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Thu 12/04/01 at 17:24
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So what makes a cult film a cult film?

Is it just because it gets a cult following like The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Or is there more to it than that?

Could A Clockwork Orange be called a cult film just because it had the notoriety of being banned for so long?

And are cult movies always just horror movies?

I'd put Star Wars down as having a cult following, but Star Trek the Movie I wouldn't because it was spawned from a TV series that had the initial fans raving about it.

So what 'defines' a cult movie? Popularity? Its fan base? Its notoriety?

Rocky Horror is a prime example of what a cult movie is, yet it is so hard to pinpoint exactly what makes it a cult movie in the first place. Was it just because it was so different to anything that had been done before? Was it the first horror movie to be filmed as a musical?

Are there any other movies that you would define as being cult movies? Rocky Horror is the only one I can think of offhand that has a recognisable cult following. But there must be other films that have similar types of fans. Can anyone think of any?
Sat 14/04/01 at 06:30
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and any film by Kevin Smith (Mall Rats, Clerks, Dogma etc...)
Fri 13/04/01 at 20:10
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The Taking of Pelham 1,2,3!!
Fri 13/04/01 at 20:04
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PULP FICTION
TAXI DRIVER
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Its really any classic, underappriciated film ever made...

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Fri 13/04/01 at 19:44
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Bill and Ted was swwweeett, or should I say excellent man
Fri 13/04/01 at 12:24
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Wayne's World definately is a cult movie, it's right up there with Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and Brasil.
Fri 13/04/01 at 12:23
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Would "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" be classed as a cult movie then?

What about "Waynes World"?, or "Austin Powers"?
Fri 13/04/01 at 02:10
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I looked into cult movies a little deeper, because my questions were bugging me. Some people say that a cult movie is defined not by its audience, but by the film including something a bit 'different' to the normal movie.

Examples quoted by one website included:

Hard Boiled
Hardware
Romper Stomper
Clueless
The Man with the X-ray Eyes
Maniac Cop
The Usual Suspects
Assault on Precinct 13
Quatermass
Natural Born Killers

plus many more black and white vampire flicks from the 40s and a lot of gangster movies from the 50s and 60s.

I picked the specific ones above, because I can relate to all of them in some way.

Hard Boiled (1993)(Original title: Lashou Shentan) I saw by accident once, I would never normally watch a subtitled film, but I didn't realise that this was subtitled when I rented it at the time. But then I watched it, and straight away I was hooked. It's directed by John Woo and stars Yun-Fat Chow as a cop trying to stop arms smuggling, and it's the most violent, action-paced, stunt-filled film I've ever seen. And the ending in the hospital is always a talking point if you ever meet anyone else who has seen this masterpiece of violent imagery. Fantastic, I rave about it even now, 6 years after I first saw it.

Hardware (1990) on the other hand, hailed for been the best film of it's genre since Ridley Scott's Alien back in 1979, is unique for its pathological cyborg character terrorising its victims, and in such a shocking way, so unexpected by the cinema goer at the time, that some scenes are still as fresh in my mind now as when I saw it for the first time, years ago (again). With Iggy Pop doing the narration and Lemmy from Motorhead playing a waterboat taxi driver in a post-apocalyptic world, it's a real treat to watch. And keep an eye out for all the religious references that centre around the Mark 13 Cyborg. This is one classy Sci-Fi film.

I could rave about all of the films above, all for different reasons, but I think you get the idea now.

So for me a cult movie is down to the individual's preferences. All of the above touched me in some way, I connected with the content, the themes, the storylines or the action, and I loved the films, I could watch all of the above over and over again without getting bored of them.

I'd have to add a few of my own, like The Matrix, Total Recall and so on, to my private list of cult movies. But essentially, after a little research, I think I've discovered what they finally are.

:-)
Thu 12/04/01 at 23:23
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Youve got me stumped, I suppose its a bit of all the above fan base, a strange film or different.

But then "Zulu" is a cult film, well at least in Wales it is!
Thu 12/04/01 at 17:24
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So what makes a cult film a cult film?

Is it just because it gets a cult following like The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Or is there more to it than that?

Could A Clockwork Orange be called a cult film just because it had the notoriety of being banned for so long?

And are cult movies always just horror movies?

I'd put Star Wars down as having a cult following, but Star Trek the Movie I wouldn't because it was spawned from a TV series that had the initial fans raving about it.

So what 'defines' a cult movie? Popularity? Its fan base? Its notoriety?

Rocky Horror is a prime example of what a cult movie is, yet it is so hard to pinpoint exactly what makes it a cult movie in the first place. Was it just because it was so different to anything that had been done before? Was it the first horror movie to be filmed as a musical?

Are there any other movies that you would define as being cult movies? Rocky Horror is the only one I can think of offhand that has a recognisable cult following. But there must be other films that have similar types of fans. Can anyone think of any?

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