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Continental Landscapes Ltd.
[URL]http://www.continental-landscapes.co.uk/[/URL]
Quick rebuild in 2.5 days. Not too chuffed as had to compromise with a hybrid layout, but am chuffed that it's the first SQL/ASP site I've built (ASP Sux BTW). Given it the quick once over, all seems ok in FF0.9.3 and IE6.
[URL]http://www.continental-landscapes.co.uk/[/URL]
Quick rebuild in 2.5 days. Not too chuffed as had to compromise with a hybrid layout, but am chuffed that it's the first SQL/ASP site I've built (ASP Sux BTW). Given it the quick once over, all seems ok in FF0.9.3 and IE6.
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Garin wrote:
> Miserableman wrote:
> What are you, Tyla's personal critic? Do you sit on his right
> shoulder dressed in a devils costume or something? You seem to be
> spending a lot of time trying to find flaws in his websites, I hope
> there isn't one of you following me around.
>
> It's a couple of days work and it looks pretty swish, give the guy a
> break.
>
> I guess the point is, Tyla is quite often willing to tear to pieces
> other people's work, no matter their experience or ability. Where as
> I don't agree with it, I think Hmmm...'s attitude of not giving Tyla
> a break is quite understandable in that light.
Nail on the Head! Garin
Young Tyla often comes across hollier than though with other peoples sites so I think it's only right that I spend the time to point out some home truths when I see them. All done resonably politely...
Take a look at continental-landscapes on the Way Back Machine (www.archive.org) and you will see that it's not exactly a New site - as Tyla did mention, but just some tweaking.
When people put up a hobby site obviously it would be out of order to critise but when a professional puts his site up for comment on this forum then I believe it's fair game.
PS Tyla - Not sure if this has been mentioned but on the Services page some of the Text links dissapear when you mouse-over...
I see from the code you're a MacroMedia fan, what happened to Notepad - "it's the only way to learn you know" ;¬)
> Miserableman wrote:
> What are you, Tyla's personal critic? Do you sit on his right
> shoulder dressed in a devils costume or something? You seem to be
> spending a lot of time trying to find flaws in his websites, I hope
> there isn't one of you following me around.
>
> It's a couple of days work and it looks pretty swish, give the guy a
> break.
>
> I guess the point is, Tyla is quite often willing to tear to pieces
> other people's work, no matter their experience or ability. Where as
> I don't agree with it, I think Hmmm...'s attitude of not giving Tyla
> a break is quite understandable in that light.
Nail on the Head! Garin
Young Tyla often comes across hollier than though with other peoples sites so I think it's only right that I spend the time to point out some home truths when I see them. All done resonably politely...
Take a look at continental-landscapes on the Way Back Machine (www.archive.org) and you will see that it's not exactly a New site - as Tyla did mention, but just some tweaking.
When people put up a hobby site obviously it would be out of order to critise but when a professional puts his site up for comment on this forum then I believe it's fair game.
PS Tyla - Not sure if this has been mentioned but on the Services page some of the Text links dissapear when you mouse-over...
I see from the code you're a MacroMedia fan, what happened to Notepad - "it's the only way to learn you know" ;¬)
I reckon that most criticism in this forum is given constructively. I posted my site for people to look at (and I will get round to finishing it soon - just as soon as freshers' week is over) and I was prepared for people to say it was cr@p. That's what criticism is.
Miserableman wrote:
> What are you, Tyla's personal critic? Do you sit on his right
> shoulder dressed in a devils costume or something? You seem to be
> spending a lot of time trying to find flaws in his websites, I hope
> there isn't one of you following me around.
>
> It's a couple of days work and it looks pretty swish, give the guy a
> break.
I guess the point is, Tyla is quite often willing to tear to pieces other people's work, no matter their experience or ability. Where as I don't agree with it, I think Hmmm...'s attitude of not giving Tyla a break is quite understandable in that light.
> What are you, Tyla's personal critic? Do you sit on his right
> shoulder dressed in a devils costume or something? You seem to be
> spending a lot of time trying to find flaws in his websites, I hope
> there isn't one of you following me around.
>
> It's a couple of days work and it looks pretty swish, give the guy a
> break.
I guess the point is, Tyla is quite often willing to tear to pieces other people's work, no matter their experience or ability. Where as I don't agree with it, I think Hmmm...'s attitude of not giving Tyla a break is quite understandable in that light.
I dont like ASP, its like PHP for losers.
I like your site design though. Its cool.
I like your site design though. Its cool.
cjh wrote:
> Is this bug listed anywhere? I'm sure I came across a whitespace bug
> a few weeks back - might be the same one.
There's a commong onw known in IE regarding TD's, but never come across a FF related one before.
> Do you mean the one in IE? As I think that could be solved if you are
> willing to wrap the link in another element and place the
> non-rollover image on that.
Oddly enough, There is a thread on the DO Forums about this which I was reading just now.
> Is this bug listed anywhere? I'm sure I came across a whitespace bug
> a few weeks back - might be the same one.
There's a commong onw known in IE regarding TD's, but never come across a FF related one before.
