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Fri 29/10/04 at 14:20
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What qualifies a sport to be a ‘sport’. I ask this question as in my mind there are several ‘sports’ that aren’t really a sport at all.

If you class a sport as something that’s competitive, then finding a car parking space in a shopping centre is a sport. Playing a computer game against a mate is a sport. But the reality is these aren’t sports, ones blooming annoying and ones a hobby. Therefore it leads me to wonder is several of todays sports should actually be reclassified as hobbies or pastimes rather than a sport.

Darts

Now how can anyone call darts a sport? What qualifies you to become a darts player is that you must:

a) Drink lots of beer.
b) Be really fat…not huge…but bordering on morbidly obese. Pork scratchings are available for free to anyone that looks healthy and fit
c) Have to have cleaned out your local Argos store of all its Elizabeth Duke jewellery…but only the 9ct stuff!!
d) A collection of silk shirts in size XXXL, all with a stupid nickname and pathetic attempt at a cartoon on the back
e) Sweat a lot. If you don’t sweat then you ain’t gonna make it.

Once you’ve qualified using the points above, you can then stand behind a little white line and through some Darts at a board…hmmm fun!! But how has it been classed a sport. There’s no physical activity going on apart from the walk to the dart board once you’ve thrown your darts and back again…hardly strenuous is it.

Cricket

Now how anything that has one game that drags on and on for days and 99% of the time people are just standing about can be classed as a sport is beyond me. It’s entirely possible that a fielder could be standing in one area where the ball never gets hit and have to do no running or physical activity at all. Not only that if you’re batting, if you’re not currently one of the batters, then you just get to sit down and watch for hours whilst two men try their hardest to bearly hit the ball more that 6ft along the ground.

Again though how can these people be classed as ‘sportsmen’ when half of them look overweight and are old enough to be your dad, or worse, your granddad. I mean look at some of the ambassadors for the sport…Ian Botham (or beefy…just a nice way of saying Fat!), Shane Warne, Phil Tuffnel…hardly a whos who of ‘sporting’ greats is it!!

Snooker

Another ‘sport’ that is more like a pastime or a hobby. Anyone that dresses up in a shirt, waistcoat, trousers and shoes whilst they’re playing a ‘sport’ can’t be doing just that. That sort of clothing would restrict your movement and ability to move quickly. But yet again it doesn’t matter, as you can be just like a darts player fat, sweaty etc etc and still be classed as a ‘sportsmen’. Look at the likes of the dinosaurs in the game that are still playing such as Terry Griffith, Willie Thorn, Ray Readon etc They’re not ‘sportsmen’, they’re a couple of old guys knocking a few balls around a table with a stick. Granted it’s a skill to do it with such precision and in a certain sequence, but its still hardly a sport is it.

Golf

This is classed as a popular pastime for English folks of 100yrs ago, so how can it be a sport if it’s a pastime. Especially seeing as once again you can still be out of shape and have Beyatch-T*ts like John Daily or Colin Montgomery but still be classed as a ‘sportsman’ even though you’re just smacking a tiny ball with a stick. If you’re even too fat like the Walrus or even just plain lazy, then you can get a golf cart to carry you and your doughnuts to bunker where your balls ended up.

I would class a sport as something that not only requires skill, but something that requires stamina and the need to be physically at the very best you can be…Ron Jeremy’s out on that last count then!! I know there will be some people now slating stuff like WWE, but that does what it says on the tin…Its Sports ENTERTAINMENT! Now all we need to get them to do is to reclassify the above sports as this:

Darts becomes – FFBS Darts (Fatty Boom Boom Sports)
Cricket – SI Cricket (Sport for the Insomniacs)
Snooker – Walob Snooker (What a load of (sports) balls)
Golf – DS Golf (Depressing Sports)
Sat 30/10/04 at 22:27
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Sat 30/10/04 at 22:24
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When girls can play it and not be insulted for it.









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A sport ain't a sport when it doesn't involve competition of performance in a leisure time. This means it cannot be work, but can be a profession.
Sat 30/10/04 at 20:56
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When it's called Netball :-D
Sat 30/10/04 at 01:55
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Ashley wrote:
> um the sports you named are clearly sports.
>
> i thought you were going to take the sensible argument and lay in to
> motor racing and horse racing. which clearly aren't sport. i think
> sport is principly were use of the body is the crucial factor, not
> large scale dependence on a machine or other lifeform

Sorry mate, have to disagree, motor racers are extremely fitness freaks, they have to be to be able to stay racing for long periods of time where they are exposed to high speeds that a body should not have to deal with.

And Horse racing is very demanding, the jockeys have to be very fit and be at their optimum weight for rides so calling these events not sporting you are wrong.
Fri 29/10/04 at 19:54
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um the sports you named are clearly sports.

i thought you were going to take the sensible argument and lay in to motor racing and horse racing. which clearly aren't sport. i think sport is principly were use of the body is the crucial factor, not large scale dependence on a machine or other lifeform
Fri 29/10/04 at 19:34
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Look sport up in the dictionary, and then use your head.
Fri 29/10/04 at 19:33
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Cricket and Golf are definitely sports and it would be wrong to say it wasn't.

Also think the other two are aswell, although it's debatable.
Fri 29/10/04 at 16:39
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1. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively.
2. A particular form of this activity. An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
3. An active pastime; recreation.

The third.

What makes football a sport?
A goalkeeper can stand around for a whole game, not having to make a save, but he's still a sportsman.
Regular golfers have to walk several miles carrying a heavy bag on thier backs, that's exhausting.
Darts players have to stand up whilst drunk.
Cricket players run

What makes Horse Racing a sport? It's the horse that's doing the work.
Or how about Bobsleighing?
Sailing (the wind does the work)

Oh. Hang on.
Fri 29/10/04 at 15:49
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Darts players sweat a lot because they aren't allowed to put the air conditioning on in the places they play because it affects the flight of the darts. Add all the lights and it gets quite hot up on stage.

The fact is, darts, cricket, golf and snooker all require a decent amount of commitment and practise to become the best. Darts requires lots of practise, accuracy and stamina (in the longer matches). Cricket requires a lot of practise to become good at it. Golf is actually pretty difficult. I've played a bit of golf and it's not easy. Snooker also requires dedication and practise.

It does seem that you equate the term 'sport' with 'entertainment'. In a way, a sport is out to entertain others. The only person it should entertain is the people playing it, in my opinion. Some people enjoy watching the 'sports' you mentioned. Some don't. That's why we have the option to watch it or not.

I've played all of the sports mentioned to a limited degree and I've enjoyed them all. I've also sat and watched them all too. Cricket was the hardest one to get into but it's not all that bad.

I think it's comes down to personal taste. Whether it's a sport or not, who cares? If you like it, watch it. If you don't, don't. Simple as that.
Fri 29/10/04 at 15:04
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We had a similar sort of discussion in Sport Studies back in 6th form, many of us had different views, and we never really got a 100% answer. Its all down to personal views really.

I would argue that Motor Racing for example isnt a sport, but then someone who is a fan of it, would argue that it is.

With Cricket, i would say it is a sport, but its a sporting dinosaur. There was a time when people could go view the sport of its days on end, but times have changed, and its no longer possible.

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