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Well Well Sony and MS drop the price of there already very affordable machines this can only be a bad thing for GC as no-one can buy a GC and seperate DVD player for £159 or £169.
As I have stated countless times before the GC is cheap because it is a cheap piece of technology.
Facts
GC Xbox PS2
1.5 gig format 4.5gig dvd 4.5gig dvd
Dvd playback none Yes needs controller Yes out of the box
10 million 90 million 20 million
polys per second polys per second polys per second
Dolby 5.1 none Dolby 5.1 yes Dolby 5.1 yes
Serial ports USB, Opitical, ethernet USB, firewire,Optical
480 x 640 1172 x 800 at least 1172 x 800 at least
These are a few examples and just go to show why the GC is cheaper than the other two console because it's old hat technology, the one bit of modern technology is not worth having the custom 1.5 discs (Resi Evil on two disc so yesterday) are a waste of time and only designed so that Nintendo can charge the publishers more for custom tooling.
As I have stated countless times before the GC is cheap because it is a cheap piece of technology.
Facts
GC Xbox PS2
1.5 gig format 4.5gig dvd 4.5gig dvd
Dvd playback none Yes needs controller Yes out of the box
10 million 90 million 20 million
polys per second polys per second polys per second
Dolby 5.1 none Dolby 5.1 yes Dolby 5.1 yes
Serial ports USB, Opitical, ethernet USB, firewire,Optical
480 x 640 1172 x 800 at least 1172 x 800 at least
These are a few examples and just go to show why the GC is cheaper than the other two console because it's old hat technology, the one bit of modern technology is not worth having the custom 1.5 discs (Resi Evil on two disc so yesterday) are a waste of time and only designed so that Nintendo can charge the publishers more for custom tooling.
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cyclone are you saying you would buy a car which hasnt got a cup holder!!!!, shame on you. :-)
In my house, I have 3 DVD players. 1 connected to my PC, one connected to my flatmates PC (and through that via TV out to the TV) and the 3rd a normal standalone dvd unit connected to the TV.
Somebody please explain to me why a console with a DVD playing facility would be an attractive option for me?
Since I can assure you that it is not, surely I will instead be looking for game quality and experience instead.
Is it any wonder why I own a GameCube, and neither of the other current generation of consoles?
Somebody please explain to me why a console with a DVD playing facility would be an attractive option for me?
Since I can assure you that it is not, surely I will instead be looking for game quality and experience instead.
Is it any wonder why I own a GameCube, and neither of the other current generation of consoles?
heh
gc old hat.
heh
when i went to the gamey thing in cambridge on tuesday they had gcs and ps2s connected to the same size tvs. the GC graphics look amazing, very smooth and clear. the PS2 was having trouble with lines etc (can;t remember technical term) and the xboxs were in their ickle display stands with even smaller tvs and still GC graphics look ALOT better.
GC may not be most powerful on paper but i think it uses what it has got very well, unlike ps2 and xbox.
gc old hat.
heh
when i went to the gamey thing in cambridge on tuesday they had gcs and ps2s connected to the same size tvs. the GC graphics look amazing, very smooth and clear. the PS2 was having trouble with lines etc (can;t remember technical term) and the xboxs were in their ickle display stands with even smaller tvs and still GC graphics look ALOT better.
GC may not be most powerful on paper but i think it uses what it has got very well, unlike ps2 and xbox.
Cyclone wrote:
A)Cds are now totally defunct?
What format is your music on then?
B)The GC discs are actually more future friendly than DVDs - these diddy discs are going to have movies on some time in the future.
Full length movies at DVD quality on a 1.5Gb disc - not possible. That would require more capacity. The only way would be to reduce the quality, and/or ship the movie on 2 discs.
C)A standard like electric windows and a CD player? Shut up. They are just pointless gimmicks.
Well then, what about 5speed manual gearbox. This was not standard on every car to start with - but it is now.
A)Cds are now totally defunct?
What format is your music on then?
B)The GC discs are actually more future friendly than DVDs - these diddy discs are going to have movies on some time in the future.
