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Fri 23/04/04 at 00:50
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"Brooklyn boy"
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Was reading a story the other day about a kid who got hurt when him and his friends were imitating the show Jackass by performing dangerous stunts. Well the stupid muppet got himself burned and scarred for life after he was jumping over burning barrels as his mates poured petrol on them and they exploded (wow who'd have thought that would have happened eh?)

Now at this point in the article i was laughing at the sheer stupidity of this moron however the next bit was what annoyed me, a supposed quote from his mother saying that 'the tv show, Jackass should be banned, they're too blame for this happening to my boy'

Now sorry but that is a load of rubbish. The question that should be getting asked here is where were his bloody parents when he decided jumping over burning barrels would be fun not to mention the fact why haven't they taught him that petrol added to flames isn't going to result in a happy time especially when you're jumping over it at the time.

However the sad reality is this sort of thing is now common place in society, everyone wants someone else to blame for their own stupidity and no one is prepared to take responsibility for their own or their childrens actions. I mean how many times have we seen the old headline *Videogames made my Little Timmy go on a killing spree* forget the fact the parents can't be bothered to raise the kid themselves so put him infront of the tv with a joypad in his hands all day, forget the fact they're buying games for Little Timmy that he shouldn't be playing but just to have a quiet life they buy him the latest Grand Theft Auto so it means they don't have to bother about him when he gets back in from school. Obviously when he grows up a socially inept loner it's all because of those evil videogames.

I just want to know exactly when did this happen? Why are we suddenly slap bang in the middle of the 'blame culture' Is it because we're all after an easy buck or are we really just too cowardly to accept the blame ourselves and realise when something is our fault?
Fri 23/04/04 at 15:37
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One thing that irritates me the most is when parents blame video games for their childs wild behaviour. A prime example being Grand Theft Auto, they complain to the news that their little 12 year old boy thinks stealing cars is ok with a shotgun.

To the parents fail to look at the age rating for the game? 18, You have to be eighteen to play it, it's up to the parents what they show their kids. I mean come on, why would they buy it for them if they already new the content in the title.

It's just plain stupidity more then anything.
Fri 23/04/04 at 14:13
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"Wanking Mong"
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ßulle†† wrote:

>
>
> That's the media for you. Bloody newspapers, they never hesitate to
> kick a man when he's down. I say well done to Ron. He screwed up, but
> he admitted fault, accepted the consequence and is even going out of
> his way to make amends.

Yup; anyone can make a stupid mistake, and his was more stupid than most. But he's not tried to excuse himself from responsibility.
>
> Ban him from all Premiership stadiums?! Bo**ocks. There are far more
> REAL racists still out there.

Yup. Leeds Supporters club for example. Though as a toon fan I'm a little embarrassed that we signed Bellamy, Bowyer, and Woodgate.
Fri 23/04/04 at 14:10
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"I'm not Orgazmo"
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The only reason people blame other people is because they have to be quick off the mark before someone thinks of blaming them.
Fri 23/04/04 at 13:10
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"Twenty quid."
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lalakersrule wrote:
> *Videogames made my Little Timmy go on a killing spree*
*****

Look, that was ages ago and I've changed since then. Besides, that old lady was a secret agent - I don't care what the Police say.
Fri 23/04/04 at 09:51
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Very_Metal wrote:
> Take the current Ron Atkinson slip-up. sure it was a crappy thing to say > and he shouldn't have said it, but not only did he voluntarily resign,
> apologise AND say he'd be more than happy to meet the player face to
> face and apologise in person (which takes balls) so he accepts that
> he's made a mistake and taken it on the chin. result? today the
> papers are calling for him to be banned from all premiership stadiums.


That's the media for you. Bloody newspapers, they never hesitate to kick a man when he's down. I say well done to Ron. He screwed up, but he admitted fault, accepted the consequence and is even going out of his way to make amends.

Ban him from all Premiership stadiums?! Bo**ocks. There are far more REAL racists still out there.

Maybe they should ban all journalists from gossiping and stirring...
Fri 23/04/04 at 09:46
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"Lisan al-Gaib"
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So the kid seriously burned himself while jumping through a fire. Good for him. He probably should have read the disclaimer about professional stunt people at the start of Jackass.

