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Hi all,
Thought it would be nice to hear peoples thoughts on this years Formula One season, so decided to make a new thread for the topic.
Thought it would be nice to hear peoples thoughts on this years Formula One season, so decided to make a new thread for the topic.
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Dragonlance wrote:
pete_21 wrote:
[i]Anyway what the hell am I still doing on the F1 thread?!?
That remains to be seen .... turncoat ha ha :¬D[/i]
Ha ha,I'm hardly a turncoat DL all I really seem to have done is annoy most of the F1 fans on here even more than I usually do merely by attempting to understand their sport.The good news is that it only took a 10 minute highlights clip for me to totally get it.
1. If any driver tries to race anybody without using their super speedy wing power up or turbo boost button they will probably get a penalty if it doesn't go to plan.
2. No Red Bull driver may attempt to race another Red Bull driver if that driver is German and has a pretty much unassailable lead in the drivers championship.
3.The FIA can take bits off any cars at any point of the season unless Ferrari want to put them back on again in which case a massive U-turn will occur.
4. Even though F1 pit crews train to the highest level imaginable Vettel & Button would probably have been better off calling in at the local Kwik Fit on Sunday.
''The pinnacle of motorsport'',where do I sign up? :)
pete_21 wrote:
[i]Anyway what the hell am I still doing on the F1 thread?!?
That remains to be seen .... turncoat ha ha :¬D[/i]
Ha ha,I'm hardly a turncoat DL all I really seem to have done is annoy most of the F1 fans on here even more than I usually do merely by attempting to understand their sport.The good news is that it only took a 10 minute highlights clip for me to totally get it.
1. If any driver tries to race anybody without using their super speedy wing power up or turbo boost button they will probably get a penalty if it doesn't go to plan.
2. No Red Bull driver may attempt to race another Red Bull driver if that driver is German and has a pretty much unassailable lead in the drivers championship.
3.The FIA can take bits off any cars at any point of the season unless Ferrari want to put them back on again in which case a massive U-turn will occur.
4. Even though F1 pit crews train to the highest level imaginable Vettel & Button would probably have been better off calling in at the local Kwik Fit on Sunday.
''The pinnacle of motorsport'',where do I sign up? :)
pete_21 wrote:
Anyway what the hell am I still doing on the F1 thread?!?
That remains to be seen .... turncoat ha ha :¬D
Anyway what the hell am I still doing on the F1 thread?!?
That remains to be seen .... turncoat ha ha :¬D
Webber had no choice in the matter really when it comes down to it. If he attempted the overtake, he would have either taken 2nd and not made any difference in the driver's championship, or he would've taken both him and Vettel out and let the Ferraris take 2 podium places. All that was lost is a bit of personal pride on Webber's part. As I said, regardless of the orders, he wouldn't have gotten past Vettel anyway, so he has nothing to be annoyed about.
Sonic Chris wrote:
I find it acceptable in different circumstances. I agree if a driver is told not to over take their team mate in the last lap or two. Anything more than that (depending on the gap between the two drivers), there is no need for orders.
Doesn't look like Webber thought it was acceptable Chris.
I found this bit of the article interesting though :
''While F1 Communications saw fit to broadcast one order from the RBR pitwall, it later transpired that Webber had been told several times not to race Vettel, despite the fact that the German held a commanding 77-point advantage over the field going into the ninth round of the season''
Anyway what the hell am I still doing on the F1 thread?!?
I find it acceptable in different circumstances. I agree if a driver is told not to over take their team mate in the last lap or two. Anything more than that (depending on the gap between the two drivers), there is no need for orders.
Doesn't look like Webber thought it was acceptable Chris.
I found this bit of the article interesting though :
''While F1 Communications saw fit to broadcast one order from the RBR pitwall, it later transpired that Webber had been told several times not to race Vettel, despite the fact that the German held a commanding 77-point advantage over the field going into the ninth round of the season''
Anyway what the hell am I still doing on the F1 thread?!?
