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Thu 26/04/01 at 20:27
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Well what can i say? I think bullying is something that we've all experienced at one point in our lives. Either by being a victim or being the bully. I think that many places, schools in particular, are overlooking this problem. I know that in basically every school in the world there are bullying incidents. Whether it being verbal or physical, there is always somebody that gets hurt. A lot of teachers in schools try to ignore the fact that this happens because they dont want to be recognised as a place where this happens; when in fact it is a very common thing.

I cant say that i know how you feel because i myself have never experienced it. I have a lot of friends that have been bullied and i've tried to help them cope. On the otherhand i know that you will be feeling afraid and as though you cant tell anybody. Talking to somebody in confidence can really help, i know that it might be hard but you will feel better if you do.

Another thing to remember is dont fight back. Thats what they want you to do. One of the hardest things is to walk away and ignore them but it will make you the stronger one. If you answer back, they will know that they have succeeded. The same goes for if they physically hurt you. Dont throw another punch if even if they done it to you first. You will get into as much trouble for something that is not your fault.

Normally, people bully because it is a way of letting go. Usually if something is happening at home or even if they are confused. More likely is to gain attention in order to become popular. It is a known fact that most people that resort to bullying have been bullied themselves at one point.

There are numbers you can call and talk to people. NEVER LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!
Tue 19/06/01 at 16:19
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Cooldogs:

Congrats on your win man, well deserved.
And I applaud you for your honesty, it takes a lot to come out with personal stuff.

Bullying can be the most destructive thing, kids are nasty.
But you found a way to deal with it, well done mate.

And don't worry, once you leave school it will stop.
Nobody cares in "the real world" what you do or believe, and I'm glad you had something to see you through.

Thanks for admitting this does go on and for highlighting how absolutely soul destroying it can be.

Well done.
Tue 19/06/01 at 11:44
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After reading cooldogs post, i have to say that people in general are complete idiots. To bully you becasue of your religion is very nasty and to see the teachers joining in must of been really hard for you. Teachers are the ones that are supposed to be on your side! Were you the only one of your religion in your school? its always tough being different form the others becasue they dont always understand you. They think just becasue your view is different it is wrong.
Tue 19/06/01 at 11:28
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Great topic for discussion and some really good postings. This is something which affects so many people yet the victims of bullying are left feeling incredibly isolated and lonely.

The trouble is that bullies are often too immature to realise the damage they are causing to other people. I saw a program the other day about adults who had been bullies at school. Many of them are riddled with guilt in adult life as a result of their childhood behaviour. The victims of bullying can suffer major confidence problems in adult life and sadly in some cases people have taken their own lives.

So much more could be done to educate youngsters on this subject. We spend vast sums of money and see graphic adverts on our screens showing what can happen when we drink and drive, but bullying is something which affects far more people. A TV anti-bullying campaign would be a start and it would help if popular TV programs (soaps etc) run storylines showing the affects of bullying.
Mon 18/06/01 at 20:17
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Its interesting reading what you have put about bullying because I have been bullied for 3 years, y9-11, its only stopped since about 2 months ago. Now I know you've all said got and tell someone, but that's not always the solution. I was bullied because of my religon. It was ok all the kids trying to irritate me (it didnt work!) but the thing that really upset me (and I mean really upset me, at 1 point I wanted to be dead rather than go to school) was when teachers joined in with everyone else in the class saying that everyone in my religon was stupid and what we believed was wrong etc. This really upset me but I coped with it because I have a dog! yes my dog saved me in a way I suppose. every day after I came in from school I went out with my dog and cried my eyes out, because of what I had endured at schoool and because i had to go there the day after, but after the walk I felt fine and happy in my life, so this message goes out to anyone who is suffering at this moment in time, get a hobby or a pet or something relaxing (not playing fps's they dont work) that you love doing and do this straight away and you will come because people are ignorant, rude and quite frankly obnoxious sometimes, but never let what they say make you think that you are thick or something because you must be doing something right to be singled out.

Theres my thought and views on one of the worst things that never gets punished!

Seeya
Sun 17/06/01 at 14:50
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Sorry if it's a touchy subject.
Fri 27/04/01 at 11:09
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Ok, I have a lot to say on this matter, but I won't do because it generates feelings and colourful language will come out, removing my post.

Having experienced it at school, it can make your life a misery.
It can make every day something you dread, to the point of missing school rather than face it.
You cant tell teachers because you'll get pounded.
Tell your parents.

It is NOTHING to be ashamed of, you are not a bad person because of it.
School can be hard, especially if you arent part of the "crowd"
Maybe you wear glasses, are short, overweight..kids can be cruel and you feel isolated and desperate.

But it's ok.
You won't have this every day of your life.
When you leave school, you'll discover that nobody cares what you dress like, what you listen to, if you look different.
Most people will actually respect and like you if you are a little "outside" the norm.

