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Fri 04/05/01 at 20:48
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It's the ever changing law.. PCs grow out of date within at least a month. It's upsetting I know but whats the point.

This is the law that says "Thee who buys a PC will always regret for the system you buy is guaranteed to be cheaper or/and out of date within a few months" Ok. It's not a law yet but it should be. I'd like to call it Rakuga's Law.

I can almost guarantee that your buying of a PC will be pleasurable at first sight but terrible at second. Why? The ever changing market of PCs is more rapid then that of consoles. With consoles at least you only need to wait a year to have to update at least. With PCs its more like every month IF you want to have the latest computer - and this costs money. Why do we need to upgrade so much? So we can play the latest computer games that strive on advances in computer technology. New 3dfx cards, new processors are being churned out one my one guaranteeing that a PC buyer will be disappointed soon.

I bought a Pentium 1 233mhz back 2 years ago. It cost me ONE THOUSAND pounds. It was the newest thing. Look at it now. It would sell for peanuts - 100 pounds at least. That's 1/10 of it's original cost. It's out of date now, and lets face it crap - most games on it will be unplayable. My latest computer (700mhz P3) cost me £433 (no monitor) and I bought it about a month and a half ago. Now I have already bought more RAM and am in the process of getting a 3dfx card which I now realise I desperately need JUST to play some PC games I have only dreamed about. My 56k modems crap and like many others in online computer games I find myself at a disadvantage to the luckier people around the world who keep up to date and can afford the likes of ADSL, ISDN or cable. The key to having a computer is limiting updates. If you can get a really good computer then you might if lucky be able to hold on to it for a year maybe 2 without losing out on playing top games.

The world of computers is unfair lets face it. If you can't afford to update your computer as often as you wish you could I offer you then answers of Rakuga's Law.

1) Never go for the latest computer. It will only be out of date within a few weeks. Go for a smaller processor so you can afford to update. At the moment I'd say get 600-800mhz processor.

2) Buy a console. They are cheaper to afford then a PC

3) Save at all times. A quid a day if possible. Just save don't spend this money. THis money can then be used for new computer parts.

4) Don't rush into buying a computer. Look through the market. If you have a budget of 700 quid your best option is a Maxx PC - quite a lot of stuff for a good price.

5) Don't get unnecessary parts just for the sake of it. IF you won't use all 40gb hard disk space don't get it. If you don't have a high speed internet connection or anything worth copying don't get a CD writer.

The key to buying a computer is expect to be disappointed within time and watch your spending.
Thank you for reading.
Sat 05/05/01 at 00:04
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It's dodgy overclocking things.

One 500 MHz AMD chip can be safley overcloked to 900MHz, but another may no be able to handle anything over 700MHz
Sat 05/05/01 at 00:03
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My friend overclocked his voodoo3 and was stuck with vertical white lines on his screen for ages..
Don't even consider overclocking without using a cooler on the cpu, fans aren't that expensive, nor is arctic silver (adhesive to attach heatsinks/fans to items and cool them).
Sat 05/05/01 at 00:01
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You just have to watch your CPU temp if you're going to be overclocking. I tried clocking up my 600mhz celeron to 670mhz (approx), and the CPU temp rocketed from twentysomething up to about 65 degrees. (so I quickly un-overclocked it).

I also tried tweaking my graphics card up by 5mhz. Not bad. I got an extra 5f/s from Quake 3. However, since messing around with the resolutions and graphics settings in quake 3, I now can't run it in any case.....
Fri 04/05/01 at 23:55
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Yeah, on clock is enough, and perhaps another in case of emergencies. Or perhaps just a watch. There is no need for any more.
Fri 04/05/01 at 23:54
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Unless you're a benchmarking obsessive, who tweaks their clock multiplier and GPU continuously to get the best possible 3d mark 2001 score - why...?
Fri 04/05/01 at 23:52
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Overclocking by and large is pretty much a waste of time...
Fri 04/05/01 at 23:50
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Oh good. A "l33t haxx0r".
I do overclock, some batch of 1ghz Athlons got speeds of over 1.45ghz on iWill-266 motherboards, but I don't actually need that speed, and don't plan to mess about with my hardware any more than I have at the moment, which is perfectly adequate.
Fri 04/05/01 at 23:50
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Overclocking is becoming more and more popular.

but it's difficult to know how much you can over clock by. After all, you dont really want to blow the chip you've just spent £200 quid on!!
Fri 04/05/01 at 23:47
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What an idiot thread

Buy an Axia Y series motherboard/cpu and you can get 1.6ghz out of that easily, that will last a year easily I recon.

This is where overclocking comes into play!

Fri 04/05/01 at 23:39
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"Eric The Half A Bee"
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Rakuga wrote:
> lets just say
the computer I bought for 433 pounds I saw the exact
> same thing for the same price with an extra 266mhz and 64mb ram then
> I bought it for. FROM THE SAME COMPANY. This is what I mean by
> disappointment. This was after a month! That to me is cheaper then
> when I bought it - am I not right.

That happens with lower spec machines... the higher you go the less the prices fluctuate...

Due to lack of sales last year theres currently a PC price war hotting up...

And with a new range of Intel chips currently being released all chips priceses a going down a spec...

Also if you bought the PC as a special offer price... then you had to suspect something?



And sure you can play games
> with specs of 400-600mhz but these are called MINIMUM
> specifications.

No.. there not... the called reccomended spec...

B&W minimum spec is a PII 350 ... And B&W is known to be a power hungry game... Ive tried it on a P450... and it runs like a dream... and at full res too...

This doesnt ensure the game will play well. It may
> be slow, not run very smoothly. The games that most get affected by
> this are multiplayer online games.

Multiplayer games are affected due to the internet connection... if a game runs fine in solo mode.. then multiplayer will also be fine... the tiny amount of extra info required wont make a speed difeerence... but a net lag issue will... thats nothing to do with the spec of your PC... it would be the same with a console

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