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"Nintendo Failing?"

Have Nintendo failed? That is the big question everyone is either asking or thinking.

I'll take you back to the nineties, when the two giants of gaming, (Nintendo and Sega) weren't at war. They produced great games at their own pace, creating certain masterpieces along the way, e.g Sonic and Mario. The two characters became mascots for the companys and were growing rich at a steady pace.
The games industry was a profitable buisness and more powerful consoles and games were 'promised'. Nintendo produced Zelda, a new franchise, which helped Nintendo significantly.

Sega ,however, was losing money. For the first time, profits were down. Just at a convienient time, a reputable, rival company steped in. Sony. Sony produced the Playstation, which hit record sales and quickly overtook the Nintendo 64 and Sega Saturn consoles.

The Playstation had the backing of many games manufacturese.g Square-Soft, Konami and THQ, to name but a few. Now, Nintendo had serious competition.

Nintendo hit back in Japan with the ever-famous Pokemon. Everyone knew about Pokemon. It was everywhere, video games, cards ,posters and T.V series. There was no escaping Pokemon.

Nintendo continued to battle but seemed to give up. After producing the amazing James Bond: Goldeneye, numerous Zelda titles, Nintendo still didn't look like they were going to win this battle.

Sega had gone bust. They were bankrupt. So it was Nintendo Vs. Sony... Games like Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto ect. were being released on the Playstation, but Nintendo could only churn out more sequels e.g Zelda and Pokemon, whilst the fans were happy, most people wern't.

Some people say that it was Sony's fault that Sega only produce games today, but not consoles. But was it Sony's fault, or was it that Sega could keep up the pace?


This now leads us to the present day. Nintendo have had alot of speculation about them being bankrupt. Will they have the same fate as Sega? Maybe if Nintendo went back to their glourious days when every new release was 'hyped' and 'wanted' by the public, they would be ok financially. Without a mix of other games produced by leading company's Nintendo may suffer, too many games are accused of being 'babyish'.

If more Mario and Zelda sequels/remakes come out, will Nintendo still be here in the next 10 years?

gamer2005 wrote:
> look, i don't want to lose mates, arguing over games consoles, but all
> i ment was tha, all the Gamecube 'hype' seems to be about Zelda.
> Nintendo need more than Mario and Zelda to sell consoles, not
> everyone is obsessed with Mario and Zelda. (although they are class
> games).

Says who?

Ninty sold most of their (extensive) ammount of GameCubes with promotions including Mario and Zelda.

I know plenty of people who only bought the GC because of Zelda and Mario. I know plenty of people, including myself, who are only considering buying a GC because of them, and who wouldn't bother otherwise.

Meh, think.

Not everyone is obsessed with brainless violence either.

look, i don't want to lose mates, arguing over games consoles, but all i ment was tha, all the Gamecube 'hype' seems to be about Zelda. Nintendo need more than Mario and Zelda to sell consoles, not everyone is obsessed with Mario and Zelda. (although they are class games).

gamer2005 wrote:

> So it was Nintendo Vs.
> Sony... Games like Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto ect. were being
> released on the Playstation, but Nintendo could only churn out more
> sequels e.g Zelda and Pokemon

Right, because GTA3, Vice City, San Andreas and Final Fantasy III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X2 aren't sequels are they?


As for Nintendo, as a company trying to sell products, they are very successful, just not as successful as some others. If you took away Sony and Microsoft's profits from their other areas, the profits made between all 3 companies wouldn't be that far apart - Sony would still be a way ahead, and Microsoft might even be in the minus figures.

But to be honest I don't really care as long as there are decent games to play. I'd say ojne thing though; the games industry needs to slow down. Everyone needs to stop rushing their games out, rushing their consoles out. Just take it down a notch and chill out, otherwise we're in danger of being swamped with even more low quality games.

But the Japanese make the gamecube! Look im not dissing the Gamecube... 'cos i have one. I just think that a big effort needs to be made for more 'adult' games to be on the GC, e.g Vice City, an 18 certificate, but a HUGE sucess.

Hedfix wrote:
> gamer2005 wrote:
> Nintendo is failing. Even the GameBoy has sold more than the
> Gamecube.
> The Ps2 is obviously in the lead, and the xbox is way ahead of the
> GC. Nintendo isn't failing you say???
>
> Who cares if you're third but still making plenty of cash?
>
> Sony and Microsoft could give away their consoles for free and still
> turn in a tidy profit every year from all their other areas.
>
> Saying the Gameboy has sold more than the cube isn't really a very
> clever argument since the GB's been out since somthing like 1989.
>
> You t!t

Not the gameboy pocket or classic, i ment the GB Advance you twit!

yeah and in the japanese sales figures the gc is huge.

Cube and Xbox aren't really all that far apart in sales.

Both crush the PS2, it's not funny.

and anyway the gameboys is nintendo product and if its selling best how can they be failing?

The GameBoy has sold more than the PS2 and Xbox as well, so that pretty much voids that part of your argument.