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Thu 29/04/04 at 11:03
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Let's have a look at Sven-Goran Eriksson's favoured selections for that No.1 jersey in the England national team, shall we:

-David James (Manchester City)
-Paul Robinson (Leeds United / to Spurs?)
-Ian Walker (Leicester City)

Forget about the names for a second, and just look at the teams of which these "Top 3" 'keepers currently play for, and what do you notice...
Yes, they're all teams still within a good chance of dropping-down a division come this time next month.

Now, is this really such a good thing to have when your country's supposed to be in with a good chance of winning Euro 2004?

I know it doesn't seem like there are many other places to look, but should really be looking towards the clubs higher up the table - and even into their second-string and reserve squads, if neccesary?

Whatever did happen to Arsénal's Stuart Taylor?
Surely, players like him are still at a club like that for a very good reason...!

Irrespective (again), of who these men actually are, surely a No.1 international goalkeeper has got to be someone with great experience at the highest level - in the current flow of today's game (not 7-years-ago!)?


Even after those three, there's still only:

-Robert Green (newly-promoted Norwich City)
-Chris Kirkland (Liverpool)

One man has only played in the First Division and (not disrespect to him), he's about to be hit very hard by the cruel realities of Premiership football (and Thierry Henry). While, the other (Kirkland), has pretty much spent much of the past year-or-so of his young career on the treatment table; pushing Tottenham's Darren Anderton and Jamie Redknapp for that all-unimportant World Record...

It doesn't really get any better for us, does it. :P


Even if you go to their names, you only have to hear 'David James' (as a Liverpool fan) or 'Ian Walker' (if your a Spurs boy) before your laughing away the past and thinking "Thank God we finally got rid of him!!". I've said this several times before, and it's true: it'll only take one simple (and regular) mistake against a side like France or Spain before we're already a goal-down in a game we cannot win.

I still believe Nigel Martyn was `The One´ to replaced David Seaman, although, while he could stand to shed a few pounds, not even Viagra could help to lose some of those 36 years he's gained.


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Sun 02/05/04 at 11:06
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Forest Fan wrote:
> Doubt he will though - stuff like this never seems to happen to
> England.

Owen Hargreaves?
Sat 01/05/04 at 11:47
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Ashman wrote:
> Yeah I thought he got injured too. Can't Carlo Cudicini play for us in
> a few months or something?

Doubt he will though - stuff like this never seems to happen to England.
Sat 01/05/04 at 11:43
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Yeah I thought he got injured too. Can't Carlo Cudicini play for us in a few months or something?
Sat 01/05/04 at 10:09
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Forest Fan wrote:
> What happened to Nigel Martyn? He was constantly in the England squad
> - second choice goalkeeper every match. And then one day he was left
> out - and still is. Strange.

It was due to a string of bad injuries and fitness problems. However, his fitness and form have now improved at Everton.
Fri 30/04/04 at 21:53
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Ahoho.
Fri 30/04/04 at 21:53
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Wayne Henderson for England!
Fri 30/04/04 at 11:11
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What happened to Nigel Martyn? He was constantly in the England squad - second choice goalkeeper every match. And then one day he was left out - and still is. Strange.
Fri 30/04/04 at 10:36
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Bob_Monkhouse wrote:
> If you are talking about the best english keeper, who has been in form
> all season you need look no further than Nigel Martyn. David James is
> still accident prone, Kirkland is injured, Robinson is not good
> enough yet, but will be, Russell Hoult has been injured for most of
> the season, Robert Green is far too inexperienced. Walker is not the
> best
>
>
> Nigel Martyn is playing just as well as he was in the leeds team.

I completely agree. I think that Martyn should at least be in the squad, which he stupidly is not. Then, if he is not fit then he does not have to play and can hand over the shirt to one of the other two. I'd have James and Robinson there alongside him, and there still isn't a worry of running out of keepers at all. If we take Walker we just won't use him.
Fri 30/04/04 at 08:17
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We really need one of Ireland's goalkeepers. Shay Given and Dean Kiely - that's not a bad pair of 'keepers.
Fri 30/04/04 at 08:14
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Nigel Martyn is playing extremely well at the moment, making some fantastic reflex saves. He may be getting a bit unfit, but he did have a few bad injuries recently.

He only looks bad due to Everton's relatively poor defence. A good keeper needs a half decent defence in front of him so he isn't forced into stupid errors by halfwit full-backs.

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