> Do you mean the one in IE? As I think that could be solved if you are
> willing to wrap the link in another element and place the
> non-rollover image on that.
Oddly enough, There is a thread on the DO Forums about this which I was reading just now.
Tyla wrote:
> especially when you discover a whitespace
> bug afterwards which requires you to place the whole thing on to one
> line of code becuase of Firefox!
Is this bug listed anywhere? I'm sure I came across a whitespace bug a few weeks back - might be the same one.
> There is a down side though to the CSS approach. Sometimes you can
> get flicker from the load/page change which is just as annoying as
> the js preload.
Do you mean the one in IE? As I think that could be solved if you are willing to wrap the link in another element and place the non-rollover image on that.
> especially when you discover a whitespace
> bug afterwards which requires you to place the whole thing on to one
> line of code becuase of Firefox!
Is this bug listed anywhere? I'm sure I came across a whitespace bug a few weeks back - might be the same one.
> There is a down side though to the CSS approach. Sometimes you can
> get flicker from the load/page change which is just as annoying as
> the js preload.
Do you mean the one in IE? As I think that could be solved if you are willing to wrap the link in another element and place the non-rollover image on that.
cjh wrote:
> Tyla wrote:
> May have worded that really badly!
>
> There's no may about it :)
>
> Something on the scale of that site though would have taken be weeks
> though, so nice job there. The only downside is that the top links
> take a second or two to pre-load before they swap - could you not
> have made the images transparent and altered the background colour
> with the :hover and :focus?
Origonally went with the ALA/Zeldman CSS rollover/Sprite swapping, but the font is a shi**y to get to work properly with no aliasing so transparency's look sh*te.
Annoyed that I gave in and went with the usual image/js approach, haven't used that in ages, especially when you discover a whitespace bug afterwards which requires you to place the whole thing on to one line of code becuase of Firefox!
There is a down side though to the CSS approach. Sometimes you can get flicker from the load/page change which is just as annoying as the js preload.
Image size could be smaller though which would help.
> Tyla wrote:
> May have worded that really badly!
>
> There's no may about it :)
>
> Something on the scale of that site though would have taken be weeks
> though, so nice job there. The only downside is that the top links
> take a second or two to pre-load before they swap - could you not
> have made the images transparent and altered the background colour
> with the :hover and :focus?
Origonally went with the ALA/Zeldman CSS rollover/Sprite swapping, but the font is a shi**y to get to work properly with no aliasing so transparency's look sh*te.
Annoyed that I gave in and went with the usual image/js approach, haven't used that in ages, especially when you discover a whitespace bug afterwards which requires you to place the whole thing on to one line of code becuase of Firefox!
There is a down side though to the CSS approach. Sometimes you can get flicker from the load/page change which is just as annoying as the js preload.
Image size could be smaller though which would help.
Miserableman wrote:
> What are you, Tyla's personal critic? Do you sit on his right
> shoulder dressed in a devils costume or something? You seem to be
> spending a lot of time trying to find flaws in his websites, I hope
> there isn't one of you following me around.
Critics are a good thing. I actually enjoy critisism. It's the only way to learn sometimes. It also sometimes takes a critic to point something obvious out that you nay have missed. Fesh pair of eye's and all that...
There's just a few things in response though...
1. The ignore button is a wonderful thing
2. Quality of work tends to be dictated to sometimes by budget/time constaraints. 2.5 days turn around with a difficult client also doesn't help.
3. CMS's don't help either. Biggest problem at the moment is the cost to build a CMS which can out put in valid code. It's expensice and difficult. It also doesn;t help being confined to M& architecture atm as this is unable to comply with basic standards such as html4.0 yet!
> What are you, Tyla's personal critic? Do you sit on his right
> shoulder dressed in a devils costume or something? You seem to be
> spending a lot of time trying to find flaws in his websites, I hope
> there isn't one of you following me around.
Critics are a good thing. I actually enjoy critisism. It's the only way to learn sometimes. It also sometimes takes a critic to point something obvious out that you nay have missed. Fesh pair of eye's and all that...
There's just a few things in response though...
1. The ignore button is a wonderful thing
2. Quality of work tends to be dictated to sometimes by budget/time constaraints. 2.5 days turn around with a difficult client also doesn't help.
3. CMS's don't help either. Biggest problem at the moment is the cost to build a CMS which can out put in valid code. It's expensice and difficult. It also doesn;t help being confined to M& architecture atm as this is unable to comply with basic standards such as html4.0 yet!
Tyla wrote:
> May have worded that really badly!
There's no may about it :)
Something on the scale of that site though would have taken be weeks though, so nice job there.
> May have worded that really badly!
There's no may about it :)
Something on the scale of that site though would have taken be weeks though, so nice job there.
cjh wrote:
> Though I am shocked at the use of an inline style, tut tut young
> Tyla.
The joys of quick fixes. (doesn't help when "Big Gay Al" is hassling you down the phone to get it up!)
May have worded that really badly!
> Though I am shocked at the use of an inline style, tut tut young
> Tyla.
The joys of quick fixes. (doesn't help when "Big Gay Al" is hassling you down the phone to get it up!)
May have worded that really badly!
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