People often feel the need to be superior to someone, it's a sad fact of life but it's the truth.

If you are getting bullied, tell your parents please.
Or the Head and don't be fobbed off with "I'll deal with it"
You dont have to put up with this.
You have the right to an education free from fear and threats.

It may seem like everything is wrong and nobody likes you, but that's not the truth.
The important thing is to not blame yourself, don't look for reasons why they don't like you.
It's not you, it's them.

Be strong and soon you'll be out of that situation
Fri 27/04/01 at 01:21
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very good post Dr.Duck. i cant think of much more to say on this topic. It is a very sensitive subject and the "right" answer is very hard to find and depends upon the situation.

Fri 27/04/01 at 01:11
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After reading Happy's post, i was all set to say that walking away is all well and good, but sometimes you just have to be a man, stand up for yourself and earn some respect, from yourself as much as anyone else.

Then I read batistuta's and stopped.

It's a difficult one, and on top of the 'it's stronger to walk away' and 'you could end up feeling worse for taking action' arguments, there are many more things to consider, such as what other options are available to you, and what the best option really is. Telling someone is of course sound advice but the sad truth is it won't always fix everything, and after trying that and seeing if fail, you can suddenly feel very lonely. If you do take direct action and it works out for you, it can be all too easy to get carried away and become seen as a bully yourself.

I've been on the receiving end of my share, though I've been lucky and it's never been too serious. From my personal experience I can offer a couple of suggestions. If the kind of bullying doesn't envolve any physical harm to you or damage or theft of your property, it can be very useful to learn not to take it too seriously. Easier said than done, I know, but at the end of the day, if it's only words, what does it matter what they say?
Another thing that really helped me was cultivating a sense of humour. Joke, laugh, it shows them that you don't care (ie, wat they're doing isn't working), and if you can get a smile out of it, all the better. Maybe mocking the 6ft rugby player's mother isn't always wise, and it's not fair (though tempting) to direct their attentions towards someoen else, but a little victimless or non-serious humour won't hurt anyone.

If however, the bullying is more serious, you at least are in aposition where you can get something done, and if someone won't take it seriously, go to their boss, find a higher level to put them under pressure and have a stronger effect. This can mean going from teachers to head teachers, a board of governors to complain about the school's bullying policies. Alternatively it could mean going to the police (though this is a fairly drastic step).

Whatever happens, there is always a way out and there are always people to talk to.

And rest assured, it won't last forever. As people get older they drift away from the people they don't like, they form groups of good friends with new people.
At university I can honestly say I don't know a single victim of bullying. There are so many people and so many societies set up that everyone can find their group of friends with their shared interests, really different people may just never nedd to have anything to do with each other, and here's the clincher, everyone has grown out of it.
Fri 27/04/01 at 00:35
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I've never experienced bullying and none of my friends have either. But if they ever did i would make sure that the bully gets what he deserves.

In my school the teachers never used to really respond to when i told them stuff about people dosing about or annoying me. It wasnt bullying just idiots coming along and kicking the football away. Well one time i got really really annoyed and decided to take the law into my own hands. I dont really wanna write what happened as i feel really bad about it, and after it happened two years ago i still think about it a lot. It hurts me and i regret it alot. All i can say is the other kid was on the floor K.O. and it wasnt just me who put him down. About another 5-6 people joined in. The kid went to hospital for a check up but wasnt damaged.

i wasnt expelled, and i was very lucky. All i say is that violence is never the answer, even if u win the fight u lose in the long run.
Thu 26/04/01 at 20:27
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Well what can i say? I think bullying is something that we've all experienced at one point in our lives. Either by being a victim or being the bully. I think that many places, schools in particular, are overlooking this problem. I know that in basically every school in the world there are bullying incidents. Whether it being verbal or physical, there is always somebody that gets hurt. A lot of teachers in schools try to ignore the fact that this happens because they dont want to be recognised as a place where this happens; when in fact it is a very common thing.

I cant say that i know how you feel because i myself have never experienced it. I have a lot of friends that have been bullied and i've tried to help them cope. On the otherhand i know that you will be feeling afraid and as though you cant tell anybody. Talking to somebody in confidence can really help, i know that it might be hard but you will feel better if you do.

Another thing to remember is dont fight back. Thats what they want you to do. One of the hardest things is to walk away and ignore them but it will make you the stronger one. If you answer back, they will know that they have succeeded. The same goes for if they physically hurt you. Dont throw another punch if even if they done it to you first. You will get into as much trouble for something that is not your fault.

Normally, people bully because it is a way of letting go. Usually if something is happening at home or even if they are confused. More likely is to gain attention in order to become popular. It is a known fact that most people that resort to bullying have been bullied themselves at one point.

There are numbers you can call and talk to people. NEVER LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT!

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