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Thu 24/06/04 at 23:25
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Stockholm syndrome. Being in love with your captor, famously and often happens in hostage situations, where the hostage falls begins to sympathise and have 'feelings' for those who're abusing them, and using them for whatever reason. The term is often applied to domestic violence, with women who are constantly abused by their lovers and keep returning to them. It may sound alien to most of you, but for anyone who's followed the England national team over recent years, it should be extremely relevant.

Over the last decade, what have we had? Southgate missing a penalty in Euro 96. Campbells disallowed goal against Argentina, and getting knocked out, again, on penalties in World Cup '98. Euro 2000, getting eliminated by last minute, last gasp Romanian penalty. A lucky Ronaldinho free kick took us out of World Cup 2002, and, tonight, a bent referee and a beach of a penalty spot made the Portuguese go through. Not once in the last 5 tournaments have we been knocked out by being out played or being the lesser team. Each and every time, something, somewhere has worked against us. Fair enough, a few times, we were outplayed. We were on the back foot, and not attacking. But since when did attacking football make you the better team? Look at the honours that the Germans and Italians have gained over the past. Could anyone say that Maldini is the most exciting player of any team, or that the Germans play free, flowing football? No. They do the job, get out, and, most importantly, get the win. Look at the England match tonight. We scored, defended until they scored, went and got a goal, then defended. They score in extra time, we score again. Not the most exciting of play from England, but it did what was needed.

It was an emotional roller coaster. It's a cliché, but it was. I ended up shouting at my Mother. Proper, full on, shouting. Because it was the 93rd minute and she was talking about how England could be playing better. I've had disagreements with my mum before, and over things far more petty, but never have I felt such anger and rage. Being on the edge of your seat, hands shaking, watching wave after wave of attack isn't the best time to have your mother taking about how she thinks your step-dad wanted Christiano Ronaldo to score, let me tell you.

And then, there's the people that think, as everyone supports England, it's a good idea to laugh and make comments against the team. People totally disinterested in football. People who don't appreciate the brilliance of a Cruyff turn, and what's wrong with the long ball. People who couldn';t name 5 regular England player thinking that its hilarious to make comments to wind people up. Fair enough, like Azul, if you know and love football, and you want to wind people up, then you've got far more right to than any other fool that wants to be 'alternative', and have a different opinion ever has. Football is a national obsession, I know that, you know that. If you love it, you LOVE it. If you don't like it, then leave it alone. People have high emotions and expectations on a football match, and if you've never jizzumed over a 40 yard pass, discussed Englands left sided problem or Theirry Henrys genius, then you don't deserve to make comment.

Good day.

Mattribute
Fri 25/06/04 at 11:09
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Alan Thompson has shown this season against some of Celtics big European opponents that he can play on the larger scale and not just in the SPL.

For me though he won't get the chance, a bit like the way it was for LeTissier.
Fri 25/06/04 at 10:47
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Chris Sutton has been Celtics best player all season. Better than Larsson. He's consistent and always puts in the effort. Also a decent central defender when need be.
Fri 25/06/04 at 10:19
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Chris Sutton is balls.

Along with Rooney, Alan Smith and Jermain Defoe are the future of England.
Fri 25/06/04 at 01:30
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No Azul, even a Rangers fan sees that he should be in the England squad.

"So, Owen and Rooney up front and who else will we get in as cover?"
'Some big target guy, good in the air and with his feet who has a proven track record and scores lots of goals'
"Nah, screw Chris Sutton, lets have Vasell!"
Fri 25/06/04 at 01:18
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I still fail to see why Defoe wasn't in the squad ahead of Heskey/Vasell...
Fri 25/06/04 at 01:15
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> England don't have a left side problem. England have an issue with
> calling up Alan Thompson.

*Applauds*

And I thought I was the only one.

"omg he plays in scurtlund so he dusnt count!¬11"
Fri 25/06/04 at 00:59
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England don't have a left side problem. England have an issue with calling up Alan Thompson.

And shouting at your mother tribbers. Shame on you. That's twice I've had to say that to you today.
Fri 25/06/04 at 00:08
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Club before country doesn't really apply for me...
Fri 25/06/04 at 00:07
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Ashman wrote:
> Club before country.

It's personal opinion, really. I'd readily rather England win Euro rather than Leeds get promoted, as it's a whole thing for the country, for millions, rather than a select few who choose to support Leeds.

But, again, comes down to choice.
Fri 25/06/04 at 00:02
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I enjoyed the post, and being a now die hard Woking FC fan, I know exactly how you feel. I go to 40 matches a season, costing hundreds of pounds in ticket prices and travel costs to away matches that span as far as Morecambe and Scarborough; 8 hour journey's there and back. I spend thousands, upon thousands of minutes, moments, watching my team. August, December, even on my very birthday I fled to Telford in the cold, but I love every moment, and I love my club, and I wouldn't change it for the world.

I sometimes ponder over whether I care as much for the national team, and I don't think I'll ever be able to fully answer what I'd prefer. Woking in the league or England to win the World Cup. If I had to I suspect I'd choose club before country.

Club before country.

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