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Fri 07/05/04 at 07:40
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"Monochromatic"
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I'll put this up while i'm in the right frame of mind to post it, your views are wlecome.

FOUR NOBLE TRUTHS
The Four Noble Truths represent the core of
the teachings of the Buddha, and are as follows:

The First Noble Truth
Unsatisfactoriness and suffering exist and
are universally experienced.

The Second Noble Truth
Desire and attachment are the causes of
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.

The Third Noble Truth
There is an end to
unsatisfactoriness and suffering.

The Fourth Noble Truth
The end can be attained by
journeying on the Noble Eightfold Path.




NOBLE EIGHTFOLD PATH
Right Understanding
Right Thinking
Right Speech
Right Action
Right Livelihood
Right Effort
Right Mindfulness
Right Concentration

1. Right View

See things as they truly are without delusions or distortions
for all things change. Develop wisdom by knowing how things
work, knowing oneself and others.

2. Right Intention

Wholehearted resolution and dedication to overcoming the
dislocation of self-centered craving through the development
of loving kindness, empathy and compassion.

3. Right Speech

Abstinence from lies and deceptions, backbiting, idle
babble and abusive speech. Cultivate honesty and
truthfulness; practice speech that is kind and benevolent.
Let your words reflect your desire to help, not harm others.

4.Right Action

Practice self-less conduct that reflects the highest
statement of the life you want to live. Express conduct
that is peaceful, honest and pure showing compassion
for all beings.

5. Right Livelihood

Avoidance of work that causes suffering to others or that
makes a decent, virtuous life impossible. Do not engage
in any occupation that opposes or distracts one from the
path. Love and serve our world through your work.

6. Right Effort

Seek to make the balance between the exertion of following
the spiritual path and a moderate life that is not over-zealous.
Work to develop more wholesome mind states, while gently
striving to go deeper and live more fully.

7. Right Mindfulness

Through constant vigilance in thought, speech and action
seek to rid the mind of self-centered thoughts that separate
and replace them with those that bind all beings together.
Be aware of your thoughts, emotions, body and world as they
exist in the present moment. Your thoughts create your reality.

8. Right Concentration

Through the application of meditation and mental discipline seek
to extinguish the last flame of grasping consciousness and develop
an emptiness that has room to embrace and love all things.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:40
Regular
"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
Cyclone wrote:
> Oh dear.
>
> 1) What gave God the right?

He's our Creator.

> 2) Shut up

Nope.

> 3) He hardly demands total devotion to himself - it's rather more for
> personal enlightenment.

What for?

> 4) Like Light said, you are the most transparent person ever on SR...

Most assured, yes, I would agree.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:40
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
Forest Fan wrote:

>
> And who gave him the right to start making up rules then?


Same person who gave you the right to call yourself Jewish and Christian when it's a theological impossibility?
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:39
Regular
"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Our devotion is to become Buddha.
>
> Morph into the bloke?
>
> Pathetic trolling attempt.

A question and a lot less than the dozens Light asks.

>
> You aspire to be like Christ don't you? Morals, ideals etc. Thats
> what is meant by "to become Buddha".

And why is Buddha such a good person. What did he ever do for anyone?
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:39
Regular
"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Oh dear.

1) What gave God the right?
2) Shut up
3) He hardly demands total devotion to himself - it's rather more for personal enlightenment.
4) Like Light said, you are the most transparent person ever on SR...
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:38
Regular
"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
Forest Fan wrote:
> Pandaemonium wrote:
> Our devotion is to become Buddha.
>
> Morph into the bloke?

Pathetic trolling attempt.

You aspire to be like Christ don't you? Morals, ideals etc. Thats what is meant by "to become Buddha".

[edit] and Buddha is a method of bettering yourself in preperation for the next life.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:37
Regular
"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Our devotion is to become Buddha.

Morph into the bloke?
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:36
Regular
"RIP: Brian Clough"
Posts: 10,491
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> So did Gautam Buddha make up the rules then?
>
> Looks like it.
>
> [URL]http://www.uga.edu/religion/rk/basehtml/guides/BDMGID.html[/URL]

And who gave him the right to start making up rules then?
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:34
Regular
"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
And to pre-empt you forest fan.

[URL] http://www.amtbweb.org/tchet113.htm[/URL]

Buddhism is Not a Religion

According to the Webster's Dictionary, the definition of religion is as follows, "An organized system of beliefs, rites, and celebrations centered on a supernatural being power; belief pursued with devotion.

"Buddhism is not a religion because:

First, the Buddha is not a 'supernatural being power'. The Buddha is simply a person who has reached Complete Understanding of the reality of life and the universe. Life refers to ourselves, and universe refers to our living environment. The Buddha taught that all beings possess the same ability to reach Complete Understanding of themselves and their environment, and relieve themselves from all sufferings to attain utmost happiness. All beings can become Buddhas, and all beings and the Buddha are equal by nature. The Buddha is not a God, but a teacher, who teach us the way to restore Wisdom and Understanding by conquering the greed, hatred, and ignorance which blind us at the present moment. The word 'Buddha' is a Sanskrit word, when translated it means, "Wisdom, Awareness/Understanding". We call the founder of Buddhism Shakyamuni Buddha because He has attained Complete Understanding and Wisdom of life and the universe. Buddhism is His education to us, it is His teaching which shine the way to Buddhahood.

Buddhism is not a religion because:

Second, the 'belief' in the Buddha's teachings is not blind belief, or blind faith. Shakyamuni Buddha taught us not to blindly believe what he tells us, he wants us to try the teachings and prove them for ourselves. The Buddha wants us to know, not merely believe. The Buddha's teachings flow from his own experience and understanding of the truth, and shows us a path of our own to taste the truth for ourselves. The Buddha uses a perfectly scientific way of showing us reality in its true form.Third, Buddhism is not a religion because all the 'rites and celebrations' are not centered on a supernatural being, but rather the people attending the assemblies. The ceremonies and celebrations in Buddhism all serve an educational purpose, a reminder of the Buddha's teachings and encouragement to all students who practice it. The point of the ceremonies is to help others awaken from delusion and return to Wisdom and Understanding.

Finally, Buddhism is not a religion because

the 'devotion' used in Buddhism is not one based on emotion, but one based on reason. Students of the Buddha are devoted to their practice of maintaining Purity of Mind because this practice brings true happiness. We are devoted to helping both ourselves and others attain Complete Understanding and Wisdom. Our devotion is to become Buddha.
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:30
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
Forest Fan wrote:

>
> So did Gautam Buddha make up the rules then?

God, how transparent are you? What next? You gonna say he did it for his kids entertainment?

Buddhism isn't a religion dear boy; it doesn't rely on the worship of any God.

I'd steer clear of petty accusations of "making up rules" if I were you; coming from the boy who has decided that he is a Jewish Christian but "doesn't have a conventional view of Judaism", you sound even more of a rancid hypocrite than usual...
Tue 11/05/04 at 10:27
Regular
"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
Forest Fan wrote:
> So did Gautam Buddha make up the rules then?

Looks like it.

[URL]http://www.uga.edu/religion/rk/basehtml/guides/BDMGID.html[/URL]

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