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Main specs being:
AMD Athlon™ 64 3500+ Processor
Mainboard , 2000MHz SB, IEEE 1394, SATA
1024MB DDR 400 RAM Memory
300GB Serial ATA (150Mb/s) Ultra Fast Hard Drive
256MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 - TV-Out - DVI
17" TFT Flat Panel LCD Monitor
SONY 16x Dual Layer DVD-RW (R/W all standard formats)*
5.1 Surround Sound 6 Channel Audio
Creative Labs Soundblaster SBS260 Stereo Speakers
Only thing worrying me here is the Geforce FX 5500 card. I'm going to be playing alot of games on this thing, yet I just read a review this card isn't one of the best performers for games.
Was looking at a Radeon 9800 XT or something hmmmmmm.
So I have Doom 3 here, if I stick it in on that thing will it still look pretty or erm...run?
AMD Athlon™ 64 3500+ Processor
Mainboard , 2000MHz SB, IEEE 1394, SATA
1024MB DDR 400 RAM Memory
300GB Serial ATA (150Mb/s) Ultra Fast Hard Drive
256MB nVIDIA GeForce FX 5500 - TV-Out - DVI
17" TFT Flat Panel LCD Monitor
SONY 16x Dual Layer DVD-RW (R/W all standard formats)*
5.1 Surround Sound 6 Channel Audio
Creative Labs Soundblaster SBS260 Stereo Speakers
Only thing worrying me here is the Geforce FX 5500 card. I'm going to be playing alot of games on this thing, yet I just read a review this card isn't one of the best performers for games.
Was looking at a Radeon 9800 XT or something hmmmmmm.
So I have Doom 3 here, if I stick it in on that thing will it still look pretty or erm...run?
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So I've just gone back on the website where I bought the PC from in the original post and they have changed the graphics card yet kept the same price tag.
It's no longer a Geforce FX 5500, it's a Geforce FX 5700 LE.
Worth phoning up and saying "Oi, change that for me I paid the same price", or not?
It's no longer a Geforce FX 5500, it's a Geforce FX 5700 LE.
Worth phoning up and saying "Oi, change that for me I paid the same price", or not?
What you call good settings and what I call good settings are clearly two completey different things.
ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> It all depends on how good you want the game to look as well as how
> smooth you want it. Anything less than a 9800 PRO isn't going to be
> able to run Doom 3 on respectable settings without cut backs
> elsewhere.
No, my 9600XT runs it fine... With good settings.
> It all depends on how good you want the game to look as well as how
> smooth you want it. Anything less than a 9800 PRO isn't going to be
> able to run Doom 3 on respectable settings without cut backs
> elsewhere.
No, my 9600XT runs it fine... With good settings.
chippxero wrote:
> How comes you went with a athlon 64 bit? Just wondering as you could
> have higher cpu speed with a intel probably a 3.4ghz or something
> like that.
>
> But i haven't got a clue about the 64 bit function of the amd chip so
> if this is a stupid question mock me till i cry.
You will incur the wrath of the AMD crew *wink *wink ...
That 3500 will take out any (stock) Intel desktop processor currently out, because although clock for clock the Intels are faster, the AMDs do much more work per cycle...
Biggles or Cookie can fill you in if they haven't already below...
(Haven't really read through the thread)
> How comes you went with a athlon 64 bit? Just wondering as you could
> have higher cpu speed with a intel probably a 3.4ghz or something
> like that.
>
> But i haven't got a clue about the 64 bit function of the amd chip so
> if this is a stupid question mock me till i cry.
You will incur the wrath of the AMD crew *wink *wink ...
That 3500 will take out any (stock) Intel desktop processor currently out, because although clock for clock the Intels are faster, the AMDs do much more work per cycle...
Biggles or Cookie can fill you in if they haven't already below...
(Haven't really read through the thread)
DiscoDexy wrote:
> Ah, this computer will do me nicely for the price - where are you
> ordering from?
www.meshcomputers.com
My current PC is from them, no problems. The PC this post is regarding is in their January sale. Good deal.
