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Tue 17/08/04 at 11:05
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I guess I had clearly forgotten something when I said Michael Owen was quite certainly going to stay with Liverpool and sign a new deal... He is just another money-grabbing, big-headed, ME-ME-ME David Beckham-esque Pop Star after all! :P

(At least his starting place in the England side's guarrenteed for the next few years at least, then...)


While I do believe Liverpool can certainly progress without him - despite all his managed to do under Gerard Houllier - they have to find a replacement, first. Djibril Cissé cannot cope alone. He and Baros may struggle to find a strong bond together, I also feel.

This is where I thought Benitez would do what anyone else would've done, and get Fernando Morientes (if not Samuel Eto'o, as reported) in an exchange move as part of the deal. Not this Nunez bloke, of who, only two people [being his parents] have ever heard of...
I thought the £8m they recieved was pitiful enough - but, now they've got this (reportadley) £2m in aswel... That reall takes the biscuit!!


What on Earth were they think!? £8m for Michael Owen... I don't rate him quite that highly myself, but they should've at least held out for £20m, or so you'd have thought!
I've heard Benitez say Nunez is "just what we need" to fill the midfield holes, and that Owen simply "had to go" for that price, with his contract ending next summer and negotiations likely to begin again in Januray. But, to me, that's just a load of Salif Diao (and, if Diouf can be thrown-out, why can't he?!?)! He's been made a real mug of. If Vieira wasn't going, Owen didn't have to. Liverpool look a joke, there early-season could be in jeopardy (come on, you drew with SPURS!!) - and "Raffa's" barely been in the job 6 weeks!

If Nunez (or whatever his name is...) is 'the man' to come in alongside Gerrard and Harry Kewell and end Dietmar Hamman's days, for good, then, why are you still pursuing your interests in Xabi Alonso?
Better yet... At over £10m already, how can you value an un-tried-and-tested player at a higher rate than a leading goalscorer and former European Player of the Year???

I went to Spain myself last month, and found many of the home-growns there to be largely dislikable. Rafael Benitez, however, is no exception. He seems even nuttier than Claudio Ranieri! (Coincidental, then, that "The Tinkerman" went on to replace Benitez at Valencia.)


What is it with Liverpool and dodgy deals anyway?
They can con Leeds into letting prized-asset Harry Kewell leave for a mere fifth of his true value (and then only pay the club £2m!), and now, they're getting a taste of their own medicine, I suppose, as Michael Owen leaves for far less than half of what he is worth....

Perhaps it wasn't Gerard Houllier's fault, after all...? :O

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Just to clear it all up, is it actually Nunez who Liverpool have signed?
At the end of last week, I heard 2 other names mentioned across the media, in quite highly-regarded Juanfran and another nobody, Gomez...

Also, I'm surprised to see they haven't been linked with a move for Southampton's James Beattie, of all the strikers they could go for. Benitez has talked about having this 'English Spine' to his team (despite selling Murphy and Owen, only buying Spaniards), so, I think, Beattie fits the bill. He can score goals. He's experienced in the Premiership. Big clubs have chased him before... £8m is Rupert Lowe's asking price - that's the exact amount Liverpool got from Real.

With any other possibilities likely to be cup-tied for European fixtures this season, isn't this, simply, the best option available?

(Remember: You read it here first - "James Beattie to Liverpool!") ;)

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UPDATE:

I also hear, today, that Newcastle's Kieron Dyer could be allowed to leave St.James' Park for as little as £8m, after the weekend's reported "bust-up" with manager-should-be-old-age-pensioner Sir Bobby Robson.

I don't believe it too much myself (especialy when they say Arsénal and United will now be in a 'bidding-war'), but again, we have another option Liverpool could've used against 'accepting' Nunez...

Either that, or they should go for Jermaine Pennant. He could go even cheaper, y'know, and I very much doubt he's in Arséne Wenger's first-team plans, when Reyes and co. are all fit.
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:40
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another manc fan offends the stryke!

hes right bout beattie though. he is a lower level prem player but soton want £8m for him. noww which other striker also went for £8m just recently....
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:38
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Oh, someone already said the less money part. Ah well.

Oh, and Nunez is a right-sided midfielder. Which is what we need, seeing as a right-back is playing there at the moment, albeit an attacking right-back. He's not an Alonso, who is a central midfielder, which we also need because Hamann is crap.
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:35
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1 - LiverFools? Witty. How did you think it up. You should be host of Countdown.

2 - So Baros has 1 game with Cisse and you've written him off immediately? The last time he played with a big powerful forward next to him he topped the scoring chart at Euro 2004. I wouldn't be that quick to write Baros off.

3 - Beattie? Don't make me laugh. He's not good enough. He's a Spurs/Villa/Charlton type player. That's why they're bidding for him. Apparently.