Full length movies at DVD quality on a 1.5Gb disc - not possible. That would require more capacity. The only way would be to reduce the quality, and/or ship the movie on 2 discs.
C)A standard like electric windows and a CD player? Shut up. They are just pointless gimmicks.
Well then, what about 5speed manual gearbox. This was not standard on every car to start with - but it is now.
It's funny how Ninty fanboys hark on about how they don't need dvd and yet there game preview discs are dvd's.
Alright if you own a PS2 or a Xbox.
Alright if you own a PS2 or a Xbox.
Mr Ripper wrote:
> In my house, I have 3 DVD players. 1 connected to my PC, one connected
> to my flatmates PC (and through that via TV out to the TV) and the 3rd
> a normal standalone dvd unit connected to the TV.
>
> Somebody please explain to me why a console with a DVD playing
> facility would be an attractive option for me?
>
> Since I can assure you that it is not, surely I will instead be
> looking for game quality and experience instead.
>
> Is it any wonder why I own a GameCube, and neither of the other
> current generation of consoles?
Well Mr. Ripper,
Not everyone has access to as many DVD players as your good self. Some still haven't got their first player. These might be thinking of getting a next gen games console, and to them if would be a good move to buy one with DVD movie playback - saves them also buying a player. Another issue, is that like most people have more than one tv in the house, why shouldn't we have more than one dvd player in the house? So it's very possible, that the "main" room and tv already has a standalone dvd player, but upstairs could be an old PS1 or similar for the kids which is due to be replaced. If they get a PS2, it will also play dvd's. Finally, DVD will be common place and as standard as CD very soon. DVD won't be something people think about getting special - it will just be a standard and expected media form.
> In my house, I have 3 DVD players. 1 connected to my PC, one connected
> to my flatmates PC (and through that via TV out to the TV) and the 3rd
> a normal standalone dvd unit connected to the TV.
>
> Somebody please explain to me why a console with a DVD playing
> facility would be an attractive option for me?
>
> Since I can assure you that it is not, surely I will instead be
> looking for game quality and experience instead.
>
> Is it any wonder why I own a GameCube, and neither of the other
> current generation of consoles?
Well Mr. Ripper,
Not everyone has access to as many DVD players as your good self. Some still haven't got their first player. These might be thinking of getting a next gen games console, and to them if would be a good move to buy one with DVD movie playback - saves them also buying a player. Another issue, is that like most people have more than one tv in the house, why shouldn't we have more than one dvd player in the house? So it's very possible, that the "main" room and tv already has a standalone dvd player, but upstairs could be an old PS1 or similar for the kids which is due to be replaced. If they get a PS2, it will also play dvd's. Finally, DVD will be common place and as standard as CD very soon. DVD won't be something people think about getting special - it will just be a standard and expected media form.
The thing is dvd is the standard not an extra as GC fans would like you to believe.
To just say it is a useless extra is rubbish what do games such as Metal Gear, GTA come on dvd yes that is right the format for all games in the near future, not an expensive add on, but an essential part of next gen gaming.
To just say it is a useless extra is rubbish what do games such as Metal Gear, GTA come on dvd yes that is right the format for all games in the near future, not an expensive add on, but an essential part of next gen gaming.
Would you just shutup and stop annoying people. If you wanna start anymore of these annoying console wars topics then go find some other forums, people here aren't intrested in your crap.
Yeah, they're interested in our crap instead :-)
Techno freak wrote:
> an essential part of next gen gaming.
He was talking about dvds player. How right he is with out it i would never of been able to play mario and monkey ball.
If your gonna be like that GBA connection is of standard for people who likes gaming and its essential part of next gen gaming.
an essential part of next gen gaming is to have good games, i have a ps2 and only 1 games, that i cant get else where, has actually came close to being good is MGS2 and even that was as good as the first.
> an essential part of next gen gaming.
He was talking about dvds player. How right he is with out it i would never of been able to play mario and monkey ball.
If your gonna be like that GBA connection is of standard for people who likes gaming and its essential part of next gen gaming.
an essential part of next gen gaming is to have good games, i have a ps2 and only 1 games, that i cant get else where, has actually came close to being good is MGS2 and even that was as good as the first.
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