I'm only sorry he didn't kill himself. It would be one less idiot to pollute the gene pool.
Fri 23/04/04 at 09:43
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"you've got a beard"
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the whole thing boils down to a witch hunt no matter what you say though.
On the one hand the parents quickly get up in arms and blame music, tv, video games (hehe, never books though.. although i doubt most of them can manage big words anyway) for anything their cretinous offspring attempt (i drove past a group of kids yesterday who's game involved kicking a football at passing cars and buses... i mean, what's the point??) and immediately there's a media backlash against these things.

Now even if yo admit it's your fault the same thing happens. Take the current Ron Atkinson slip-up. sure it was a crappy thing to say and he shouldn't have said it, but not only did he voluntarily resign, apologise AND say he'd be more than happy to meet the player face to face and apologise in person (which takes balls) so he accepts that he's made a mistake and taken it on the chin. result? today the papers are calling for him to be banned from all premiership stadiums.

it all smacks of putting the boot in and going for easy targets in either situation :(
Fri 23/04/04 at 08:00
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TV shows/videogames etc. can't be blamed for this kind of thing. The sad thing is, though, that they do - all the time. Even music 'tells us to burn things'. It's crazy. What's even crazier, is that the 'higher powers' are too retarded to see through the fact that blaming these forms of entertainment is totally unacceptable - for the most part anyway.

See, with games and TV shows, there is almost always a disclaimer (Jackass plasters it in your face every show - it's unavoidable if you're watching the show.) saying "Don't try this at home etc. We cannot be held responsible for the retards out there who attempt to copy this stuff etc."
If peopple choose to ignore those warnings/disclaimers, that's their problem and they should be willing to accept the consequences of their stupidity should they choose to go ahead with whatever they're going to do.

With music it's a different story, which is a shame really. The only practical disclaimers they can use are to be placed in the little book that hardly anyone reads. People take things mentioned in music far too seriously i.e. Eminem killing his wife etc. and allow themselves to be warped by such things.

I don't know where I'm going with this, hold on a sec...

Maybe it's down to psychology. The people who actually do 'what the media tells them' must have something wrong up there *points to head*. I can honestly say I have never felt the urge to kill, steal, vandalise etc. after listening to music/watching a programme or movie/playing a game. I bet you can too. There's got to be something going on up there *points to head again* for such media to affect people's decisions. I admit, I've seen programmes like Jackass, Dirty Sanchez etc. and thought it'd be fun to copy the stuff I've seen - but I've never gone ahead with it! I'd be stupid to, because I know I'd screw up and end up hurting myself.

Bottom line, Media shouldn't be to blame for whatever spasticated shenanigans these people get up to. Blame it on their heads, their parents, on America and it's all-you-can-sue mentality. Heck, blame it on society in general - it's clear this world has declined into a greedy, power hungry, lazy-arsed planet.

Media is the victim here, not 'Little Timmy'.
Fri 23/04/04 at 07:36
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"www.360volts.tk"
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i saw some cheep imitation of jackass, this bloke broke his finger,arm,leg and two ribs trying to jump off a brigde to the croud below
Fri 23/04/04 at 01:44
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"Monochromatic"
Posts: 18,487
lalakersrule wrote:
> I just want to know exactly when did this happen?
T.V became the babysitter for parent's when it became a acceptable substitute, mid eighties i think when the gender boundaries were lost and everyone wanted a life of there own instead of looking after their kids. T.V has become an idealist escape, we are constantly told you can have it all, and the fools believed it.
I think dignity or lack of it is also now a widespread problem, it used to be the only reason to keep your house tidy or keep your kids in check was so you didnt upset your neighbours, but it has now become as though life has become too difficult to bother with anyone else.
We are increasingly isolationist to the majority of people around us, everyone has started moving in their own private circles and anyone else is a threat.
We are low on trust, blame the media for poisoning us against each other.
Blame culture = american idealism
Lack of pride = Laziness
Apathy towards others = Media

Rant over !
Although i don't feel i've actually answered the question.

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