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Tue 29/06/04 at 19:06
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So I'll be starting university next september and almost certainly moving away from home to go elsewhere and venture out into the big wide world, though this isn't going to be one of those coming of age speeches that you'll find in most American teen movies.

I'm still unsure about university courses in general, whether it's my sixth form that havent told us enough or just a big country-wide mystery I do not yet know, but I'm hoping some of you nice people can answer my questions.

First of all, if I major in one subject but take another one (say Journalism with criminology), what would my lessons be like? Would I do more journalism lessons than criminology lessons, or would they be 50/50 and just my mark that is split 75/25 ?

This leads me onto my next point, is it easier to take just one single subject, ie just plain Journalism. Would this mean I had less lessons overall, or would the fact I'm not taking more lessons mean I had to take more classes?

When looking at courses there seem to be the same courses ar different universities, only some courses require different ucas points to get in. Are the higher point courses more lucrative, or will they be much the same?

Moving away from university lectures now, I want to know about student accomodation. Is it better to get on-campus accomodation for the first year and move in with friends after this? Also, it's not been mentioned whether we pay our own electricity bills etc if we stay on campus, or if its covered in the rent or whatever it is we pay.

Is the first year as easy as most people make out it is? In the case that it is easy, would you advise me to get a job during the first year to make up some money towards my debt and take advantage of my free time?

I'm still quite confused about exactly what I want to do in life, but I think journalism could be fun. If I never end up using my degree I still feel I should go to uni just for the experience.

So help me out and post reassuring comments, or add your own angst-filled panick statements - whatever's good for you.
Wed 30/06/04 at 01:32
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Cong_Woman wrote:
> The first year at uni is a doddle. Well mine was and i did a business
> studies degree for 5 years as did a Honours and then a masters!

Yeah, Business is rather a waste of a time if you want to be challenged. I was considering taking the subject in degree level, but looking back you have to wonder how hard a subject where the A Level exams are easy as pie even without revision is. So in the end I took something more... thought provoking.

>
> I dont really use my degree in the job im in at the moment.
Therein lies the humour.

But
> atleast i have it to fall back on. Also it looks great on your cv.

Yup, as long as you get in first in any degree, employers will love you. media studies, psychology... yup, first in those and your career is set for life.
>
Wed 30/06/04 at 01:08
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Paradox: wrote:
> First of all, if I major in one subject but take another one (say
> Journalism with criminology), what would my lessons be like? Would I
> do more journalism lessons than criminology lessons, or would they be
> 50/50 and just my mark that is split 75/25 ?

OK, you can major in one and minor in the other. These are split 75/25 and your degree would be Journalism with Criminology. Or you could take the course as 50/50 and your degree would be Journalism and Criminology.

> This leads me onto my next point, is it easier to take just one
> single subject, ie just plain Journalism. Would this mean I had less
> lessons overall, or would the fact I'm not taking more lessons mean I
> had to take more classes?

If you took a major subject then you would have more lessons on this subject.

> When looking at courses there seem to be the same courses ar
> different universities, only some courses require different ucas
> points to get in. Are the higher point courses more lucrative, or
> will they be much the same?

The higher point universities are the 'better' uni's but it's what each person makes of it.

> Moving away from university lectures now, I want to know about
> student accomodation. Is it better to get on-campus accomodation for
> the first year and move in with friends after this? Also, it's not
> been mentioned whether we pay our own electricity bills etc if we
> stay on campus, or if its covered in the rent or whatever it is we
> pay.

Living on campus the cost includes bills and at my uni it includes breakfast or dinner. The majority of people live on campus in their first year but have to move out in their second year. There should be an accommodation department at your uni which can/will give you listings of landlords the uni recommend. In some areas there are student roads where a lot of the house and the area are mainly student accommodation. Unless you want to live off campus in your first year it's best to start looking for second year accomodation in about Feb/March of your first year to insure you get the better houses.

> Is the first year as easy as most people make out it is? In the case
> that it is easy, would you advise me to get a job during the first
> year to make up some money towards my debt and take advantage of my
> free time?

The first year is an introduction year and doesn't count towards your final degree it's just a matter of passing the year, though this does vary from course to course.

