents got me a Dell Dimension 2400, mainly as it was quite good value for what I wanted it for. (Internet, writing essays and storing music/pictures).
However, I kind of want to play new games on it now but this system isn't that great for it... so I'm going to upgrade it as best I can. I probably should just use the money to buy a mac or something but my parents would go mental, probably.
Here it is here [URL]http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Dell_Dimension_2400_Cel_2_20GHz_128MB_40GB[/URL]
I have only have one slot for memory, so I'm thinking of getting a stick of 512 RAM, plus I need a really good graphics card.
Erm, so please help tell me what I need and any suggestions. Plus, do I need a new motherboard?
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Bonus wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong.
>
>
> You really haven't built many computers have you :D
Why, yes. I've built / upgraded about 5 home machines, and umpteen in my previous employment. Never had any sort of problems.
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong.
>
>
> You really haven't built many computers have you :D
Why, yes. I've built / upgraded about 5 home machines, and umpteen in my previous employment. Never had any sort of problems.
When's a new console out then?
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gerrid wrote:
> I was just giving an example - there's lots of things that could go
> wrong and break your components, so if you don't know what you're
> doing then it's not worth the risk.
True, but it's the only way to learn and save third party fees in future. Out of approx 5 home machines I've built / upgraded, the only problem I had was with a shoddy PSU that blew a day afterwards. No components scrapped, but a "damn, I wish I had spent the extra 60 quid buying a new one".
The only other problem was memory in the wrong slot, and that could have been solved like most other problems, by RTFM.
> I was just giving an example - there's lots of things that could go
> wrong and break your components, so if you don't know what you're
> doing then it's not worth the risk.
True, but it's the only way to learn and save third party fees in future. Out of approx 5 home machines I've built / upgraded, the only problem I had was with a shoddy PSU that blew a day afterwards. No components scrapped, but a "damn, I wish I had spent the extra 60 quid buying a new one".
The only other problem was memory in the wrong slot, and that could have been solved like most other problems, by RTFM.
SHEEPY wrote:
> Right I'm building a PC from scratch
If you don't know why a motherboard might not boot becasue it is being grounded by copper stand-offs in the wrong place, you might need some help if things don't go smoothly :D.
Bring all your stuff through to Dundee and I will build it for you :D.
Got my new £80 Thermaltake Tsunami case yesterday, took me ages to figure out all the mistakes I'd made to get it to boot :D
> Right I'm building a PC from scratch
If you don't know why a motherboard might not boot becasue it is being grounded by copper stand-offs in the wrong place, you might need some help if things don't go smoothly :D.
Bring all your stuff through to Dundee and I will build it for you :D.
Got my new £80 Thermaltake Tsunami case yesterday, took me ages to figure out all the mistakes I'd made to get it to boot :D
Pandaemonium wrote:
> I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong.
You really haven't built many computers have you :D
My new motherboard has a capacitor right behind the 4 port power connector. My PSU has a clip on the same side to hold it in place, the two dont fit together, I cut the clip off, not advised, but I couldn't be bothered buying a new PSU.
Some people with less PC building experience might just have broken a motherboard or not had a clue what to do with that.
Also remember that Dell and Tiny and some of those companies use special small PSUs, which are not readily available in the shops. A normal PSU might not fit in any particular big brand PC case.
> I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong.
You really haven't built many computers have you :D
My new motherboard has a capacitor right behind the 4 port power connector. My PSU has a clip on the same side to hold it in place, the two dont fit together, I cut the clip off, not advised, but I couldn't be bothered buying a new PSU.
Some people with less PC building experience might just have broken a motherboard or not had a clue what to do with that.
Also remember that Dell and Tiny and some of those companies use special small PSUs, which are not readily available in the shops. A normal PSU might not fit in any particular big brand PC case.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong.
I was just giving an example - there's lots of things that could go wrong and break your components, so if you don't know what you're doing then it's not worth the risk.
> I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong.
I was just giving an example - there's lots of things that could go wrong and break your components, so if you don't know what you're doing then it's not worth the risk.
SHEEPY wrote:
> Who wants to here my new plan?
>
> Put up with my PC for a few more months. Stick some of my wages plus
> my upgrade money aside. Research into computers then buy a beast
> whislt selling my Dell crap for £100 or something.
You could, but that would mean buying a new CD-Writer hard drive etc, which may go above you're budget.
But hey, whatever you can afford buy.
PCs are always changing, and anything you buy will be out of date straight away.
PCI-Express is about to hit AMD platforms properly, as will dual channel DDR.
Then there is the problem of sockets. I just got a Socket 754 board, but AMD are already moving Athlon 64 to socket 939, which means I wont be able to upgrade much above what I have already.
Then again, you could always go to Intel, if you are more stupid than you are worried about value for money :D
> Who wants to here my new plan?
>
> Put up with my PC for a few more months. Stick some of my wages plus
> my upgrade money aside. Research into computers then buy a beast
> whislt selling my Dell crap for £100 or something.
You could, but that would mean buying a new CD-Writer hard drive etc, which may go above you're budget.
But hey, whatever you can afford buy.
PCs are always changing, and anything you buy will be out of date straight away.
PCI-Express is about to hit AMD platforms properly, as will dual channel DDR.
Then there is the problem of sockets. I just got a Socket 754 board, but AMD are already moving Athlon 64 to socket 939, which means I wont be able to upgrade much above what I have already.
Then again, you could always go to Intel, if you are more stupid than you are worried about value for money :D
I'm having a schizophrenic experience here
" Build one, don't bother, buy one, don't bother "
Only problem with broadband is that I have LAN in my house which took bloody ages to configure.
" Build one, don't bother, buy one, don't bother "
Only problem with broadband is that I have LAN in my house which took bloody ages to configure.
gerrid wrote:
> Yes you could fail miserably. If you're not confident then go to a
> shop asnd ask them to do it. It'll usually cost about £50. You
> may end up wiring the PSU wrong and melting all your hard earned
> components.
I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong. All you do is put the two plugs in, and that's simplicily itself. Most nervous part of pc building I feel is installing the cpu / heastink and installing the memory. Everything else is a piece of pish.
> Yes you could fail miserably. If you're not confident then go to a
> shop asnd ask them to do it. It'll usually cost about £50. You
> may end up wiring the PSU wrong and melting all your hard earned
> components.
I can't see any possible way of wiring a PSU up wrong. All you do is put the two plugs in, and that's simplicily itself. Most nervous part of pc building I feel is installing the cpu / heastink and installing the memory. Everything else is a piece of pish.
oh and you should be able to set up your broadband easy. They make it so that you can do it if you are able to read and follow simple instructions.
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