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Thu 29/04/04 at 11:03
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Let's have a look at Sven-Goran Eriksson's favoured selections for that No.1 jersey in the England national team, shall we:

-David James (Manchester City)
-Paul Robinson (Leeds United / to Spurs?)
-Ian Walker (Leicester City)

Forget about the names for a second, and just look at the teams of which these "Top 3" 'keepers currently play for, and what do you notice...
Yes, they're all teams still within a good chance of dropping-down a division come this time next month.

Now, is this really such a good thing to have when your country's supposed to be in with a good chance of winning Euro 2004?

I know it doesn't seem like there are many other places to look, but should really be looking towards the clubs higher up the table - and even into their second-string and reserve squads, if neccesary?

Whatever did happen to Arsénal's Stuart Taylor?
Surely, players like him are still at a club like that for a very good reason...!

Irrespective (again), of who these men actually are, surely a No.1 international goalkeeper has got to be someone with great experience at the highest level - in the current flow of today's game (not 7-years-ago!)?


Even after those three, there's still only:

-Robert Green (newly-promoted Norwich City)
-Chris Kirkland (Liverpool)

One man has only played in the First Division and (not disrespect to him), he's about to be hit very hard by the cruel realities of Premiership football (and Thierry Henry). While, the other (Kirkland), has pretty much spent much of the past year-or-so of his young career on the treatment table; pushing Tottenham's Darren Anderton and Jamie Redknapp for that all-unimportant World Record...

It doesn't really get any better for us, does it. :P


Even if you go to their names, you only have to hear 'David James' (as a Liverpool fan) or 'Ian Walker' (if your a Spurs boy) before your laughing away the past and thinking "Thank God we finally got rid of him!!". I've said this several times before, and it's true: it'll only take one simple (and regular) mistake against a side like France or Spain before we're already a goal-down in a game we cannot win.

I still believe Nigel Martyn was `The One´ to replaced David Seaman, although, while he could stand to shed a few pounds, not even Viagra could help to lose some of those 36 years he's gained.


England in Euro 2004 - is it over even before it's started?
Fri 30/04/04 at 00:13
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If you are talking about the best english keeper, who has been in form all season you need look no further than Nigel Martyn. David James is still accident prone, Kirkland is injured, Robinson is not good enough yet, but will be, Russell Hoult has been injured for most of the season, Robert Green is far too inexperienced. Walker is not the best


Nigel Martyn is playing just as well as he was in the leeds team.
Thu 29/04/04 at 22:16
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Paul Robinson is a good keeper I think, a few years ago Leeds were in the Champions League and he was playing in them so its not really like he is at a bad club because nobody better wants him.

Just be glad you don't have to choose between Rab Douglas and Paul Gallagher for who is the number 1 keeper.
Thu 29/04/04 at 19:48
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I would love to have seen what Matt Murray would of been like in the Premiership. He was superb for Wolves when they gained promotion and he also played well for Englands U-21's squad.

He got injured in the summer and hasn't returened since then.

Another keeper that has the potential to become Englands number 1 is Russell Hoult. I thought he was amazing for West Brom and if it wasn't for him West Brom would of been losing games 3-0 and 4-0 just like Wolves did this season.

He's also done great to help West Brom reach promotion this year too.
Thu 29/04/04 at 19:40
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Paul Robinson, it has to be. Have him in goal, protected by Gardner and King. As sturdy a goal protection as you can get. Mwahhahaha, play brown and redknapp infront of them with rickets on the left. Then a bit the ol' defoe upfront.

You'd only need those 7 players to win it! :p
Thu 29/04/04 at 18:40
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Of course he would.
Thu 29/04/04 at 16:04
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If he was always fit Chris Kirkland would be the logical replacement in the long run for David Seaman.
Thu 29/04/04 at 15:59
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Solskjær wrote:
> I still believe Nigel Martyn was `The One´ to replaced
> David Seaman, although, while he could stand to shed a few pounds,
> not even Viagra could help to lose some of those 36 years he's
> gained.

*is amused*

But I agree, even this season he's been pretty good for Everton.
Thu 29/04/04 at 15:51
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Stuart Taylor keeps on getting injured and Graham Stack who's irish looks far more promising to me.
Thu 29/04/04 at 14:32
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>Now, is this really such a good thing to have when your country's supposed
>to be in with a good chance of winning Euro 2004?

Where on earth did you hear that rumour from :D

You're right in one respect. When I hear the name David James I do think thank god we got rid of him and when I hear he has been picked as the goalkeeper I do tend to have a mental wince.
Thu 29/04/04 at 11:03
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"Long time no see!"
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Let's have a look at Sven-Goran Eriksson's favoured selections for that No.1 jersey in the England national team, shall we:

-David James (Manchester City)
-Paul Robinson (Leeds United / to Spurs?)
-Ian Walker (Leicester City)

Forget about the names for a second, and just look at the teams of which these "Top 3" 'keepers currently play for, and what do you notice...
Yes, they're all teams still within a good chance of dropping-down a division come this time next month.

Now, is this really such a good thing to have when your country's supposed to be in with a good chance of winning Euro 2004?

I know it doesn't seem like there are many other places to look, but should really be looking towards the clubs higher up the table - and even into their second-string and reserve squads, if neccesary?

Whatever did happen to Arsénal's Stuart Taylor?
Surely, players like him are still at a club like that for a very good reason...!

Irrespective (again), of who these men actually are, surely a No.1 international goalkeeper has got to be someone with great experience at the highest level - in the current flow of today's game (not 7-years-ago!)?


Even after those three, there's still only:

-Robert Green (newly-promoted Norwich City)
-Chris Kirkland (Liverpool)

One man has only played in the First Division and (not disrespect to him), he's about to be hit very hard by the cruel realities of Premiership football (and Thierry Henry). While, the other (Kirkland), has pretty much spent much of the past year-or-so of his young career on the treatment table; pushing Tottenham's Darren Anderton and Jamie Redknapp for that all-unimportant World Record...

It doesn't really get any better for us, does it. :P


Even if you go to their names, you only have to hear 'David James' (as a Liverpool fan) or 'Ian Walker' (if your a Spurs boy) before your laughing away the past and thinking "Thank God we finally got rid of him!!". I've said this several times before, and it's true: it'll only take one simple (and regular) mistake against a side like France or Spain before we're already a goal-down in a game we cannot win.

I still believe Nigel Martyn was `The One´ to replaced David Seaman, although, while he could stand to shed a few pounds, not even Viagra could help to lose some of those 36 years he's gained.


England in Euro 2004 - is it over even before it's started?

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