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While I was browsing the site you can find if you [URL]http://www.martialartsplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14510&page=2&pp=15[/URL] , I came across this interesting story.
Some people were arguing over which version of Taoism was the best (Taoism was an alternative to Buddhism in China) and also what was best out of Buddhism and Taoism (which was silly considering that they're both so similar and a proper Taoist/Buddhist wouldn't be bothered by who's belief is best...) and a guy came out with this analogy:
It's like in the old story of the blind guys all grabbing an elephant on a different part and then trying to describe to each other what an elephant really is based on the one part they have in their hands. One guy has an ear, one guy has the tail, one guy has the torso, one guy has a leg, another guy has a tusk. They all have a real part of the elephant, but they also all have completely different descriptions and end up getting mad and yelling at each other about what an elephant is really like. It isn't because they are stupid or wrong, it is because they can't see the rest of the elephant.
Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, you name it, they all have dozens, if not hundreds, of sects just because of "blindness" regarding their other parts. If you dig into the roots of the traditions you'll see that most of the founders of different religions all warned against this happening. But, people being who they are, everyone wants their part of the elephant to be the best one and don't give a monkey's (or an elephant's) butt about the other parts (if they even admit that other parts exist) and spend all day yelling about their own.
Do you think that God has revealed EVERYTHING there is to know about him in your Bible?
Even if you were to be right, that would not necessarily make over religions and beliefs wrong?
What do you think? :-)
Some people were arguing over which version of Taoism was the best (Taoism was an alternative to Buddhism in China) and also what was best out of Buddhism and Taoism (which was silly considering that they're both so similar and a proper Taoist/Buddhist wouldn't be bothered by who's belief is best...) and a guy came out with this analogy:
It's like in the old story of the blind guys all grabbing an elephant on a different part and then trying to describe to each other what an elephant really is based on the one part they have in their hands. One guy has an ear, one guy has the tail, one guy has the torso, one guy has a leg, another guy has a tusk. They all have a real part of the elephant, but they also all have completely different descriptions and end up getting mad and yelling at each other about what an elephant is really like. It isn't because they are stupid or wrong, it is because they can't see the rest of the elephant.
Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, you name it, they all have dozens, if not hundreds, of sects just because of "blindness" regarding their other parts. If you dig into the roots of the traditions you'll see that most of the founders of different religions all warned against this happening. But, people being who they are, everyone wants their part of the elephant to be the best one and don't give a monkey's (or an elephant's) butt about the other parts (if they even admit that other parts exist) and spend all day yelling about their own.
Do you think that God has revealed EVERYTHING there is to know about him in your Bible?
Even if you were to be right, that would not necessarily make over religions and beliefs wrong?
What do you think? :-)
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Quite an interesting read actually, but that's gotta be a joke. They even link to a site for a society that believes the Earth is a perfect sphere, not bulgy like it actually is.
Oh, and FF, I did your job of finding crappy Bible quotes to embarass yourself with. Here's the Bible's "evidence" of the Earth being flat:
http://www.cca.org/woc/felfat/bible.html
Oh, and FF, I did your job of finding crappy Bible quotes to embarass yourself with. Here's the Bible's "evidence" of the Earth being flat:
http://www.cca.org/woc/felfat/bible.html
Bwahahahahahaha
From http://www.flat-earth.org :
"fashionable, politically correct Spherical Earth theory"
So, the Earth is flat and made of of 5 sides, and it's fashionable and politically correct (wtf?) to not agree? So that must means it's un-fashionable and politically in-correct to think it is. Which means they're nerdy racists. Probably!
One question to these people: How comes all the satellites the UK, USA, China and Russia send up maintain geosynchronous orbits and haven't come crashing down on the land, despite vanishing magically over ye olde horizon?
That's actually easier to debunk that Forest Fan, and they've got their own website!
From http://www.flat-earth.org :
"fashionable, politically correct Spherical Earth theory"
So, the Earth is flat and made of of 5 sides, and it's fashionable and politically correct (wtf?) to not agree? So that must means it's un-fashionable and politically in-correct to think it is. Which means they're nerdy racists. Probably!
One question to these people: How comes all the satellites the UK, USA, China and Russia send up maintain geosynchronous orbits and haven't come crashing down on the land, despite vanishing magically over ye olde horizon?
That's actually easier to debunk that Forest Fan, and they've got their own website!
Allred wrote:
> http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563487933
But that's not evidence. It's a link to a shop selling a book by one of Monty Python. And anyway a book is still as ropey evidence as the Bible - another book written by some men.
> http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563487933
But that's not evidence. It's a link to a shop selling a book by one of Monty Python. And anyway a book is still as ropey evidence as the Bible - another book written by some men.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Allred wrote:
> I'll go looksee for some evidence.
>
> Cool. I'll be interested in reading that. Cheers.
God, you gunna laugh at this. The only place I can find the evidence is in the folloing book:
http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563487933
> Allred wrote:
> I'll go looksee for some evidence.
>
> Cool. I'll be interested in reading that. Cheers.
God, you gunna laugh at this. The only place I can find the evidence is in the folloing book:
http://www.bbcshop.com/invt/0563487933
monkey_man wrote:
> *sigh*
>
> Where?
Here comes the bible quote.....................
> *sigh*
>
> Where?
Here comes the bible quote.....................
Forest Fan wrote:
> Despite when most people thought the world was flat, the Bible always
> showed it to be round.
*sigh*
Where?
> Despite when most people thought the world was flat, the Bible always
> showed it to be round.
*sigh*
Where?
I sense the return of the dinosaur debate...
Allred wrote:
> I'll go looksee for some evidence.
Cool. I'll be interested in reading that. Cheers.
> I'll go looksee for some evidence.
Cool. I'll be interested in reading that. Cheers.
I'll go looksee for some evidence.
Allred wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> Or if you thought the world was flat.
>
> They didn't ever believe that in the past. I was all made up in a
> very poplular biography of some guy in the victorian times, and all
> the 'commoners' thought it was true, and thus people think that in
> the olden day people thought the world was flat.
"Between the fall of the Roman Empire and the renaissance of science several centuries later, some Christian writers questioned and even opposed Earth's sphericity, although it is not clearly known how influential their views were. Even before the Renaissance began, the flat Earth theory had almost died out, yielding by the 900s or 1100s to the idea that Earth is a globe.
Some Christians in England and America tried to revive Flat Earth thinking in the 19th century. Today, a few thousand people around the world maintain a belief in a flat earth (see Flat Earth Society)."
*shrug* if what you are saying is true, that's quite interesting. Every day a school day and that. It's not what I've heard however. :)
> Pandaemonium wrote:
>
> Or if you thought the world was flat.
>
> They didn't ever believe that in the past. I was all made up in a
> very poplular biography of some guy in the victorian times, and all
> the 'commoners' thought it was true, and thus people think that in
> the olden day people thought the world was flat.
"Between the fall of the Roman Empire and the renaissance of science several centuries later, some Christian writers questioned and even opposed Earth's sphericity, although it is not clearly known how influential their views were. Even before the Renaissance began, the flat Earth theory had almost died out, yielding by the 900s or 1100s to the idea that Earth is a globe.
Some Christians in England and America tried to revive Flat Earth thinking in the 19th century. Today, a few thousand people around the world maintain a belief in a flat earth (see Flat Earth Society)."
*shrug* if what you are saying is true, that's quite interesting. Every day a school day and that. It's not what I've heard however. :)
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