> Ah, this computer will do me nicely for the price - where are you
> ordering from?
www.meshcomputers.com
My current PC is from them, no problems. The PC this post is regarding is in their January sale. Good deal.
I am wrong and what worse if i had clicked the next page in my link that i had posted it tells you it all :( i'm a fool, sorry for any misleading information i posted.
what type of graphics card slot do you have on the motherboard as i am assuming it's a APG one.
what type of graphics card slot do you have on the motherboard as i am assuming it's a APG one.
That would make my FX53 at FX55 speeds the equivalent of an Intel 2.6GHZ...
Notorious Biggles wrote:
> good Stuff.
Yeah, comparing CPU's on hz alone is an antiquated practice.
> good Stuff.
Yeah, comparing CPU's on hz alone is an antiquated practice.
If it is mainly for gaming then go for an Athlon 64. I have had some crap experiences with top end Intel Processors over the last couple of years, really crap performers when it comes to gaming. I wouldn't even consider Intel; my Athlon 2600 XP clocked at 3200 speeds performed better in games than my Intel 3.4 GHZ at 3.6GHZ with 1MB cache.
It all depends on how good you want the game to look as well as how smooth you want it. Anything less than a 9800 PRO isn't going to be able to run Doom 3 on respectable settings without cut backs elsewhere.
It all depends on how good you want the game to look as well as how smooth you want it. Anything less than a 9800 PRO isn't going to be able to run Doom 3 on respectable settings without cut backs elsewhere.
chippxero wrote:
> Oh yeah don't get me wrong you are buying a good AMD processor. It's
> just not as fast as a intel one you could have got for the same
> money.
>
> My housemate fell for their dirty name trick and got a 3000xp about a
> year ago thinking it was a 3ghz the up side of that though was he got
> a radeon 9800pro with his computer which.
Time for a little lesson in CPU architecture. Speed isn't everything. A Pentium 4 does more cycles in a second than an AMD, but an AMD does more "stuff" every cycle.
Now if you have something to do on a computer, like compile a program or run Wordpro or something like that, anything really; that a 2.2 GHz AMD processor will run it just as fast as a 3.2 GHz Intel processor, because the AMD processor does more in every cycle.
Now AMD don't sell the 3200XP as a 2.2 GHz. Because most people would then think "that's way too slow, I'll just buy a Pentium 4". Which would be ashame because the AMD chip is just as quick.
Get it now?
I'll give you the proper reasons about pipeline length, data cache, instruction cache, cache hits etc if you want them. But I think it might go WHOOSH!!! so really all you need to know is that an Athlon 3400+ is about equal to (actually better at most things) than a P4 3.4 GHz and a Sempron 2800 is better than a Celeron 2.8 GHz.
> Oh yeah don't get me wrong you are buying a good AMD processor. It's
> just not as fast as a intel one you could have got for the same
> money.
>
> My housemate fell for their dirty name trick and got a 3000xp about a
> year ago thinking it was a 3ghz the up side of that though was he got
> a radeon 9800pro with his computer which.
Time for a little lesson in CPU architecture. Speed isn't everything. A Pentium 4 does more cycles in a second than an AMD, but an AMD does more "stuff" every cycle.
Now if you have something to do on a computer, like compile a program or run Wordpro or something like that, anything really; that a 2.2 GHz AMD processor will run it just as fast as a 3.2 GHz Intel processor, because the AMD processor does more in every cycle.
Now AMD don't sell the 3200XP as a 2.2 GHz. Because most people would then think "that's way too slow, I'll just buy a Pentium 4". Which would be ashame because the AMD chip is just as quick.
Get it now?
I'll give you the proper reasons about pipeline length, data cache, instruction cache, cache hits etc if you want them. But I think it might go WHOOSH!!! so really all you need to know is that an Athlon 3400+ is about equal to (actually better at most things) than a P4 3.4 GHz and a Sempron 2800 is better than a Celeron 2.8 GHz.
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