4 - Owen is getting less at Madrid than he would've done if he signed the Liverpool contract. So clearly he wanted Madrid, rather than Vieira:

"I wanna play for Madrid. It's in my heart and soul and stuff."
"Cool Patrick. Here's a contract."
"What? You're not paying me Beckham-wages? Arsenal is in my heart and soul and stuff."
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:23
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Solskjær wrote:
> I guess I had clearly forgotten something when I said Michael Owen was
> quite certainly going to stay with Liverpool and sign a new deal...
> He is just another money-grabbing, big-headed, ME-ME-ME David
> Beckham-esque Pop Star after all! :P

He's not really money grabbing as he would have got more money if he were to sign a new contract at Liverpool.
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:22
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Man - you put some work into these posts of yours.

Solskjær wrote:
> why are you still pursuing your interests in Xabi Alonso?
> Better yet... At over £10 already,

At a cost of over £10 already, can they actually afford him? :D

It looks like a done deal but I'm not the one to answer your questions. I'd not heard of him prior to the rumours starting.

> Just to clear it all up, is it actually Nunez who Liverpool have
> signed?

Yes, apparantly Antonio Nunez has arrived.

The two characters above I don't know anything about but now I've just read that Spurs are chasing Finnan. Please God, don't let him leave.
Tue 17/08/04 at 11:05
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"Long time no see!"
Posts: 8,351
I guess I had clearly forgotten something when I said Michael Owen was quite certainly going to stay with Liverpool and sign a new deal... He is just another money-grabbing, big-headed, ME-ME-ME David Beckham-esque Pop Star after all! :P

(At least his starting place in the England side's guarrenteed for the next few years at least, then...)


While I do believe Liverpool can certainly progress without him - despite all his managed to do under Gerard Houllier - they have to find a replacement, first. Djibril Cissé cannot cope alone. He and Baros may struggle to find a strong bond together, I also feel.

This is where I thought Benitez would do what anyone else would've done, and get Fernando Morientes (if not Samuel Eto'o, as reported) in an exchange move as part of the deal. Not this Nunez bloke, of who, only two people [being his parents] have ever heard of...
I thought the £8m they recieved was pitiful enough - but, now they've got this (reportadley) £2m in aswel... That reall takes the biscuit!!


What on Earth were they think!? £8m for Michael Owen... I don't rate him quite that highly myself, but they should've at least held out for £20m, or so you'd have thought!
I've heard Benitez say Nunez is "just what we need" to fill the midfield holes, and that Owen simply "had to go" for that price, with his contract ending next summer and negotiations likely to begin again in Januray. But, to me, that's just a load of Salif Diao (and, if Diouf can be thrown-out, why can't he?!?)! He's been made a real mug of. If Vieira wasn't going, Owen didn't have to. Liverpool look a joke, there early-season could be in jeopardy (come on, you drew with SPURS!!) - and "Raffa's" barely been in the job 6 weeks!

If Nunez (or whatever his name is...) is 'the man' to come in alongside Gerrard and Harry Kewell and end Dietmar Hamman's days, for good, then, why are you still pursuing your interests in Xabi Alonso?
Better yet... At over £10m already, how can you value an un-tried-and-tested player at a higher rate than a leading goalscorer and former European Player of the Year???

I went to Spain myself last month, and found many of the home-growns there to be largely dislikable. Rafael Benitez, however, is no exception. He seems even nuttier than Claudio Ranieri! (Coincidental, then, that "The Tinkerman" went on to replace Benitez at Valencia.)


What is it with Liverpool and dodgy deals anyway?
They can con Leeds into letting prized-asset Harry Kewell leave for a mere fifth of his true value (and then only pay the club £2m!), and now, they're getting a taste of their own medicine, I suppose, as Michael Owen leaves for far less than half of what he is worth....

Perhaps it wasn't Gerard Houllier's fault, after all...? :O

-----

Just to clear it all up, is it actually Nunez who Liverpool have signed?
At the end of last week, I heard 2 other names mentioned across the media, in quite highly-regarded Juanfran and another nobody, Gomez...

Also, I'm surprised to see they haven't been linked with a move for Southampton's James Beattie, of all the strikers they could go for. Benitez has talked about having this 'English Spine' to his team (despite selling Murphy and Owen, only buying Spaniards), so, I think, Beattie fits the bill. He can score goals. He's experienced in the Premiership. Big clubs have chased him before... £8m is Rupert Lowe's asking price - that's the exact amount Liverpool got from Real.

With any other possibilities likely to be cup-tied for European fixtures this season, isn't this, simply, the best option available?

(Remember: You read it here first - "James Beattie to Liverpool!") ;)

-----

UPDATE:

I also hear, today, that Newcastle's Kieron Dyer could be allowed to leave St.James' Park for as little as £8m, after the weekend's reported "bust-up" with manager-should-be-old-age-pensioner Sir Bobby Robson.

I don't believe it too much myself (especialy when they say Arsénal and United will now be in a 'bidding-war'), but again, we have another option Liverpool could've used against 'accepting' Nunez...

Either that, or they should go for Jermaine Pennant. He could go even cheaper, y'know, and I very much doubt he's in Arséne Wenger's first-team plans, when Reyes and co. are all fit.

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