HiddenWingz wrote:
Sonic Chris wrote:
[i]The famous Ferrari orders are the ones that should be frowned upon; when it's blatent fixing.
2002 or 2010?[/i]
2010, when Massa was told that Alonso was faster. I was so annoyed at that. If Alonso was faster, he would have, and should have, had to get past Massa like everyone else had to.
Sonic Chris wrote:
[i]The famous Ferrari orders are the ones that should be frowned upon; when it's blatent fixing.
2002 or 2010?[/i]
2010, when Massa was told that Alonso was faster. I was so annoyed at that. If Alonso was faster, he would have, and should have, had to get past Massa like everyone else had to.
I find it acceptable in different circumstances. I agree if a driver is told not to over take their team mate in the last lap or two. Anything more than that (depending on the gap between the two drivers), there is no need for orders.
But at the end of the day, I don't care who wins the constructor's title, I only care about the driver's championships. The constructor's title is an absolute farce of who has the most money ultimately..
But at the end of the day, I don't care who wins the constructor's title, I only care about the driver's championships. The constructor's title is an absolute farce of who has the most money ultimately..
Sonic Chris wrote:
I totally agree with the decision, and for once in my life, that means I agree with Eddie Jordan (whom I have a massive hatred for).
Eddie Jordan would have to say that as I seem to remember him doing exactly the same thing as a team manager at Spa in the late 90's.I also seem to the recall Michael Schumacher (yes,Mr. selective memory!) being very critical of it as it was his little brother that was the driver told not to overtake in the closing stages of that race.Just find it a little bit wierd that some F1 fans find it acceptable TBH,especially as the season is only half done and the driver told not to race isn't nowhere in the championship he is second.Think Lewis Hamilton is alright though,at least that guy tries to race.
Still think I'll take DL's advice and stick to watching blokes in tight leather pants straddling throbbing vibrators! Team orders are actually banned in that sport BTW.
I totally agree with the decision, and for once in my life, that means I agree with Eddie Jordan (whom I have a massive hatred for).
Eddie Jordan would have to say that as I seem to remember him doing exactly the same thing as a team manager at Spa in the late 90's.I also seem to the recall Michael Schumacher (yes,Mr. selective memory!) being very critical of it as it was his little brother that was the driver told not to overtake in the closing stages of that race.Just find it a little bit wierd that some F1 fans find it acceptable TBH,especially as the season is only half done and the driver told not to race isn't nowhere in the championship he is second.Think Lewis Hamilton is alright though,at least that guy tries to race.
Still think I'll take DL's advice and stick to watching blokes in tight leather pants straddling throbbing vibrators! Team orders are actually banned in that sport BTW.
Dragonlance wrote:
Don't bother pete...waste of time and effort ....at least it's now being discussed where it should be .....
.... but perhaps I've missed the point again, Garin? :¬)
Now if only we can get those Soccer chatterboxes from discussing their sport on the general chat thread...
Don't bother pete...waste of time and effort ....at least it's now being discussed where it should be .....
.... but perhaps I've missed the point again, Garin? :¬)
Now if only we can get those Soccer chatterboxes from discussing their sport on the general chat thread...
Sonic Chris wrote:
The famous Ferrari orders are the ones that should be frowned upon; when it's blatent fixing.
2002 or 2010?
The famous Ferrari orders are the ones that should be frowned upon; when it's blatent fixing.
2002 or 2010?
At the end of the day, it was a risk Red Bull did not want to take. I will say in their defence that they would have looked ridiculously stupid had Webber taken Vettel out on the last few corners. And for argument's sake, Webber would not have caught Vettel anyway. Had Webber made the push 10 laps earlier, there wouldn't have been any team orders. As it is, it was too late in the race to risk the two colliding, what with both Hamilton and Massa battling it out behind them as well. Could have made a right mess. I totally agree with the decision, and for once in my life, that means I agree with Eddie Jordan (whom I have a massive hatred for).
The famous Ferrari orders are the ones that should be frowned upon; when it's blatent fixing.
The famous Ferrari orders are the ones that should be frowned upon; when it's blatent fixing.
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