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A few mixed emotions with Nintendo at the moment:
The Good:
A: Nintendo DS sells out in Europe, 500,000 consoles shipped!
B: PSP sales are down in Japan with new DS colours defeating them, PSP only selling half its shipment in America.
C: Resident Evil 4 charts at a respectible Number 5.
The Bad:
A: Worst march ever in America for Nintendo, hardware sales and software sales down. Due to stiff competiton.
B: Resident Evil 4 would have charted higher if Nintendo had decided to supply enough games. Selling out very quickly and then not renewing the demand! Dropped to number 19 in a week and then dropped out the charts, wouldn't have happened if Nintendo supplied the demand.
C: Exact same problem with the DS, Wario Ware Touched! STILL missing from most major retailers with Mario 64 DS just coming back into stock. DS is still selling out in places. Both a good AND bad thing.
So mixed emotions.
Oh and maybe, just maybe... I was right:
[URL]http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=35046&subsectionid=1587[/URL]
The Good:
A: Nintendo DS sells out in Europe, 500,000 consoles shipped!
B: PSP sales are down in Japan with new DS colours defeating them, PSP only selling half its shipment in America.
C: Resident Evil 4 charts at a respectible Number 5.
The Bad:
A: Worst march ever in America for Nintendo, hardware sales and software sales down. Due to stiff competiton.
B: Resident Evil 4 would have charted higher if Nintendo had decided to supply enough games. Selling out very quickly and then not renewing the demand! Dropped to number 19 in a week and then dropped out the charts, wouldn't have happened if Nintendo supplied the demand.
C: Exact same problem with the DS, Wario Ware Touched! STILL missing from most major retailers with Mario 64 DS just coming back into stock. DS is still selling out in places. Both a good AND bad thing.
So mixed emotions.
Oh and maybe, just maybe... I was right:
[URL]http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=35046&subsectionid=1587[/URL]
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Dringo wrote:
> And Icarus I simply don't believe you, I feel a company can release a
> product that doesn't match its normal demographic and sell to the new
> one. Just because you don't makes it a difference of opinion.
It's certainly not impossible, just highly unlikely. See the Xbox? Microsoft have had a great reputation in software; the console market was completely new, but they still managed to pull it off. But they literally forced it down people's throats with marketing power - power that Ninty don't have. Another words, people who are wary of change in the first place (which Nintendo want in order to appeal to this "new" audience) will need some persuading.
Of course, it doesn't help that the selling point that helped Xbox convince that audience (its power compared to other consoles) is not so as definite as Nintendo's - especially seeing as most of their "unique" features will be incorporated with the other consoles (camera, wi-fi).
And yeah, it's a difference of opinion... so what? Still just as valid, and likely.
>
> Nintendo can produce adult software and hardware and it will sell to
> adults. That's how I see it. They can change their appeal.
I'm trying hard to think of an example.
> And Icarus I simply don't believe you, I feel a company can release a
> product that doesn't match its normal demographic and sell to the new
> one. Just because you don't makes it a difference of opinion.
It's certainly not impossible, just highly unlikely. See the Xbox? Microsoft have had a great reputation in software; the console market was completely new, but they still managed to pull it off. But they literally forced it down people's throats with marketing power - power that Ninty don't have. Another words, people who are wary of change in the first place (which Nintendo want in order to appeal to this "new" audience) will need some persuading.
Of course, it doesn't help that the selling point that helped Xbox convince that audience (its power compared to other consoles) is not so as definite as Nintendo's - especially seeing as most of their "unique" features will be incorporated with the other consoles (camera, wi-fi).
And yeah, it's a difference of opinion... so what? Still just as valid, and likely.
>
> Nintendo can produce adult software and hardware and it will sell to
> adults. That's how I see it. They can change their appeal.
I'm trying hard to think of an example.
mattributé wrote:
> all your arguements?
Erm no, it is all hearsay and maybes.
> all your arguements?
Erm no, it is all hearsay and maybes.
all your arguements?
What's lost?
There was an argument? All I'm saying is that Nintendo can change their demographic.
Which they can.
They're more likely to make their products more appealing to adults whilst retaining the family element.
But hey, whatever they want.
There was an argument? All I'm saying is that Nintendo can change their demographic.
Which they can.
They're more likely to make their products more appealing to adults whilst retaining the family element.
But hey, whatever they want.
Dringo wrote:
> Wait and see.
When all is lost, go for something mystical that you'll never have to live up to.
> Wait and see.
When all is lost, go for something mystical that you'll never have to live up to.
Wait and see.
Dringo wrote:
> its normal demographic
Bringing out the big 'business' words doesn't really work Dringo.
Demographic my arsse.
> its normal demographic
Bringing out the big 'business' words doesn't really work Dringo.
Demographic my arsse.
Dringo wrote:
> Nintendo can produce adult software and hardware and it will sell to
> adults.
But there's never been any evidence of this. Nintendo don't make "adult" games, they make non age specific games and games for children. I don't see the point in changing their focus, and I really don't think that's what they're trying to do with either Revolution OR DS.
> Nintendo can produce adult software and hardware and it will sell to
> adults.
But there's never been any evidence of this. Nintendo don't make "adult" games, they make non age specific games and games for children. I don't see the point in changing their focus, and I really don't think that's what they're trying to do with either Revolution OR DS.
Dringo wrote:
>
> Nintendo can produce adult software and hardware and it will sell to
> adults. That's how I see it. They can change their appeal.
But to change focus would be futile. Nintendo still really own the market as far as kids are concerned. They have two very powerful opponents going for the adult market one who is admittedly in a small amount of trouble (until the PS3 earns them a hell of a lot) and another which has bottomless pockets with which to seize the market.
I like the exclusive adult titles on the cube but going for a completely different target would be very harmful to Nintendo - by tryingto please everybody they will end up pleasing no-one. Currently I would say that parents would trust the average content of a Nintendo game over any other - the more adult the push the less those parents are going to feel compelled to buy for the 'Nintendo difference'.
>
> Nintendo can produce adult software and hardware and it will sell to
> adults. That's how I see it. They can change their appeal.
But to change focus would be futile. Nintendo still really own the market as far as kids are concerned. They have two very powerful opponents going for the adult market one who is admittedly in a small amount of trouble (until the PS3 earns them a hell of a lot) and another which has bottomless pockets with which to seize the market.
I like the exclusive adult titles on the cube but going for a completely different target would be very harmful to Nintendo - by tryingto please everybody they will end up pleasing no-one. Currently I would say that parents would trust the average content of a Nintendo game over any other - the more adult the push the less those parents are going to feel compelled to buy for the 'Nintendo difference'.
Enlighten me.
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