Where the job thing is concerned it does depend on person to person. Some student are lucky enough to have loads of money spare from their student loan or because they have savings or because their parents send them £100 a week. I suppose it is a good idea to have a job since it gives you some variety in your life. If your stuck at uni all the time it might be nice to have a job to take your mind off things. In my case i might come home at weekends to work or ideally get a job down where my uni is. My work place have already said that they'd keep my job open for when i return at Christmas/Easter and Summer.

> I'm still quite confused about exactly what I want to do in life, but
> I think journalism could be fun. If I never end up using my degree I
> still feel I should go to uni just for the experience.

Thats it. I'm doing criminology and had a discussion with my aunt about this. She doesn't see why i'm doing that course since i don't know if i want to work in that field. In actual fact i haven't a clue about what career i want. I know i want to go to uni so i'm just doing something that i know i'm going to find interesting.
Tue 29/06/04 at 22:23
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gamesfreak wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> There's a course called Games Computing at Lincoln which looks just
> about perfect for me.
>
> Saw your post in the other thread, I might see you there.
>
> Crazy huh?

Muchly - you're not supposed to be real, you know.
Just a electronic shadow...

Crazy crazy crazy ...
Tue 29/06/04 at 22:21
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Posts: 19,792
Paradox: wrote:
> I wont get hired as a journalist without having to spend three years
> whittling away with a pencil - thats the only reason I'm bothering.

Yeah, because that's an industry - you actually work there, you need to get hired, and you need the skills in order to get hired.

But with writing - writing books - there's no industry to get into. You write the book yourself (with your natual skills, one hopes) then get hired.
I don't see how a course in writing could be anything other than "Okay! Let's write!"
Tue 29/06/04 at 21:59
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You should probably go to campus, I'm kind of regretting it but simply don't have the cash.

Sex V Nice home/money/easy life/job etc

Damn, I picked wrong one didn't I?
Tue 29/06/04 at 21:50
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"SOUP!"
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Thanks for the advice - its much appreciated.
Tue 29/06/04 at 20:51
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FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> There's a course called Games Computing at Lincoln which looks just
> about perfect for me.

Saw your post in the other thread, I might see you there.

Crazy huh?
Tue 29/06/04 at 20:45
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no bills in halls. you can probably smuggle your fish in if you have the slightest bit of subtlety.
Tue 29/06/04 at 20:45
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Paradox: wrote:
> Thanks Bell,
>
> can you explain what a 2.1 and 2.2 etc is?
>
> Is it like equivalent of grades, A, B, C etc?
>
> And whats a "first" ?

Right, well this is based on the Uni I am at, I don't know if the grade boundaries vary much uni to uni.

A First is essentially a final mark of 70% or over. This is the best you can get as far as I know, and it means that, in theory, you're pretty damn good at what you do. Because of the way marks are collected (ie usually being continually averaged out etc) a few bad marks can basically screw up your chances unless you pull off some astounding marks to counter them.

A 2.1 is a mark of 60-69% and is the standard "great" mark to aim for, it means you are really good at what you do and possibly you only missed out on a First by a few marks.

A 2.2 is 50-59% and, whilst not to be sneezed at, isnt exactly brilliant but it depends really what you started the course expecting to achieve - if the course is maths or science then this is, Id imagine, a really good mark. If you are doing something like journalism or business studies then less so...

40-49% is the lowest acceptable mark, and I dont even know what this class is called. Basically, unless you had certain circumstances, you've done the bare minimum work and fudged your way through the course.

Below 40% and you're looking at resits, but if your final average is 40% or less then its unlikely resitting a few modules is going to help - essentially you might as well have stacked shelves for three years!

Sometimes if your marks are in boundary areas, say 59, 69 etc then you could be upgraded to the next class based on the overall standard of your work, but this is, I think, rare.

Hope this is of some help to you.
Tue 29/06/04 at 20:44
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..yes I wanna know about the whole electricity bill thing,

why the hell wont they let me keep my puffa fish?

:(

I been accepted into uni with a conditional offer now. Scary and looking forward to it. agh

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