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What do people think of this?
[URL]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/26/lycos_europe_spam_blitz/[/URL]
I'm not convinced about the legality of it, but I've downloaded it. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to work from behind the Uni's firewall. Damn.
[URL]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/11/26/lycos_europe_spam_blitz/[/URL]
I'm not convinced about the legality of it, but I've downloaded it. Unfortunately it doesn't appear to work from behind the Uni's firewall. Damn.
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Shame.
Can't fight fire with fire.
Two rights don't make a wrong.
And such-like sayings.
Shame.
Can't fight fire with fire.
Two rights don't make a wrong.
And such-like sayings.
Lycos have changed their IP Address as well - supposedly because the spammers just redirected any traffic back at makelovenotspam.com
Hmmm....didn't last long. :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4065751.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4065751.stm
I might be wrong, but I think Lycos Europe and Lycos US are now totally seperate companies.
It's an interesting way of getting back at the spammers. However, I have a montly download cap, so won't be partaking.
It's an interesting way of getting back at the spammers. However, I have a montly download cap, so won't be partaking.
Bang.
It's pretty obvious that something needs to be done about spam, but it's even more blatant that Lycos is going about it the wrong way...
It's pretty obvious that something needs to be done about spam, but it's even more blatant that Lycos is going about it the wrong way...
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Yes, reread the quote you've posted.
> "Several tests are performed to make sure that no server
> stops working." - In other words, they aren't flooding the
> server with requests so that it is unable to respond, or to put it
> another way, they aren't carrying out a DDoS.
> Lycos is a US company, DDoS attacks are a federal offense there. I
> doubt very much they'd break the law in such a blatant manner.
>
> Ahhhhh, missed that.
On the other hand, maybe they are stupid enough...
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4061375.stm[/URL]
Also just noticed its Lycos Europe thats taking responsibility for this, so maybe they do think they're on shaky legal ground as laws over here are a bit more vague on DDoS.
> Yes, reread the quote you've posted.
> "Several tests are performed to make sure that no server
> stops working." - In other words, they aren't flooding the
> server with requests so that it is unable to respond, or to put it
> another way, they aren't carrying out a DDoS.
> Lycos is a US company, DDoS attacks are a federal offense there. I
> doubt very much they'd break the law in such a blatant manner.
>
> Ahhhhh, missed that.
On the other hand, maybe they are stupid enough...
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4061375.stm[/URL]
Also just noticed its Lycos Europe thats taking responsibility for this, so maybe they do think they're on shaky legal ground as laws over here are a bit more vague on DDoS.
Garin wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Did you read the article?
>
>
> Yes, reread the quote you've posted.
> "Several tests are performed to make sure that no server
> stops working." - In other words, they aren't flooding the
> server with requests so that it is unable to respond, or to put it
> another way, they aren't carrying out a DDoS.
> Lycos is a US company, DDoS attacks are a federal offense there. I
> doubt very much they'd break the law in such a blatant manner.
Ahhhhh, missed that.
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Did you read the article?
>
>
> Yes, reread the quote you've posted.
> "Several tests are performed to make sure that no server
> stops working." - In other words, they aren't flooding the
> server with requests so that it is unable to respond, or to put it
> another way, they aren't carrying out a DDoS.
> Lycos is a US company, DDoS attacks are a federal offense there. I
> doubt very much they'd break the law in such a blatant manner.
Ahhhhh, missed that.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Did you read the article?
>
Yes, reread the quote you've posted.
"Several tests are performed to make sure that no server stops working." - In other words, they aren't flooding the server with requests so that it is unable to respond, or to put it another way, they aren't carrying out a DDoS.
Lycos is a US company, DDoS attacks are a federal offense there. I doubt very much they'd break the law in such a blatant manner.
> Did you read the article?
>
Yes, reread the quote you've posted.
"Several tests are performed to make sure that no server stops working." - In other words, they aren't flooding the server with requests so that it is unable to respond, or to put it another way, they aren't carrying out a DDoS.
Lycos is a US company, DDoS attacks are a federal offense there. I doubt very much they'd break the law in such a blatant manner.
Garin wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> I'm against spam, but surely setting up a distributed denial of
> service attack is not the correct way to go about things?
>
> Well its not DDoS is it, as thats illegal.
Did you read the article?
"The servers targeted by the screensaver have been manually selected from various sources, including Spamcop, and verified to be spam advertising sites, Lycos claims. Several tests are performed to make sure that no server stops working. Flooding a server with requests so that the server is unable to respond to the volume of requests made - a process known as a distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack - is considered to be illegal."
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> I'm against spam, but surely setting up a distributed denial of
> service attack is not the correct way to go about things?
>
> Well its not DDoS is it, as thats illegal.
Did you read the article?
"The servers targeted by the screensaver have been manually selected from various sources, including Spamcop, and verified to be spam advertising sites, Lycos claims. Several tests are performed to make sure that no server stops working. Flooding a server with requests so that the server is unable to respond to the volume of requests made - a process known as a distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack - is considered to be illegal."
Its just a scam in itself, really.
I would much rather use a spam stopping tool made by someone who wasnt trying to profit out of it. Every news site has a story about it and Lycos's hits will be increased this month due to the coverage, until google brings something new out next month.
Cycle of money making, clever really. But like I said, someone who tried to stop spam because they really wanted to would be different, and I would support them.
DoS attacks are not nice, and this is pratically what Lycos is promoting/doing.
DoS attacks are getting old anyway and are not favoured in hacking communities.
Dont bother using this program, people just generally have there spam blocked out by filters now and the problem should die out.
I would much rather use a spam stopping tool made by someone who wasnt trying to profit out of it. Every news site has a story about it and Lycos's hits will be increased this month due to the coverage, until google brings something new out next month.
Cycle of money making, clever really. But like I said, someone who tried to stop spam because they really wanted to would be different, and I would support them.
DoS attacks are not nice, and this is pratically what Lycos is promoting/doing.
DoS attacks are getting old anyway and are not favoured in hacking communities.
Dont bother using this program, people just generally have there spam blocked out by filters now and the problem should die out.
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