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Sat 05/06/04 at 16:30
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"SOUP!"
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If space is infinite, which is almost definitely is, then by all sense of logic there is every possible manner of existence out there, and thus it is a near certainty that millions of light years away there are duplicates also.

So, from my reasoning there is every single possible variation of the life that you lead going on somewhere in the vastness of space. Perhaps a minor decision you made in your life, such as skipping school one day to scuttle down to the park prevented you from getting a grade A in science in your exams, which in turn prevented you going to medical school and joining a medical research team and consequently not discovering the cure for the common cold. Perhaps the example is slightly far-fetched but if every eventuality of life is possible, which theoretically it is through an infinitum number of existences, in one scenario you are the highest power of all; perhaps a Dictator or a King, and in another scenario you are the lowliest peasant.

Again theoretically someone has already written these very words countless millions of times, and using the same theory they will be written many more millions of times. In another existence you have almost certainly already read these very words before, perhaps seated on your singular wooden bench in your peasant shack, or again maybe you read these words in the back of your solid gold helicopter whilst attending a world summit.

If space is infinite and there are countless levels of existence then surely the concept of there being a God is by no means nonsense. Theoretically if it can logically be assumed then it can, and probably has or will happen, thus making ever religion on Earth plausible. Basically if it cannot be presumed that space is finite then nothing can strictly be disproved, only assumed.
Sun 06/06/04 at 11:18
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"SOUP!"
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How long did it take you to come up with that one, PIIIIG ?
Sun 06/06/04 at 11:13
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"Puerile Shagging"
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Theories of infinity are so limited.
Sun 06/06/04 at 11:04
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"SOUP!"
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I was going to cover the time infinitium idea too but thought it might get confusing.

If time always is, always has been and always will be then it stands to reason that there will always have to be something for time to be applied to; namely some form of existance. If there is nothing left for it to be applied to, can we be sure that time still exists?
Sun 06/06/04 at 02:26
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"~a Libertine~"
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It doesnt grow 'into' anything, it just grows. Since nothing by definition is outside space there is absolutely no way of you reaching or seeing outside the universe. In effect it doesnt exist.
Sun 06/06/04 at 02:13
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"Dr. Chad Niga"
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According to the big bang theory, space is not infinite.

But then, what is space growing in to?
Sun 06/06/04 at 02:04
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"~a Libertine~"
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Space is probably not infinite, there are a lot of problems that come with the suggestion that spacetime is infinite. For example if space was infinite the entire universe would be constantly collapsing to every point in space, which we know to be false (well at least scientifically, nihilistic arguments are best left for now).

However the model where the universe is finite seems to work well scientifically...

Also you seem to contradict yourself when talking of what is 'outside' space. By definition of the universe, nothing else does or can exist outside space. Some scientists say that other universes exist outside, or even overlapping our own universe, but this is really just terminology used by said scientists to explain the concept of different, unaffectable dimensions to the laymen.

Im more suprised you didnt use the angle that time was infinite, it seems to appeal to people more than an ominous unending space... the sense that things 'are' and always have been seems to be more comforting.
Sat 05/06/04 at 21:17
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"Digging!"
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Flock wrote:
> Allred wrote:
> Space may be infinite, but what happens if matter and energy are
> not?
> That throws the whole theroy into question.
>
> Matter and energy are never changing, they simply change form, energy
> cant be created or destroyed, it exists as much as it ever has done.

And? That doesn't mean it is infinite... Just that it never is created/destroyed.
Sat 05/06/04 at 20:29
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"gsybe you!"
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You just build a load of sandbags, plonk an Obelisk of Light on the end and watch your troubles go up in lasery deth.
Sat 05/06/04 at 20:27
"period drama"
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Perhaps the universe is expanding into more universe - like in Comand and Conquer, where you can only see a bit of the map at the start, the rest is there - just shrouded in shadows.
But what happens when you get to the edge of the map?
And what happens when everyone realises this is complete cockwash?

I can't watch.
Sat 05/06/04 at 20:08
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"SOUP!"
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mattributé wrote:
> Space is expanding. Therefore, it must be finite

The universe is expanding, space is the absence of matter between it that it is expanding into.


> And outside space, who knows?

A grassy knoll?

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